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spanone

(135,846 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:47 PM Apr 2014

wtf? UAW withdraws Volkswagen appeal

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The United Auto Workers announced Monday it is withdrawing its appeal of the outcome of a union vote at Volkswagen's assembly plant in Tennessee.

In a statement released one hour before the scheduled start of a National Labor Relations Board hearing in Chattanooga, Tenn., UAW President Bob King said the union decided to abandon the challenge because it could have taken months or even years to come to a conclusion.

"The UAW is ready to put February's tainted election in the rearview mirror and instead focus on advocating for new jobs and economic investment in Chattanooga," King said.

The UAW had filed its appeal after Volkswagen workers rejected the union in a 712-626 vote in February, arguing that public statements from U.S. Sen. Bob Corker, Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam and other GOP officials had raised fears about the plant's future if workers there organized.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/25296501/uaw-withdraws-volkswagen-appeal

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wtf? UAW withdraws Volkswagen appeal (Original Post) spanone Apr 2014 OP
Very disappointing. Lars39 Apr 2014 #1
Either a backroom deal has been made rocktivity Apr 2014 #2
Given the circumstances, it would most likely have failed. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #3
'public officials intervened' all the more reason spanone Apr 2014 #4
The NLRB has no regulations regarding intervention by public officials. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #5
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm malaise Apr 2014 #6
Could've bothered with why jeff47 Apr 2014 #7
Well, they might get a Senate Hearing Savannahmann Apr 2014 #9
thanks for the post otherone Apr 2014 #13
Smells fishy...nt clarice Apr 2014 #8
Curious to see VW act. GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #10
Act? How? Savannahmann Apr 2014 #12
VW should press for Corkers promised goodies otherone Apr 2014 #14
time to move forward with Corkers promised goodies otherone Apr 2014 #11
Actually VW will be expanding. Savannahmann Apr 2014 #15
We'll see Sgent Apr 2014 #16
VW is currently number 3 in the world. Savannahmann Apr 2014 #17
thanks for the post otherone Apr 2014 #20
'Put it in the rearview mirror?' A few days ago they were sending subpeonas pa28 Apr 2014 #18
that's what struck me. why the complete 180? i imagine they weighed all this before subpoenas....? spanone Apr 2014 #19
Backroom deals will never reverse the long chain of setbacks suffered by labor. pa28 Apr 2014 #22
I think the UAW struck a deal w/VW based on agreement for a works council and Congressional okaawhatever Apr 2014 #23
Hmmm. I wonder if VW agreed to recognize the UAW on the strength of........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2014 #21
Bob King is a total disaster. Union Scribe Apr 2014 #24

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
2. Either a backroom deal has been made
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:53 PM
Apr 2014

or somebody's being blackmailed.

Why not simply have another election?


rocktivity

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. Given the circumstances, it would most likely have failed.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 01:58 PM
Apr 2014

The financial input would have been great and the likelihood of prevailing would have been nearly non-existent due to the problems surrounding public elected officials being the people who intervened rather than managers from the company.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. The NLRB has no regulations regarding intervention by public officials.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:05 PM
Apr 2014

The regulations being used to challenge the vote pertain only to intervention by company officials.

It was a tenuous argument on its face and the regs need to be changed, but even if changed they cannot go back and undo something that was fine under the regs at the time.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. Could've bothered with why
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:16 PM
Apr 2014

Long story short, they figured they could never win before the NLRB. Regulations against interference only cover company officials, not government officials.

The UAW also says they think they'll have better luck working through Congress for both an investigation and changes to the regulations and laws.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. Well, they might get a Senate Hearing
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 02:26 PM
Apr 2014

That is until November when the Rethugs will most probably win control of that chamber too.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
12. Act? How?
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Apr 2014

The vote was held, and the UAW lost. The why is an issue, but not one for the NLRB to take up. VW acted properly and even tacitly approved of the move to Unionize.

Would you expect them to set the vote aside and announce that the employees are now unionized? Talk about lawsuits out the wazoo, that is a recipe for bankruptcy via legal fees.

So exactly how is VW supposed to act?

otherone

(973 posts)
11. time to move forward with Corkers promised goodies
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:46 PM
Apr 2014

the UAW was being scapgoated as Corker can't deliver.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
15. Actually VW will be expanding.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 04:53 PM
Apr 2014

In January, VW announced that they were investing $7 Billion in expanding their North American market share. That will certainly include additional models and manufacturing to maximize the "American made" label on the VW's.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/13/us-autoshow-detroit-vw-investment-idUSBREA0C00O20140113


(Reuters) - Volkswagen AG said on Sunday it plans to make a sport utility vehicle tailored for the North American market and will invest $7 billion in the region as it seeks to increase sales.

Europe's largest automaker reiterated its goal of selling 1 million Volkswagen and upscale Audi vehicles annually in the United States by 2018 as it launches more locally made cars.

The company said the move was a sign of renewed commitment to the market after a sales decline by its core VW brand, which continues to achieve low U.S. quality scores.


So Corker's claim will come true, and it would have even if the vote had gone for the UAW. It was nothing more than a show. Like a magician claiming that he would make the sun disappear on the day of an eclipse. The sun vanishing was going to happen anyway, and there isn't really anything that anyone could do to stop it.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
16. We'll see
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 05:53 PM
Apr 2014

the German board of directors (1/3 union) has said they will not expand the factory until worker council's are in place, which in the US requires a union. There are a lot of factories in Michigan and Ohio that would agree to be unionized.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
17. VW is currently number 3 in the world.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 06:11 PM
Apr 2014

They really want to bump Toyota out of Second place. That's part of the goal is expanding the market share in North America. I figure it's almost certain that the Board of Directors will change their opinion especially since the UAW has dropped their claim.

Either way, Volkswagen is expanding. And Union aside, the plant in Chattanooga is a Green miracle for an auto plant.



The 33 Acre solar farm is highlighted here.

Finally, one more video that is from VW about the many green earth policies that they've invested in.



I became aware of all of that stuff about a year ago, and I was seriously impressed, and regretted not choosing a VW when I had bought a new car for Herself, the wife. It was one of the final two choices, but we went with Toyota instead.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
18. 'Put it in the rearview mirror?' A few days ago they were sending subpeonas
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

and promising accountability along with the state legislature, NLRB and Congressional Democrats.

Looks like Corker's malfeasance is getting swept under the rug . . . as Republican malfeasance always is.

Weak.

spanone

(135,846 posts)
19. that's what struck me. why the complete 180? i imagine they weighed all this before subpoenas....?
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:11 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:51 PM - Edit history (1)

or the threat of subpoenas???

pa28

(6,145 posts)
22. Backroom deals will never reverse the long chain of setbacks suffered by labor.
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:15 PM
Apr 2014

Unfortunately that seems to be what happened here.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
23. I think the UAW struck a deal w/VW based on agreement for a works council and Congressional
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:30 AM
Apr 2014

Dems (Federal Level) pursuing a hearing on Corker and others involvement. Remember, VW didn't want a union. They want a works council similar to theirs in Germany. UAW had signed a unique agreement with the plant regarding their role, which made it more similar to the works council. If that's the case I think the UAW did the right thing. The NLRB rules for this aren't very helpful and VW was holding up the expansion until something could get worked out. The UAW's reputation may have been so tarnished by it that workers in the South would have never welcomed them.

The company issued a statement Monday welcoming the UAW decision as "an important gesture for a constructive dialogue in Chattanooga." Volkswagen said it will continue to pursue its efforts to establish "a new, innovative form of co-determination in the USA."

From UAW Regional Director Gary Casteel:

"Now they need to step up and do what's right for VW and those workers over there, get the incentives without any strings attached, and let VW concentrate on making cars and implementing their philosophy and culture that they use globally into that plant in Chattanooga," he said.

From the Guardian article:

At the same time Democrats on the US House committee on education and the workforce opened an inquiry into the incentives package.

“The unprecedented political interference by governor Haslam, senator Corker and others was a distraction for Volkswagen employees and a detour from achieving Tennessee’s economic priorities,” King said. “The UAW is ready to put February’s tainted election in the rearview mirror and instead focus on advocating for new jobs and economic investment in Chattanooga.”

House committee members George Miller of California and John Tierney of Massachusetts sent a letter to Haslam last week asking for documents relating to the incentives package.

“Our request is part of an inquiry to understand the extent to which the activities of Tennessee state officials may have undermined, or attempted to undermine, federal rights guaranteed to workers in Chattanooga,” the letter said.

King said the UAW would ask the congressional inquiry to examine the use of federal funds in the state’s alleged incentives threat. “Frankly, Congress is a more effective venue for publicly examining the now well-documented threat,” King said.


Sounds like somewhat of a deal between UAW and VW to work on a works council type union and Congress to deal with Corker et ux through hearings.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
21. Hmmm. I wonder if VW agreed to recognize the UAW on the strength of........
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 07:34 PM
Apr 2014

the signed cards.

I know that the UAW is a lapdog union, but I wouldn't think they would just give it up without a fight. Of course, that lack of fight was probably what lost the vote in the first place.

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