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Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:19 AM Mar 2012

Is Al Franken still alive?

When Al Franken made it to the senate, I thought we were going to hear another outspoken liberal voice join those of Alan Grayson and Barney Frank.

However, the silence from Franken has been deafening.

What happened to his wit, humor, outrage and willingness to loudly label insanity as insanity? He's become just one more gray man in the background. What a disappointment.


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Is Al Franken still alive? (Original Post) Cyrano Mar 2012 OP
I receive emails from him -- he's still fighting the good fight. gateley Mar 2012 #1
Yup still fighting the good fight madokie Mar 2012 #23
I think that "the system" just grinds them all into submission. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #2
Al has been a first class senator and but he has chosen to stay out of the public eye Botany Mar 2012 #3
Good question izquierdista Mar 2012 #4
You haven't been paying attention Ian David Mar 2012 #5
Seriously, Al is awesome jsmirman Mar 2012 #7
I'm not talking about his positions or his votes in the senate Cyrano Mar 2012 #8
I respectfully disagree MrBig Mar 2012 #14
Republican craziness is to be highly valued JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #17
He is always working for us, but the roomful of flatulent, demented clowns..... virtualobserver Mar 2012 #6
keep in mind also oldhippydude Mar 2012 #9
Alan Grayson pulled it off in his first term in the House Cyrano Mar 2012 #10
first of all the senate is a whole lot different than the house oldhippydude Mar 2012 #26
If anybody spends a few hours watching the Senate on CSpan, you'll quickly realize the .... dmosh42 Mar 2012 #11
Franken made a career out of ridiculing hypocrites, bs artists and Republican thugs. Cyrano Mar 2012 #12
A Google News search on Franken MineralMan Mar 2012 #13
Please see post #12 above, Mineral Man. I'm sure that Cyrano Mar 2012 #15
Well, he's the Senator. MineralMan Mar 2012 #16
He's doing his job and doing it well and not spending hours entertaining you. WI_DEM Mar 2012 #18
Alan Grayson and Barney Frank never spent "hours entertaining" me. Cyrano Mar 2012 #19
My Guess Is That He's Trying To Lose His Comedian Moniker.... global1 Mar 2012 #20
It's Been 3 Years otohara Mar 2012 #22
The Not The 60th Vote Guy otohara Mar 2012 #21
He hasn't been tweeting much. YellowRubberDuckie Mar 2012 #24
Franken was 1 of only 14 Senators that DID NOT vote for the 2012 NDAA think Mar 2012 #25

gateley

(62,683 posts)
1. I receive emails from him -- he's still fighting the good fight.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:23 AM
Mar 2012

I'd love to see more of him, too, but just knowing he's there is reassuring, IMO.



madokie

(51,076 posts)
23. Yup still fighting the good fight
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:39 AM
Mar 2012

The most effective pol is the ones who aren't in the news every day rather its those who goes about the Peoples business getting things done. Senator Franken is one of those. Hell I wish I could be so lucky to have a Senator half as good as he is.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
2. I think that "the system" just grinds them all into submission.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:23 AM
Mar 2012

The firebrands that manage to avoid the grinder wind up doing stupid-ass shit like sending pics of their penis from their phone...


Our whole political system is based on fear: fear that any action might be purposefully misconstrued by the opposition (and it will) thus decreasing the political leverage. Our politics are solidly based on power and fear, and the only winners in that game are the politicians.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
4. Good question
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:24 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think Al is any different, but he's been fed into the system, one that chews up input and mashes it into a smooth paste that it can feed into molds that all look the same.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
7. Seriously, Al is awesome
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:31 AM
Mar 2012

he actually stands up for the progressive positions he championed when he initially ran and he is a consistent and active supporter of other progressive politicians' (like Elizabeth Warren) campaigns for Senate and House seats.

Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
8. I'm not talking about his positions or his votes in the senate
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:37 AM
Mar 2012

What's needed is his voice, publicly and loudly firing back at the tons of Republican craziness thrown at us every minute of every day. Al knows how to do it. But he's not doing it.

MrBig

(640 posts)
14. I respectfully disagree
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012

His vote is more important than his voice. If he is keeping a lower profile for political reasons, I think that's probably in everyones best interest.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,372 posts)
17. Republican craziness is to be highly valued
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:11 AM
Mar 2012

the crazier, the better, come November.

Al has not been wading into the rhetorical storm surrounding a case before the Supreme Court, and the justices would probably not be swayed by his opinion.

Al has not waded into the tsunami of invective surrounding a case in Orange County, FL, and I don't know that his one voice would make a difference in the outcome there, either.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
6. He is always working for us, but the roomful of flatulent, demented clowns.....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:30 AM
Mar 2012

running for President are filling the room with methane and are quite distracting to the eye.

Do a google news seach on him and you will see the important things that he is focused on.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
9. keep in mind also
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:38 AM
Mar 2012

the new guys dont have a hell of a lot juice with the committees etc. that make teh Senate work.. new guys disappear for thier first term.. he's there just not highly visable

Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
10. Alan Grayson pulled it off in his first term in the House
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:42 AM
Mar 2012

No one is going to make Al visible but Al.

On edit: Grayson's outspokeness cost him his House seat. Is Franken worried about reelection already? Just asking.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
26. first of all the senate is a whole lot different than the house
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:20 PM
Mar 2012

and yes Alan Greyson raised a lot of hell... but im not sure he accomplished much more,and i really sincerly hope he takes the seat back, along with us retaking the house..

my point was simply that senate seniority means that junior senators dont have much influence.. and i do recall that Senator Franken was one of the few that stood up to the big players like comcast, last winter..

dmosh42

(2,217 posts)
11. If anybody spends a few hours watching the Senate on CSpan, you'll quickly realize the ....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:46 AM
Mar 2012

futility of getting anything done. This is like the House of Lords, controlled by mostly millionaires doing it for themselves, and stealing what they can while a member. Completely useless!

Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
12. Franken made a career out of ridiculing hypocrites, bs artists and Republican thugs.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:57 AM
Mar 2012

That's the side of him that's needed today more than ever.

MineralMan

(146,337 posts)
13. A Google News search on Franken
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:59 AM
Mar 2012

displays lots of results. Maybe you're just not seeing them. Here in Minnesota, we hear about what he's doing frequently.

Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
15. Please see post #12 above, Mineral Man. I'm sure that
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012

Franken is doing a good job with his senate votes and bills he cosponsors. But given his unique talents, he's capable of so much more than just the day-to-day work of the senate.

MineralMan

(146,337 posts)
16. Well, he's the Senator.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:09 AM
Mar 2012

I suppose he's doing his job in the way he thinks will produce the best results. Being a Senator is a big responsibility. Maybe he's taking a different approach than he did as a satirist. I'm mostly interested in results, really.

Cyrano

(15,071 posts)
19. Alan Grayson and Barney Frank never spent "hours entertaining" me.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:16 AM
Mar 2012

They were willing to speak out about the insanity of today's GOP.

global1

(25,284 posts)
20. My Guess Is That He's Trying To Lose His Comedian Moniker....
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:29 AM
Mar 2012

I think he is conscious of the fact that if he was more outspoken in his first term as a Senator that the Repugs and MSM would jump all over him and label him as "former comedian" or worse yet as "comedian".

I think he is trying to keep a low profile. Learn the ropes of how the system works during his first term. I think he is trying his best to represent the people that elected him and make them proud of him so he can be re-elected.

I'm thinking that if and when re-elected he will then have established himself as a serious Senator and will then feel comfortable to be more vocal and outfront with his views.

For godsakes - give the guy a break. If you listened to Al on his progressive radio show and all the while he was running for his seat - you should know that he took his getting elected as real serious and I think he is now using this first term to shake the "comedian; former progressive radio host" moniker and become known as a "respected Senator".

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
22. It's Been 3 Years
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:32 AM
Mar 2012

enough with the excuses.

No more breaks - it's time to step up and speak (say anything)

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
21. The Not The 60th Vote Guy
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

his mostly silence is deafening.

I was hoping for more from Al - what a waste.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
25. Franken was 1 of only 14 Senators that DID NOT vote for the 2012 NDAA
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 12:16 PM
Mar 2012

I am thankful Senator Franken is there and voting his conscience.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2011/s230

Here is senator Franken speaking frankly on the NDAA just one month ago:





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