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http://www.alternet.org/economy/5-worst-cities-be-renter-unless-youre-fabulously-wealthy#1 Williston, North Dakota
Why Williston? It is located right in the middle of the oil boom and as a result has some of the highest rents in the country. According to Courtney Craig at the Apartment Guide blog, A 700-square-foot, one-bedroom, one-bath apartment in Williston easily can cost more than $2,000 per month. Looking for a little more space? A three-bedroom, three-bath apartment could cost as much as $4,500 per month.
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#2 is San Francisco, Silicon Valley and San Jose
Census Bureau numbers from 2010 to 2012 show that San Franciscos median rent was $1,463 and this holds all the way down to San Jose, with a median rent of $1,441. That means that half of the housing almost all of which is occupied by longer-term tenants with rent control -- are rented for $1,463 or less, and half the only places you will see on the market -- for more; often for much, much more. (Note that CNN reported in February that San Francisco has seen rents rise 12.3 percent year-over-year through January to a median average of $3,350 for a two-bedroom apartment. An apartment in San Francisco's Pacific Heights neighborhood that rented for $2,100 in 2010, for example, now rents for $3,200 a month...)
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#3 Boston
According to the same Census Bureau survey of 2010-2012 Bostons median rent is $1,260 per month ( CBS: Median studio apartment: $2,000, median two-bedroom apartment: $3,505.)
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#4 Washington, D.C.
Washington, DCs median rent is $1,236 ( Census Bureau 2010-2012) -- 40.7 percent of median household income. ( CBS: median studio apartment: $1,675, median two-bedroom apartment: $3,110.) It would take a wage of $28.25 an hour to support a modest 2-bedroom home in DC.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)I don't think I'd pay that much in rent even if I had the money. If I'm going to pay that much per month, it had better be a payment on a house, and even that would be outrageous.
I've thought about moving to one of those cities like Detroit where you can pick up a house really cheap. If I could get enough friends to move up there with me, I think it could be an interesting experiment. If enough younger and middle-aged people who were liberal-minded would move to some of those neighborhoods, it could really transform the city.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)If we can't get liberal politicians to ensure that housing is affordable for all and that wages are fair (20 dollars minimum) then we really are going to have a hard time. In Maryland, one of the most liberal states in the United States where I live, I was thrilled to see that they were passing the minimum wage raise. However, they decided to have the 10.10 go into affect in 2018....2018! Heck you will need to raise it again even before then. I just don't understand politicians who are supposed to be our best progressive and liberals are not taking things more seriously.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)That accomplished absolutely nothing. As you said, it'll need to be raised again by 2018. If the liberals in Maryland are owned by big business, what hope do we have in other states, not to mention Congress? That's why I say that it's going to take people in the streets to get anything accomplished anymore. We can't depend on any of our politicians anymore. We're going to have to make the politicians fear us more than they fear big business and the other people who have bought them. It's the only way.
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)Fucking assholes.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Of course the rent is going up.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)And not one size fits all. A typical 2 br apartment here is $600 to $700. Groceries are cheaper, energy is cheaper too...
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)A decent lifestyle is just more ridiculously out of reach some places than others.
RandoLoodie
(133 posts)maybe in Mud Patch, Alabama.
But you better be living with all your extended kinfolk in a big ass double wide trailer.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Just that if it is $10 here it should be $20 at these places. ..
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)States that have a higher cost of living should raise their minimum wage to meet a minimum standard of living. States with a lower cost of living, like mine, will never pay more than the required minimum. States like CA and NY should always have a higher wage, but it's really up to state legislatures to determine whether people in their states can live off the minimum wage.
A person could live off $10 and hour here in MS. They wouldn't exactly be comfortable, but they could basically support themselves. It's probably the same in about half of the country. Blue states are generally wealthier than red states and have a higher standard of living. It would also be easier to pass a state minimum wage increase in a blue state, so I guess that works out all right.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)However it seems like the same argument I hear from the right when advocating that we don't need a minimum wage. I always considered a minimum wage necessary to make sure the lowest paid workers could be able to get by until they built their value enough to get a raise. This model seems only to accomplish that in the least expensive states, leaving employers in the expensive states to their own devices. ..
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)we'll see that passed until after I've already retired. I hope I'm wrong. I do think that the country is trending toward a more socialist government, at least with the younger people, but it's going to take a lot of fighting to accomplish our goals. I hope we see a change in American attitudes about action and involvement in our government's workings. That's the only thing that will bring about real change. Simply voting accomplishes little as long as we have this utterly corrupted system in place.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)and wages in this town have always been low.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I guess the non-Manhattan boroughs drag down the median rent. Still high but not as obscenely high.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Not sure about Staten Island. Almost never find myself there.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)4_TN_TITANS
(2,977 posts)but we have a 3,500 sq. ft. house (2 ba/4+ bdrm, full basement) on 3/4 acre - $738/mo. mortgage payment. Plenty of land for a full service garden.
Those of you who wonder why many of us tolerate the South should check out the cost of living.
LuvNewcastle
(16,846 posts)working ourselves to death. People in other areas also forget that not everyone in the South is a RW asshole. There are other liberals here and even more people who are apolitical. Some of the Republicans are good people, too, they're just misguided. In a lot of ways, people down here are pretty good. I'd say that the worst thing about the South is the summers. The humidity is brutal, and it can really be hell sometimes.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)and I've yet to see apartment prices in the median range they write about. I just looked on WaPo for rentals and a two-bedroom, near a metro stop (which is always more expensive) didn't reach the $3k mark. Granted is was in the $2k range which is ridiculous but they must be talking about rents right smack in downtown DC.