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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:07 AM Apr 2014

Gov. Fallin does it again: Oklahoma Will Charge Customers Who Install Their Own Solar Panels

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/04/16/3427392/oklahoma-fee-solar-wind/


Oklahoma residents who produce their own energy through solar panels or small wind turbines on their property will now be charged an additional fee, the result of a new bill passed by the state legislature and expected to be signed into law by Gov. Mary Fallin (R).

On Monday, S.B. 1456 passed the state House 83-5 after no debate. The measure creates a new class of customers: those who install distributed power generation systems like solar panels or small wind turbines on their property and sell the excess energy back to the grid. While those with systems already installed won’t be affected, the new class of customers will now be charged a monthly fee — a shift that happened quickly and caught many in the state off guard.

“We knew nothing about it and all of a sudden it’s attached to some other bill,” Ctaci Gary, owner of Sun City Oklahoma, told ThinkProgress. “It just appeared out of nowhere.”

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Gov. Fallin does it again: Oklahoma Will Charge Customers Who Install Their Own Solar Panels (Original Post) diabeticman Apr 2014 OP
Ah, those small government Republicans are at it again LittleBlue Apr 2014 #1
This is pretty standard throughout the industry, and for good reason. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #2
excellent response, but a question: are they not already paying for this? nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #3
I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been a move to make it so SheilaT Apr 2014 #4
this bullshit is being actively pushed by ALEC. Javaman Apr 2014 #5
 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
1. Ah, those small government Republicans are at it again
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:10 AM
Apr 2014

And right after they got (literally) up in arms over grazing fees.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. This is pretty standard throughout the industry, and for good reason.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 12:17 AM
Apr 2014

There are three types of solar photovoltaic systems an owner might own (and more types if you include leases or power purchase agreements).

One: You own the system and are off the grid. You better invest in some energy storage scheme for night time and stormy days.

Two: You own the system and it's tied to the grid with net-metering.

Three: you won the system, tied to the grid, and you can sell excess production back to the utility.


In Two and Three, you are tied to the utility, whether it's a shared entity, or municipality, or investor-owned, it provides a valuable service and infrastructure to you. It's there if your power goes down, it's there at night, and in the case of number three, you have a means of selling excess power.

It seems absolutely reasonable that one pays for the services and security provided by being tied to a dependable grid.


I don't know why people are surprised by having to pay for a valuable service that essentially makes their solar installation work 24/7 and gives them a market to sell excess power.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. I'm actually surprised that there hasn't been a move to make it so
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:37 AM
Apr 2014

property owners do not own the solar rights on their property. In the west, it is very common for property owners not to own the mineral rights below the surface. I suspect it's just a matter of time before the solar rights thing happens.

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