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underpants

(182,823 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 08:49 AM Apr 2014

Morning laugh. Fox News math - NYC Mayor only paid 8.3% in taxes

Last edited Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Flipping through the news channels this morning I happened upon Fox & Friends.

Big news! New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio only paid 8.3% in taxes!!!

Full segment including comment from Stuart Varney (he has an English accent you know). Then they put their graphic on screen:

de Blasio Income: $217,000
Taxes paid: $25,000
Rate: 8.3%

Cross comments about how de Blasio makes "a THOUSAND DOLLARS a week on rent" and how poor Mitt Romney was raked over the coals for his tax amount.

I sat there laughing. Remove 1 zero from the income (which is much less than I would have expected) -- 10% is $21,700. How the hell did they get 8.3%??? It actually works out to 12% which is about what my wife and I pay.

I see on a google search that The Daily Caller and Breitbart also have this story posted......so you know it must be true

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Morning laugh. Fox News math - NYC Mayor only paid 8.3% in taxes (Original Post) underpants Apr 2014 OP
Difference is, DiBlasio thinks he should pay more JaneyVee Apr 2014 #1
He is always free to cut a check to the treasury AngryAmish Apr 2014 #7
It was to fund social programs and pre-k, what good JaneyVee Apr 2014 #9
And why is that teaparty talking point ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #12
LOL. both bush and you make this point as though it has any real meaning La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2014 #16
It's all right to send an unsolicited check to the treasury, but adieu Apr 2014 #24
Maths is hard!!1111!!!!111, lol. nt BootinUp Apr 2014 #2
LOL pinto Apr 2014 #3
Math has a Liberal bias. tridim Apr 2014 #4
Math Has Been SKEWED! Stallion Apr 2014 #11
When you do math you should know what the right numbers are. former9thward Apr 2014 #14
Soxnews is the crap pit of infotainment. Rex Apr 2014 #5
The first one took me a minute underpants Apr 2014 #6
Good thing they told Dubya first! Rex Apr 2014 #25
It really doesn't surprise me... WaitWut Apr 2014 #8
Even at 12%, why is it we peons pay 30%+ and the rich are so much lower? seveneyes Apr 2014 #10
yep..... dhill926 Apr 2014 #15
It's basically due to how one earns his or her income and what kind of deductions they have DefenseLawyer Apr 2014 #23
Your "facts" are all messed up. former9thward Apr 2014 #13
I was commenting how they presented it underpants Apr 2014 #17
If they showed 217k in income they messed that up. former9thward Apr 2014 #18
Good catch underpants Apr 2014 #20
Got the link open - with his donations at $165K = 12% underpants Apr 2014 #19
That was a spoof, but it could REALLY have happend for real! mylye2222 Apr 2014 #21
I need to hire a tax person because I am getting screwed. dilby Apr 2014 #22
Fox uses mathiness. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #26
LOL underpants Apr 2014 #27
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
9. It was to fund social programs and pre-k, what good
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:23 AM
Apr 2014

Would cutting a check to the treasury do from one person?

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
24. It's all right to send an unsolicited check to the treasury, but
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:28 PM
Apr 2014

one cannot just overpay one's taxes. It's actually more of a pain for the IRS as they HAVE to refund you back the overpayment.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
4. Math has a Liberal bias.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 09:51 AM
Apr 2014

The GOP gave up math long ago.

They don't even do fuzzy math any more, which requires subtle manipulation of the results. It's easier to just use 100% pure ass-numbers.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
14. When you do math you should know what the right numbers are.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:23 AM
Apr 2014

De Blasio had an income of 165k not 217k as the OP reported and paid 13,700 in federal taxes. My elementary school math makes that a 8.3% effective federal tax rate.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. Good thing they told Dubya first!
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 06:24 PM
Apr 2014

Uh sir...that is Egypt...maybe we should pick on somebody a little weaker?

WaitWut

(71 posts)
8. It really doesn't surprise me...
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:18 AM
Apr 2014

When I get into discussions that turns to tax policy, I always ask what is your current tax rate?

9 out of 10 Armchair Pundits have no idea.

If you don't know the actual price of something how can you complain that it is too high? And if you don't know how much your rate is different from... say... Paris Hilton's... well, you don't know how bad you're getting ripped off.



 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
10. Even at 12%, why is it we peons pay 30%+ and the rich are so much lower?
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 10:32 AM
Apr 2014

That's more than 30% right off the top, not including property tax, sales tax etc. Shouldn't people like him making 200k+ be paying at least as much as the little guy?

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
23. It's basically due to how one earns his or her income and what kind of deductions they have
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:09 PM
Apr 2014

A person whose income comes from a salary has fewer deductions for business expenses than someone that runs a business, for example, so the effective tax rate is lower for the business owner. Of course the person whose income is spent on business expenses ends up "keeping" less of his or her income than a salary earner without those necessary expenses, so at the end of the day it tends to balance out, until you get to the mega-rich, who deal with taxes in an entirely different way.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
13. Your "facts" are all messed up.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:20 AM
Apr 2014

And you are mixing up "effective tax rate". Effective tax rate is what you pay the federal government. De Blasio had an effective tax rate of 8.3%. His income was $165,000 -- not 217k as you reported and he paid $13715 in federal taxes. That is an effective tax rate of 8.3%. He paid about $25,000 in total taxes when you included all the taxes he paid state and local. But that is not the number that is used when comparing effective tax rates.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2014/04/15/mayor-bill-de-blasio-releases-his-tax-returns/

underpants

(182,823 posts)
17. I was commenting how they presented it
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:44 AM
Apr 2014

Your link is slow for me but I will go with what you posted.

They showed exactly what I posted originally and then sat there nodding and agreeing with it. That is what I was making fun of.

former9thward

(32,016 posts)
18. If they showed 217k in income they messed that up.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:48 AM
Apr 2014

They must of added his 52k of rental income to his total income of 165k to get 217k. But the 52k is part of the 165k of total income.

underpants

(182,823 posts)
19. Got the link open - with his donations at $165K = 12%
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 11:52 AM
Apr 2014

$13k paid plus $5,500 to charities rounded up to $19K. 19/165=12%.

He contributed to charities which is the way it is set up to work.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
22. I need to hire a tax person because I am getting screwed.
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 12:03 PM
Apr 2014

He is making 3 times more than me and paying just $6000 more a year in taxes than me. I need to have someone go through all my financials and really tell me where I can make some serious deductions.

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