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xchrom

(108,903 posts) Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:01 AM Apr 2014

advice to democrats: don't say 'recovery'

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RECOVERY_NO_NO?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-04-18-03-38-04

FILE - Democratic strategist James Carville and then co-host of CNN's "Crossfire" speaks to the media in this Wednesday, July 28, 2004 file photo taken at the FleetCenter in Boston during the Democratic National Convention. An election-year memo to Democratic candidates: Don’t talk about the economic recovery. It’s a political loser. Carville and others wrote that in head-to-head polling tests the mere mention of the word `recovery’ is trumped by a Republican assertion that the Obama administration has had six years to get the economy moving and its policies haven’t worked.(AP Photo/Victoria Arocho, File)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Election-year memo to Democratic candidates: Don't talk about the economic recovery. It's a political loser.

So say Democratic strategists in a blunt declaration that such talk skips over "how much trouble people are in, and doesn't convince them that policymakers really understand or are even focusing on the problems they continue to face."

In addition, Stan Greenberg, James Carville and others wrote that in head-to-head polling tests the mere mention of the word "recovery" is trumped by a Republican assertion that the Obama administration has had six years to get the economy moving and its policies haven't worked.

Coincidentally or not, Democrats have largely shelved the "R" word.

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advice to democrats: don't say 'recovery' (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP

Good advice or not, I don't trust this guy. Scuba Apr 2014 #1

no - i don't think there is any reason to trust him. nt xchrom Apr 2014 #3

That Snake is hard to look at madokie Apr 2014 #2

I am not a political strategist Cirque du So-What Apr 2014 #4

"Coincidentally or not" -- I am betting on "not" KurtNYC Apr 2014 #5

It is good advice. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #6

+1 Trillo Apr 2014 #7

It's good advice. TransitJohn Apr 2014 #8

In my opinion he is 100% correct... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #9

Scuba

(53,475 posts)

1. Good advice or not, I don't trust this guy.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:03 AM

Apr 2014

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

3. no - i don't think there is any reason to trust him. nt

Reply to Scuba (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:08 AM

Apr 2014

madokie

(51,076 posts)

2. That Snake is hard to look at

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:07 AM

Apr 2014

fuck him and the puke horse he rode in on

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)

4. I am not a political strategist

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:14 AM

Apr 2014

and I don't play one on teevee, but I am not convinced that 'recovery' should never be heard. IMO it's a worthwhile topic for comparison with the dismal Boosh years. In addition, 'recovery' should always be prefaced with 'fragile,' just before launching into a diatribe about how repugs in Congress are attempting to derail that recovery.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)

5. "Coincidentally or not" -- I am betting on "not"

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:44 AM

Apr 2014

since political campaigns are among the most data and focus group driven of all advertising.

The 3rd rule of marketing is "Listen to the customer and then speak back to them with the phrases they just used." So if the customer doesn't say recovery then the candidate should not say it.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)

6. It is good advice.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:54 AM

Apr 2014

The 'recovery' has bypassed most Americans. With 90+% of the wealth gains going to the top few percent, and most people actually losing wealth over the course of the 'recovery', it's a political loser for those who want to claim it exists in any real sense for most of us.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)

7. +1

Reply to Erich Bloodaxe BSN (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:01 AM

Apr 2014

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)

8. It's good advice.

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:07 AM

Apr 2014

For Jamie Dimon and other Wall Street crooks and banksters, they've seen a recovery.
For 99% of America, not so much.

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)

9. In my opinion he is 100% correct...

Reply to xchrom (Original post)

Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:19 AM

Apr 2014

You don't talk about a 'recovery' when a large percentage of your voters haven't experienced one. And considering our party no longer seems to care, and has no plan for the folks crippled and left for dead by this Depression, it's probably better if Democratic party politicians don't talk about the economy at all.

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