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R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:39 PM Apr 2014

Donetsk leaflet: Jews must register or face deportation

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html

A leaflet distributed in Donetsk, Ukraine calling for all Jews over 16 years old to register as Jews marred the Jewish community's Passover festivities Monday (Passover eve), replacing them with feelings of concern.

The leaflet demanded the city's Jews supply a detailed list of all the property they own, or else have their citizenship revoked, face deportion and see their assets confiscated.

Donetsk, a Ukraine province with 4.3 million people - 10 percent of Ukraine's population - and 17,000 Jews, is home to much of the country's heavy industry, and is thus the biggest prize of the eastern regions where pro-Russian separatists have captured government buildings in the past week.

The leaflet, signed by Chairman of Donetsk's temporary government Denis Pushilin, was distrbiuted to Jews near the Donetsk synagogue and later in other areas of the city where pro-Russians activists have declared Donetsk as an independent "people's republic", defying an ultimatum from Kiev to surrender.

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Donetsk leaflet: Jews must register or face deportation (Original Post) R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 OP
wtf? What year is this? uppityperson Apr 2014 #1
Some things never go out of fashion jberryhill Apr 2014 #2
1934 apparently CFLDem Apr 2014 #3
Whatever year it is it always seems to be slipping backwards R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2014 #4
Is this not in the territory taken by Putin? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #5
Somebody's playing games, all right, but I'm not sure it's Moscow. Raksha Apr 2014 #11
And my child of the holocaust nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #12
WTH? maddezmom Apr 2014 #6
Yuo, same shit different century nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #7
Smells like a false-flag operation, a disinformation campaign Raksha Apr 2014 #8
Nah, this crap is alive and well in that region of the world. joshcryer Apr 2014 #13
WJC denounces ‘exaggerated accounts’ of Ukrainian anti-Semitism Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #17
pure Russian propaganda .... polly7 Apr 2014 #20
The Cossacks are never far. elleng Apr 2014 #9
So--have the alleged Nazis in Kiev moved to Donetsk? amandabeech Apr 2014 #10
And so it begins. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #14
This horrifies me!!! janlyn Apr 2014 #15
It may be important to get the Jewish people of the Ukraine out. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #16
Very true but, janlyn Apr 2014 #18
I think the history is too recent for most to not see the dangers. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #19
I hope you are correct! janlyn Apr 2014 #21
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Is this not in the territory taken by Putin?
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:46 PM
Apr 2014

I mean, Moscow is playing games here folks.

And yes, same shit different century

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
11. Somebody's playing games, all right, but I'm not sure it's Moscow.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 07:13 PM
Apr 2014

From the Ynet article: Jenia from Israel, who also received the letter from a Jewish acquaintance, said "the Jews in Donetsk are uncertain of anything; it is unclear who is responsible for the leaflet and who controls the city at the moment.

"We don't feel safe like we used to because of the political instability in the area; there isn't a legitimate president or sovereign. Currently Donetsk is ruled by a junta."


It was my own knee-jerk reaction of fear and anger that clued me in that it's very likely we're being played here.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Yuo, same shit different century
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:48 PM
Apr 2014
"In case of failure to register, the perpetrators will be stripped of their citizenship and deported forcibly outside the country with confiscation of property."


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donetsk-pro-russians-order-jews-register-be-deported-supporting-kiev-rule-1445111

I will wait here for the defenders of this shit to show up

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
8. Smells like a false-flag operation, a disinformation campaign
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:53 PM
Apr 2014

clearly intended to spread panic in the Jewish community. I suspect the ploy will fall flat on its face--too damn obvious.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
17. WJC denounces ‘exaggerated accounts’ of Ukrainian anti-Semitism
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:03 PM
Apr 2014
n a resolution, the WJC expressed its concerns over the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in the government that replaced Russian backed president Viktor Yanukovich in late February.

While the text of the resolution urged “all parties to ensure that anti-Semitic and anti-minority incitement is not tolerated,” it also expressed the concerns of several Ukrainian Jewish leaders regarding what they believe is the politicization of anti-Semitism for ulterior motives.

In explaining his invasion of Crimea, Russian President Vladimir Putin branded Ukraine’s new authorities as fascists backed by anti-Jewish militants.

During a press conference in Moscow on March 3, Putin warned against the “rampage of reactionary forces, nationalist and anti-Semitic forces going on in certain parts of Ukraine, including Kiev.”


In a resolution, the WJC expressed its concerns over the inclusion of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party in the government that replaced Russian backed president Viktor Yanukovich in late February.

While the text of the resolution urged “all parties to ensure that anti-Semitic and anti-minority incitement is not tolerated,” it also expressed the concerns of several Ukrainian Jewish leaders regarding what they believe is the politicization of anti-Semitism for ulterior motives.

In explaining his invasion of Crimea, Russian President Vladimir Putin branded Ukraine’s new authorities as fascists backed by anti-Jewish militants.

During a press conference in Moscow on March 3, Putin warned against the “rampage of reactionary forces, nationalist and anti-Semitic forces going on in certain parts of Ukraine, including Kiev.”


http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/WJC-denounces-exaggerated-accounts-of-Ukrainian-anti-Semitism-347185

polly7

(20,582 posts)
20. pure Russian propaganda ....
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:19 PM
Apr 2014


On Tuesday, Andriy Parubiy, head of the Ukrainian National Security Council, went on Twitter to declare, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.” Parubiy was referring to the neo-Nazi militias that provided the organized muscle that overthrew Yanukovych, forcing him to flee for his life. Some of these militias have since been incorporated into security forces as “National Guard.”

Parubiy himself is a well-known neo-Nazi, who founded the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991. The party blended radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Parubiy also formed a paramilitary spinoff, the Patriots of Ukraine, and defended the awarding of the title, “Hero of Ukraine,” to World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, whose own paramilitary forces exterminated thousands of Jews and Poles in pursuit of a racially pure Ukraine.

During the months of protests aimed at overthrowing Yanukovych, Parubiy became the commandant of “Euromaidan,” the name for the Kiev uprising, and – after the Feb. 22 coup – Parubiy was one of four far-right Ukrainian nationalists given control of a ministry, i.e. national security.

But the U.S. press has played down his role because his neo-Nazism conflicts with Official Washington’s narrative that the neo-Nazis played little or no role in the “revolution.” References to neo-Nazis in the “interim government” are dismissed as “Russian propaganda
.”

- Robert Parry http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/04/16-6
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
10. So--have the alleged Nazis in Kiev moved to Donetsk?
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:54 PM
Apr 2014

Where are the fascists in Ukraine? Where are the Nazis in Ukraine?

Anyone recall any post about the interim government in Kiev demanding that all Jews register?

Ghastly!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
14. And so it begins.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:49 PM
Apr 2014

Putin Putin Putin.

And people in the US hold this tyrant up as some model of leadership?

janlyn

(735 posts)
15. This horrifies me!!!
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:58 PM
Apr 2014

How could it not horrify anyone?

It wasn't but one generation ago that great atrocities were committed. And anyone who doesn't believe it could easily happen again are fools.
This is the type of bigotry that forced my great-grandmother to pretend to be christian in public and practice her faith in secret! A fear so overwhelming that to protect your children you would denounce anything if it made you safe!
I don't cry easily at all but, I am fighting back tears at the thought that this could happen again!!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. It may be important to get the Jewish people of the Ukraine out.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:00 PM
Apr 2014

And that means from the entire Ukraine. There are too many anti-semites in that part of the world and I don't think it matters much where in the Ukraine they are.

janlyn

(735 posts)
18. Very true but,
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:12 PM
Apr 2014

will they be willing to leave? My mother told me that no one wanted to believe that things would get as bad as they did. And that those that believed that it would and chose to leave while they still could were ridiculed by their neighbors for jumping at shadows.
And for most it would mean giving up their entire lives as they know them to leave.
So, most will not. Just like some who refuse to leave before a hurricane, hoping that it will not hit them.
I can understand why my Mum always said hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
19. I think the history is too recent for most to not see the dangers.
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:13 PM
Apr 2014

People know what can happen now. It's burned into our collective memories.

janlyn

(735 posts)
21. I hope you are correct!
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 10:21 PM
Apr 2014

But it wasn't as if history didn't show had bad it could be even before WWII. I will hope that it is as you say, and that it is still fresh in their minds!
Maybe given the fact that anti-semitism has never been hidden in that part of the world, they will heed the warnings!!

Please let it be so!

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