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kpete

(72,024 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:23 AM Mar 2012

Reminder: No One Disputes the Legality of Single Payer

Reminder: No One Disputes the Legality of Single Payer
By: Jon Walker Tuesday March 27, 2012 1:09 pm


With the Supreme Court arguing the legality of the Affordable Care Act, it is a good time to remember that almost nobody disputes that single payer, such as Medicare for All, would be undoubtedly constitutional. Even Michael Carvin, one of the lead lawyers arguing (for the non-state private opponents) that the individual mandate is unconstitutional admitted today that single payer would be clearly legal.

From the Supreme Court transcript:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/11-398-Tuesday.pdf

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: So the — I — I want to understand the choices you’re saying Congress has. Congress can tax everybody and set up a public health care system.

MR. CARVIN: Yes.

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: That would be okay?

MR. CARVIN: Yes. Tax power is -

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR: Okay.

MR. CARVIN: I would accept that.


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Reminder: No One Disputes the Legality of Single Payer (Original Post) kpete Mar 2012 OP
If the S. Court votes against the current (Republican) approach... polichick Mar 2012 #1
Republicans don't care about what's legal. SpencerShay Mar 2012 #2

polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. If the S. Court votes against the current (Republican) approach...
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:27 AM
Mar 2012

...Dems should be able to make the case that single payer is the answer - IF they hire a decent messenging expert and everybody repeats the clear, concise argument in the coming months.

 

SpencerShay

(72 posts)
2. Republicans don't care about what's legal.
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 10:56 AM
Mar 2012

The republicans don’t give a crap about what is legal. The republicans would still run to the supreme court, and have the radical right-wing supreme court strike down a single-payer healthcare law, too. Republicans don’t want to hurt the insurance companies, so I find it hard to believe republicans would just sit back and not challenge the law. Plus, the republicans are just assholes. If a single-payer healthcare law was passed, the same lies about “government takeovers,” and “death panels,” would start all over, again. The republicans would make up reasons (lies) for why single-payer healthcare is unconstitutional.

Even though people don’t like the current law, it is constitutional. The supreme court’s decision will be political. And if the current law is struck down, it won’t “open the door” for single-payer healthcare. At least, not any time soon. If the current healthcare law is struck down, we will have to wait decades again, before anybody tries to do anything about the country’s crappy healthcare system. And, a right-wing congress that is brought and paid for by insurance companies is not going to pass a single-payer healthcare law. They didn’t even want to pass the current republican healthcare law. Stop being so naïve.

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