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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:30 PM Apr 2014

I attended a Condoleeza Rice speech tonight and I made sure to dress for the occassion

Tonight I went to attend a speech on the civil rights struggle in America, ironically that speech was delivered by a woman who is directly responsible for some of the worst civil rights abuses in American history. Condoleeza Rice was paid $150,000 to give a short speech pretending that she was a civil rights leader so a few friends and I decided that we needed to have people in the crowd to remind people of the civil rights violations that Condoleeza and the Bush Administration are responsible for.

That is why we decided to attend Condoleeza's speech wearing orange jumpsuits and black hoods. There was no photography allowed in the auditorium, but we managed to sneak in an opportunity to snap a somewhat blurry picture.



I thought I would probably be kicked out of the auditorium before I even made it to my seat, but security gave us a brief warning at the door that they would not tolerate disruptions and then let us move towards our seat. We did get stopped by another security officer who said we could not wear our hoods because of post 9/11 security policies and they told us if we covered our face we would get kicked out. We removed our hoods until we made it to our seats, but then we put them back on and security did not ever confront us about it again.

When Condoleeza Rice took the stage we stood up and turned our backs to her while others were applauding, we then sat down to listen to her try to pretend she is a liberal. While she did open up her speech with a major lie in which she claimed the 9/11 hijackers were from Afghanistan when in reality they were actually from Saudi Arabia, I shook my head in disgust. She quickly moved away from foreign policy however, in fact I don't think the word "Iraq" even escaped her lips, no instead she spoke about civil rights and education. She talked about growing up as a black girl in the South and addressed the issue of racism. There was actually not much to disagree with her on in this area, she was saying some things that actually sounded fairly progressive and if people did not know her real record they probably would have been very moved by her speech.

She did not talk about all the children who were killed by the bombs that were dropped on Iraq, she did not talk about the people her administration tortured, she did briefly mention the Black Sites but tried to pretend that she never supported them, she ignored the numerous civil rights violations of the administration she worked for and instead tried to portray herself as a civil rights activist rather than a civil rights violator.

Condi is a very good speaker that can make herself look really well on stage, but she is also a huge fraud that tries to pretend she is a much better person than she actually is. This speech was clearly intended to make her look a lot more moderate, it convinced me that she wants to seek political office in the future because she was clearly making an effort to move towards the center and even reach out to liberals. She is a very dangerous person and I hope that if she does run for office people remember her real record, she is no civil rights leader, she is a war criminal.

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I attended a Condoleeza Rice speech tonight and I made sure to dress for the occassion (Original Post) Bjorn Against Apr 2014 OP
Well done! csziggy Apr 2014 #1
Thinking Blood-Stained or Judges Wig billhicks76 Apr 2014 #125
she called the mayor of sf - willie brown - on 9/11 hopemountain Apr 2014 #129
No Way!!!!!!! billhicks76 Apr 2014 #135
Unconfirmed billhicks76 Apr 2014 #136
i doubt we will find confirmation it was condi hopemountain Apr 2014 #137
I Know She Lied About 911 billhicks76 Apr 2014 #138
MADE MY DAY! thank you! Rockyj Apr 2014 #130
Excellent. MuseRider Apr 2014 #2
K&R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2014 #3
Good for you. This is what should greet Condi Rice everywhere she goes. quinnox Apr 2014 #4
that is a great clip! When was it ? Nobel_Twaddle_III Apr 2014 #49
Besides dr. Rice, small d intended heaven05 Apr 2014 #78
WTF? I don't follow you. Major sarcasm? maddiemom Apr 2014 #85
my opinion about american lawyers, period heaven05 Apr 2014 #88
Oh, OK. Sounded like you were referring to Rice, not the "woman speaking up." maddiemom Apr 2014 #92
ten four heaven05 Apr 2014 #95
Good. As an English teacher, I would have been giving you a hard time in class. maddiemom Apr 2014 #122
I guess we lawyers ought to all be lynched too since you know us so well! Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #101
I didn't say all that about the other races and cultures heaven05 Apr 2014 #103
I think you missed my point. You are generalizing about lawyers like racists generalize about Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #108
ohh, bad morning heaven05 Apr 2014 #120
I try. Sorry to hear of your home. Our firm is just starting to take foreclosure cases against Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #126
yep future lawyers in the same frame as John Yoo Supersedeas Apr 2014 #87
+1000 heaven05 Apr 2014 #89
It bothers me... Mike Nelson Apr 2014 #104
Yes, it's surprising and upsetting, but also telling as to how San Francisco has changed. closeupready Apr 2014 #119
Wow. That's powerful. Thank you for posting it. closeupready Apr 2014 #117
Perfect! 1000words Apr 2014 #5
Thank you so much for doing this. I admire you so much and all the others, Code Pink et al who will sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #6
The only questions she was asked came from the moderators Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #7
Coward, as always, she doesn't dare allow the public to question her. I was going to ask who paid sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #40
I think she is hoping to be picked for VP Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #48
I agree. I feel certain she has been discussed as a possible VP. The Repubs have been trying sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #55
I have considered the same possibility. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #60
She would probably have to arm wrestle with Oklahoma avebury Apr 2014 #64
And if she were criticized by the left, pangaia Apr 2014 #65
Thank you for your powerful statement. Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #8
Sure go ahead... Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #10
awww, thank you! Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #12
I thought I heard the charges against them had been dropped, sounds like more help may be needed Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #16
The circuit court judges Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #19
Well tell your friends they are doing great work Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #22
furthermore, Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #20
That is shameful, the harassment of protesters in this so-called democracy. sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #28
Virtually no coverage in the press Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #33
That is an awesome protest idea, I wish it had gotten more attention Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #34
As is yours!!! Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #38
You are free to hijack my threads with info on what is happening in Wisconsin at any time Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #46
Ok, well, maybe just one more post Lefta Dissenter Apr 2014 #50
That's a shame. People do need to be made aware of the egregious violation of rights sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #37
Ok yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #127
Protesters do vote, it was the protesters who made the recall happen Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #128
And she always will be... daleanime Apr 2014 #9
good one ! It would be hard for me to act civilized in her Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2014 #11
It was at the University of Minnesota Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #13
You just won the internet tonight oneofthe99 Apr 2014 #14
this^ OffWithTheirHeads Apr 2014 #23
Well done! JohnnyRingo Apr 2014 #15
Brilliant! nt SunSeeker Apr 2014 #17
They are all crawling out of their holes hibbing Apr 2014 #18
+1 eom LittleGirl Apr 2014 #83
Thank y'all immensely for doing this and for sharing. johnnyreb Apr 2014 #21
Bravo to you all BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #24
Excellent and well done gratuitous Apr 2014 #25
Excellent point. That would make a good campaign slogan against Corporate funded candidates! sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #29
Bravo! (nt) stone space Apr 2014 #26
It looks like you made it onto the Star Tribune website as well... Eyerish Apr 2014 #27
"We kept the nation safe." Except for that 9-11 thing that happened under your watch. bulloney Apr 2014 #63
egotism aside Riftaxe Apr 2014 #30
Most of the speech was pure fluff Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #31
Wish i coudl watch the civil rights part Riftaxe Apr 2014 #36
I am not sure if they are going to release a video or not Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #43
I recommended this OP. NYC_SKP Apr 2014 #32
The neo-cons are trying to resurrect themselves. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #35
I wouldn't be surprised if they have considered her as a VP candidate. And I wouldn't be surprised sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #42
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #39
Thank you for doing, what the entire country should be doing, when a war criminal appears. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #41
Yes, we should all be doing this. They should never be able to go out in public without being met by sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #44
Proud to be 75th rec Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2014 #45
What an awesome, courageous statement! Little_Wing Apr 2014 #47
, blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #51
you rock! frylock Apr 2014 #52
She sure does! mimi85 Apr 2014 #57
Bravo montanacowboy Apr 2014 #53
And now she's on the board of Dropbox progressoid Apr 2014 #54
Was the venue full? I see empty seats in that picture--was that before the place filled up or did MADem Apr 2014 #56
The auditorium was technically sold out, but there were lots of empty seats Bjorn Against Apr 2014 #67
Well, one more time--hats off to you. You walked the walk; well done~! MADem Apr 2014 #75
Good one. Remember this? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #58
Good job! oldandhappy Apr 2014 #59
Thank you !!!! SamKnause Apr 2014 #61
Kindasleezie Rice has more blood on her hands than most people have in their body madokie Apr 2014 #62
great work! pitchforx Apr 2014 #66
I have better mylye2222 Apr 2014 #73
What!!! $150,000!! dicksmc3 Apr 2014 #68
GOOD JOB!!!! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #69
This woman as well as Cheney and co. mylye2222 Apr 2014 #70
Thank you, a hundred times over..truly, I am grateful for what you did. Rice is a disgrace. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2014 #71
Awesome underpants Apr 2014 #72
Very good! yallerdawg Apr 2014 #74
A powerful statement that took guts to carry out. Squinch Apr 2014 #76
the hypocracy and lies heaven05 Apr 2014 #77
She really shouldn't be speaking in front of decent people. She should stick... Walk away Apr 2014 #79
K & R cate94 Apr 2014 #80
Conservatives are progressive when they personally have been victims. spooky3 Apr 2014 #81
Who pays her speaking fees? sulphurdunn Apr 2014 #82
Good for you! Condi a poster woman for civil rights? Angela Davis is still around, maddiemom Apr 2014 #84
Well done... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #86
Well done! randome Apr 2014 #90
Future plans are to go out in to the World and start another Iraq-like war for fuel energy. DhhD Apr 2014 #91
I ran into her recently at Stanford University judy Apr 2014 #93
Thank you. nt Zorra Apr 2014 #94
Thank You! Recommend. KoKo Apr 2014 #96
In all the appearances on television that i've seen of her.... George II Apr 2014 #97
thank you for doing this for all of us. niyad Apr 2014 #98
Well done. Warmongers should not sleep peacefully. Orsino Apr 2014 #99
Excellent. AzDar Apr 2014 #100
Fuck yeah! tabasco Apr 2014 #102
Thank you for your protest... Mike Nelson Apr 2014 #105
Amazing!! CherokeeDem Apr 2014 #106
Kudos to you! nt raccoon Apr 2014 #107
K & R ctsnowman Apr 2014 #109
K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #110
Well done! postulater Apr 2014 #111
I admire you so much for doing this. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2014 #112
Bravo! She was one of Bush's best asset's in accomplishing crimes and harun Apr 2014 #113
You rock! lunatica Apr 2014 #114
Good, I applaud you for your righteous (and civil) act of protest. closeupready Apr 2014 #115
I applaud you for protesting without disrupting. While many here encourage that, I dont. 7962 Apr 2014 #116
Kick! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #118
Thank you for this. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #121
I look up to you. onethatcares Apr 2014 #123
Thank you for doing this. glinda Apr 2014 #124
Thank you. myrna minx Apr 2014 #131
When a barf bag is not enough. L0oniX Apr 2014 #132
Thanks for standing up to flamingdem Apr 2014 #133
Wonderful protest! dflprincess Apr 2014 #134
Thank you! n/t Catherina Apr 2014 #139
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
125. Thinking Blood-Stained or Judges Wig
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:45 PM
Apr 2014

Because she refused to testify under oath about 911 and lied that they couldn't envision planes being used as bombs. CNN reported in 2000 that the US requested anti-aircraft artillery around the entire island of Genoa for the G8 meeting fearing planes being used as kamikaze weapons to kill leaders. I remember hearing the report myself but it is conveniently scrubbed from the collective memory due to lying criminals like Condi Rice. Horrid indeed.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
129. she called the mayor of sf - willie brown - on 9/11
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:46 PM
Apr 2014

to warn him not to get on the flight he was supposed to board to get to ny. i heard willie brown make this statement on the radio the day after 9/11.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
135. No Way!!!!!!!
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 02:41 AM
Apr 2014

I heard he got a warning call but I didn't know it was from Condi!! This is a bombshell. How could she not have been pressed relentlessly about this and how do the lemming apologists not go after her for lying to Congress. They KNEW. It's not that hard to fathom.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
137. i doubt we will find confirmation it was condi
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 07:29 PM
Apr 2014

after everything that has happened - but, i do remember what i heard and i stand by my statement.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
138. I Know She Lied About 911
Sat Apr 19, 2014, 09:45 PM
Apr 2014

I hold her personally responsible for those 3000 death. Where the hell are all the hypocrite conservatives who whine that 4 people got killed in Benghazi? These racist twits just hate Obama. They are barely even real Americans. They should've put Condi, Bush and Cheney in jail for life. They still can.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
78. Besides dr. Rice, small d intended
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:09 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:34 AM - Edit history (1)

the people in the audience shouting at this brave person are pretty disgusting themselves. Future lawyers huh? Well it figures. Most sell their souls for money, power and status everyday. Not all mind you, but most. Bravo to this woman who spoke up against dr.Rice.! Bravo!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
88. my opinion about american lawyers, period
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:10 AM
Apr 2014

the woman referenced that this speech venue was an audience of future lawyers. All the people shouting at this woman to "get the hell out", "shut the hell up", "get out", are, I presume, future lawyers and republicans. The video is a perfect example of what these future lawyers are going to be..... That's WTF! No sarcasm. The woman speaking up against dr. Rice is brave, the people shouting at her are not. Small d intended by me and not retracted.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
101. I guess we lawyers ought to all be lynched too since you know us so well!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

I would hazard a guess that I have known a few more lawyers than you. You probably think all blacks are lazy, Asians are bad drivers... Are there bad lawyers, sure. Are there bad doctors, plumbers, accountants, carpenters.... We are people too (contrary to what individuals like yourself believe)!
I despise Bush & Co., and do believe his inner circle should be tried for war crimes, including Rice, but don't go lumping "most" lawyers in that group, you don't know what you are talking about!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
103. I didn't say all that about the other races and cultures
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:11 PM
Apr 2014

YOU DID, lawyer. Well as far as lawyers being people also, some are or some end up in Bushco. My personal experience with lawyers is negative. Lawyers are money grubbing snakes, for the most part, and will sell their soul for the right price.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
108. I think you missed my point. You are generalizing about lawyers like racists generalize about
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:37 PM
Apr 2014

all of the blacks... So you had some bad experiences with a few lawyers and so it's fair to equate them to most lawyers. I am here to tell you it is not fair. I am sorry that you had a bad experience, but that doesn't make it right to denigrate us all. For all you know, that brave woman who stood up and called Rice a War Criminal was a student at that law school. Knowing law students like I do, Rice's appearance had to be very controversial among the students, probably breaking along Party lines, just like the rest of America!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
120. ohh, bad morning
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:09 PM
Apr 2014

you are correct. I still like that woman that spoke up against dr. Rice. If she becomes a lawyer I have some faith she will have integrity. That she will be a firebrand for some humane cause. I shouldn't generalize. Going through a recent spate of court appearances concerning my now lost home of 20 years because of a spate of bad luck brought on by being forced to retire at reduced income and other exigencies, kind of left me with a jaundiced view of lawyers and bankers. I am sorry if I came off ignorant and if I offended you. You just might be a good person.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
126. I try. Sorry to hear of your home. Our firm is just starting to take foreclosure cases against
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:19 PM
Apr 2014

the big banks. I have been litigating almost exclusively against BP. First, for the March 23 2005 explosion at their plant in Texas City, Texas, and for the last 4 years since April 20 2010. I work hard for my clients and my heart goes out to them. It is hard to receive justice in America when a huge foreign corporation starts spreading their money and influence around. While I have run across my share of bad attorneys, I have also know a lot of them who volunteer and do a large amount of pro bono work. I really enjoy doing volunteer medications and representing police officers pro bono. I have seen my share of good and bad cops too, we are all human. I wish you better luck in the future!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
89. +1000
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:11 AM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

and not one of those future lawyers defended the brave one. Not one.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
119. Yes, it's surprising and upsetting, but also telling as to how San Francisco has changed.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:08 PM
Apr 2014

IMO. It's now all about $$$ and smoking pot. Steve Jobs showed them the way, I suppose.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
6. Thank you so much for doing this. I admire you so much and all the others, Code Pink et al who will
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:44 PM
Apr 2014

not allow the War Criminals, Condi being one of them, to go out in public without being reminded of their crimes and without informing others who may not know, what they have done.

I cannot believe she has the nerve to speak about Civil Rights, I guess that shows the depths of their depravity, the sheer gall they have which is I suppose what makes them what they are.

I will continue to hope that one day all of them will finally be held accountable for their crimes against humanity.

Just one question, did anyone ask her any questions?

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. The only questions she was asked came from the moderators
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:50 PM
Apr 2014

The most hard hitting question she was asked was "What was your biggest accomplishment as Secretary of State and what is the one thing you would have done differently?" After she answered the question and there was no applause the moderator said "If I were in the audience I would be applauding right now." It was a pretty shameful site to behold, but not at all surprising. People like Condi never want to be asked the tough questions so they make sure the only people who are able to ask questions will throw softballs.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
40. Coward, as always, she doesn't dare allow the public to question her. I was going to ask who paid
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:56 AM
Apr 2014

her fee, but just read it in the link someone provided here. I was glad to see that there were objections to her being invited, to speak about Civil Rights of all things.

I wonder if she's planning to try to run for office, VP maybe on the Repub ticket? Sad as it is to say, she would probably be supported by many on the right.

So thankful for people like you and your friends who won't let her or the public forget what they did. You truly deserve gratitude and huge kudos for going there.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
48. I think she is hoping to be picked for VP
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:30 AM
Apr 2014

I could see her getting picked too if the Republicans can get past having a pro-choice unmarried black woman on their ticket, she is very smooth and her speech tonight was the type of all American story that would sell well to a lot of voters. This is what makes Condi so dangerous, she is very smart and she knows how to manipulate people.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
55. I agree. I feel certain she has been discussed as a possible VP. The Repubs have been trying
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:43 AM
Apr 2014

to get the minority vote and the women's vote so she would seem like a perfect choice to them. More so BECAUSE she was part of the Bush Administration. They would use here SOS creds against Hillary's eg, so yes, tragically she is very likely to end up as a candidate for VP. What a horrible thought. It shows how depraved this country has become.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
64. She would probably have to arm wrestle with Oklahoma
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:00 AM
Apr 2014

Governor Fallin for it first. There is no doubt that Fallin wishes to take her path of destruction up to the national level.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
8. Thank you for your powerful statement.
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:52 PM
Apr 2014

May I share your story and photo with my FB friends, many of whom have been arrested for singing or holding signs in our state Capitol? I know they'd appreciate it.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
10. Sure go ahead...
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:54 PM
Apr 2014

If your friends are at the Wisconsin Capitol I have driven out there several times to stand along side them, Wisconsin protesters kick ass.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
12. awww, thank you!
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 11:57 PM
Apr 2014

Yes, we're still doing battle. In fact, we just found out that one of our first civil cases against the State can proceed. We still have about 300 open citations against singers/signers.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
16. I thought I heard the charges against them had been dropped, sounds like more help may be needed
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Apr 2014

Let me know about any major events that are going on out there, I have to drive four and a half hours each way to Madison so I can't make it out as often as I would like but would certainly come out for something big.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
19. The circuit court judges
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:08 AM
Apr 2014

are dismissing a few at a time - mostly based on the Crute case, which was dismissed on constitutional grounds. Therefore, the State is appealing the Crute decision. If that decision is overturned, then ALL of these cases will be back. So every week, several of our group have hearings and conferences, plodding through the process, while the judges try to figure out how to stop the insanity. It's at least 200, and I think still close to 300 cases still open.

On the plus side, we've just won a decision about discovery, so let the depositions of the Department of Administration roll! One of the Capitol Police officers was deposed last week, and more will be coming.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
22. Well tell your friends they are doing great work
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:15 AM
Apr 2014

Some of the best protests I have been to have been in Madison, fighting against powerful interests often brings legal challenges but I am very grateful to all the people who fight for our rights and the people in Madison have been fighting the battle as well as anyone.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
20. furthermore,
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:12 AM
Apr 2014

many were arrested for holding an 8 1/2 x 11" sign or staging other "protest" in the galleries of the Assembly or the Senate. One of my friends was removed from the gallery for putting a tiny post-it note on the bottom of her shoe when she had her legs crossed. OK, so we might have been testing the limits a bit at that time. I can't imagine what they would have done had we put on hoods.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
28. That is shameful, the harassment of protesters in this so-called democracy.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:30 AM
Apr 2014

I haven't seen anything about this in the press, have they been covering it?

Also, good luck to you and your friends, I hope the win every case and I hope it costs the morons who are behind this, especially if any of them are elected officials.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
33. Virtually no coverage in the press
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:39 AM
Apr 2014

even though Matt Rothschild, of the Progressive, was one of the arrestees on "Constitutional Carry Day," which was my creation! It was the first day that Constitutional Carry of guns was legal in Wisconsin, so I suggested we have "Constitution Carry" in the galleries. The guys with guns were fine, and the guys with PICTURES of guns, or a copy of the Constitution, were arrested. Go figure!

The Cap Times has an occasional story, but other than that, we're pretty much on our own.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
34. That is an awesome protest idea, I wish it had gotten more attention
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:48 AM
Apr 2014

Damn near everyone should be able to see how absurd it is that carrying a real gun is legal but carrying a photo of a gun is a crime, that is a brilliant protest idea.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
46. You are free to hijack my threads with info on what is happening in Wisconsin at any time
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:16 AM
Apr 2014

I don't always like having my threads hijacked, but I am all for it in cases like yours in which you have great stories to tell.

Lefta Dissenter

(6,622 posts)
50. Ok, well, maybe just one more post
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:31 AM
Apr 2014

From when The Voice Project asked if they could help to cover what is happening here... You know, the ones who work with Pussy Riot...

http://www.voiceproject.org/solidarity/

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. That's a shame. People do need to be made aware of the egregious violation of rights
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:52 AM
Apr 2014

granted in the Constitution in this country which appear to be getting worse every day.

Maybe someone should contact the media and let them know when the cases are coming up?

Or write an OP here to keep us informed and who knows who might read it?

Sorry you are all going through this, but I admire you all for what you are doing ...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
127. Ok
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:26 PM
Apr 2014

They have a hell of a time getting Walker out of office though. Twice Walker was elected Governor and heading towards a third time. I really wish the protesters would vote too.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
128. Protesters do vote, it was the protesters who made the recall happen
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 07:31 PM
Apr 2014

The protesters organized the recall effort and they turned out to vote in large numbers, unfortunately the centrists did not vote for the recall in large enough numbers to remove Walker from office.

JohnnyRingo

(18,635 posts)
15. Well done!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Apr 2014

I admire your courage and commitment, but I also have to give kudos to the event staff for not creating an ugly scene. I imagine such a statement won't fly everywhere, in spite of the 1st ammendment. I bet Cheney's people would have ordered you out.

Also kudos to you for not creating an unruly disturbance. Your civil restraint is commendable. You have a lot of class, probably more than I would have.

Good for you and thanx for posting!
K&R

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
18. They are all crawling out of their holes
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:07 AM
Apr 2014

Wow, 150K to hear that war criminal speak. All these lying psychopaths are crawling out of their holes to try to resurrect their reputations along with their accomplices in that liberal media. I will never ever forget what these evil people have done. Thank you for showing your disgust.

Peace

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. Excellent and well done
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:19 AM
Apr 2014

Isn't it funny how, in the United States today, speech isn't protected as speech, but money is protected as speech?

Eyerish

(1,495 posts)
27. It looks like you made it onto the Star Tribune website as well...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:29 AM
Apr 2014

'Condoleezza Rice tells U crowd: 'We kept the nation safe'
http://www.startribune.com/local/255642321.html

I tried to post the specific photos but there's an asterisk in the file path and they won't load.

Well done, Bjorn. Thank you!

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
63. "We kept the nation safe." Except for that 9-11 thing that happened under your watch.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:40 AM
Apr 2014

And the anthrax cases that followed.

Rice and her ilk really are sociopaths.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
31. Most of the speech was pure fluff
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:38 AM
Apr 2014

She did tell at least a couple bald faced lies when she said the 9/11 hijackers were from Afghanistan and her claim that she opposed black sites was also untrue. Most of her speech was about civil rights however and there was really nothing objectionable in what she had to say about civil rights, it was just very ironic to hear someone responsible for so many civil rights violations act as if she actually cared about civil rights.

Riftaxe

(2,693 posts)
36. Wish i coudl watch the civil rights part
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:51 AM
Apr 2014

but the afhangi thing will do is suspect, any idea when can we get video?

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
43. I am not sure if they are going to release a video or not
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:01 AM
Apr 2014

It is possible they will put it on YouTube or something, I don't know. It was a very well delivered speech, she talked a lot about her family and her experience growing up as a black girl in the south. She did not even sound like a Republican through most of the speech and she certainly did not sound like a war criminal, but of course giving a good speech means nothing if you are responsible for all the death and destruction she is responsible for.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
32. I recommended this OP.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:38 AM
Apr 2014

$150,000. She should be made a public laughing stock but manages to make this kind of money.

Wow.

What the fuck?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
42. I wouldn't be surprised if they have considered her as a VP candidate. And I wouldn't be surprised
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:01 AM
Apr 2014

at all if half the country would be willing to vote for her, sadly. This is what happens when War Criminals are not prosecuted but rather lauded for their crimes against humanity.

Shameful that we live in a country that lectures the rest of the world on human rights, while war criminals here receive obscene amounts of money for lectures on Civil Rights of all things. It is an insult to every victim of her lies and collaboration in those crimes.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
44. Yes, we should all be doing this. They should never be able to go out in public without being met by
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:02 AM
Apr 2014

protesters reminding them of their crimes.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
45. Proud to be 75th rec
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:04 AM
Apr 2014

Bjorn, your courage and class at this event is truly laudable. Throughout her entire disgusting performance, take heart that she could clearly see you all. She may have outwardly come across as smooth, but I'm betting she was internally rattled by your presence.

Regarding these outrageous speaking fees, for every person who stands up and confronts the speechifier, let's deduct $10,000. Maybe then they'd all give up the circuit.

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
47. What an awesome, courageous statement!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 01:19 AM
Apr 2014

She is despicable. The very thought of her ensconced in privilege at Stanford chaps my hide every single day.

Excellent work, Bjorn Against.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. Was the venue full? I see empty seats in that picture--was that before the place filled up or did
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 02:02 AM
Apr 2014

people stay away?

Gotta hand it to you--no lack of fortitude, there! Definitely a Money Where Mouth Is moment!

I hope you're wrong about the office seeking, and that she was there just for the speech payday.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
67. The auditorium was technically sold out, but there were lots of empty seats
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:20 AM
Apr 2014

Tickets to the event were free, but you had to get the ticket in advance. I think many people got tickets and then did not show up, that picture was taken less than five minutes before the event began so the majority of those empty seats stayed empty.

 

pitchforx

(49 posts)
66. great work!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:01 AM
Apr 2014

so now Condi is a civil rights activist....???
and George Bush is an artist....???
what's next, Dick Cheney as Luke Skywalker?
Rumsfeld as Santa Claus?

dicksmc3

(262 posts)
68. What!!! $150,000!!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:21 AM
Apr 2014

What the hell are people thinking giving this bitch $150,000 to LIE her ass off to save George W., Rummy and the biggest murderer in our history--Dickless Cheney!! The entire Bush team should be in jail maybe at Gitmo!! Lying bastards!!

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
70. This woman as well as Cheney and co.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:27 AM
Apr 2014

Deserved just to be tried and charge by the International Pénal Court for numerous indictments like:

Liars to invade Irak
Torture
War crimes
Crime against humanity
Élection fraud
Terrorizing american people and divide it.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
74. Very good!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:35 AM
Apr 2014

Remind these monsters what campaigning will be like, and we will never forget.

Maybe they'll stay home.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
77. the hypocracy and lies
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:01 AM
Apr 2014

of these right wing murderers/or facilitators of murder is getting untenable. How in the hell can she make money off of the murder of 100000+ people in a invasion/war based on lies? You are right, she is no civil rights leader or decent human being. She's disgusting and vile like the rest of that cabal.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
79. She really shouldn't be speaking in front of decent people. She should stick...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:14 AM
Apr 2014

to haters and war mongers. This is what she should face where ever she goes except Teabag rallies.

Thanks for your excellent and creative work.

cate94

(2,811 posts)
80. K & R
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:33 AM
Apr 2014

Thank you for doing this. Thank you for reminding the people in the audience who they really came to see.

spooky3

(34,456 posts)
81. Conservatives are progressive when they personally have been victims.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:34 AM
Apr 2014

So it's no coincidence that CR sounded progressive only on matters of race.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
82. Who pays her speaking fees?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:38 AM
Apr 2014

I would be very distressed to learn that a public university would pay for something like that, especially for addressing such a small audience. This is American, after all. For that kind of money I'd expect some entertainment, maybe have her do the halftime show at a football game, wearing an American flag outfit, a ten gallon hat and maybe sing the National Anthem while twirling a baton.

Ohio Joe

(21,756 posts)
86. Well done...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:07 AM
Apr 2014

The criminals who justified torture must be pointed out at every turn.

THAT... Is the right thing to do.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
90. Well done!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:12 AM
Apr 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
91. Future plans are to go out in to the World and start another Iraq-like war for fuel energy.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:17 AM
Apr 2014
http://rt.com/usa/condoleezza-rice-oil-chevron/

IMO, Condi Rice would like to start another neo-con war with Russia over the gas fields of Ukraine.
http://praag.org/?p=13466

judy

(1,942 posts)
93. I ran into her recently at Stanford University
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:19 AM
Apr 2014

I had rehearsed what I would say if it ever happened:
"How come you are not behind bars?"
"Ah, washing your hands trying to get rid of all the blood?"
"Oh, we wouldn't want the opposing sports team to end up being, let's say A MUSHROOM CLOUD! Eh?"

She was standing next to me, giggling in a cute way (definitely cultivating a "nice" image), I lost my nerve, I didn't say anything.
I did not have your courage Bjorn, so I am so glad that you did this!
Thank you! I am so grateful...

George II

(67,782 posts)
97. In all the appearances on television that i've seen of her....
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:08 PM
Apr 2014

....she has never specifically made a point about anything. Her entire "shtick" is buzzwords and catchphrases. No material substance whatsoever - as shallow as they come.

harun

(11,348 posts)
113. Bravo! She was one of Bush's best asset's in accomplishing crimes and
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 03:33 PM
Apr 2014

getting away with it. She cannot get a pass, no frickin way.

Not in terms of carrying the crimes out but laying down propaganda cover. She's a maestro at that.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
116. I applaud you for protesting without disrupting. While many here encourage that, I dont.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:03 PM
Apr 2014

Video of a bunch of people yelling or throwing things does nothing to further the cause and only makes the casual onlooker shake their head.
You were able to make a very clear point without resorting to crude tactics. LEt the right be the ones to show their ass.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
118. Kick!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 04:06 PM
Apr 2014

Silent protesting can often be far more powerfull than protest within disrups and screams. I experienced it a few times.

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