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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsZimmerman's father claims Trayvon told Zimmerman "YOU'RE GONNA DIE TONIGHT."
His father did an interview with Fox station in Florida.
"YOU'RE GONNA DIE TONIGHT. YOU'RE GONNA DIE NOW."
Lawrence O'Donnell just played it and at the end said "HE TOLD THE GUY WITH THE GUN 'YOU'RE GONNA DIE'?"
And O'Donnell also points out that neither George Zimmerman not Joe Oliver have shared this bullshit. This just came from the dad, today.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)mucifer
(23,548 posts)d_b
(7,463 posts)oh nvm
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)What crap.
CakeGrrl
(10,611 posts)These jackasses think people are a stupid as they are desperate.
Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)having a bad hair day
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,942 posts)So this judge heard first hand what Trayvon told his scumsucking son? These are the type of people that should had been castrated years ago.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)txwhitedove
(3,929 posts)Ship of Fools
(1,453 posts)to try high profile cases in the court of public opinion. That, along with
watching war play out on the teevee machine, is pretty creepy to me and
more than just a little fucked up.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)gun and you don't? That's suicidal and if this was the case, why is this si first time we're hearing this? This story is evolving day by day.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I can't believe that anyone would believe that Trayvon said that, due to his age and size, compared with GZ's, unless it was a response to something GZ said, like "you're gonna die tonight," and Trayvon responded, "No, YOU'RE gonna die tonight." Even that's a stretch, I think.
But GZ's dad wasn't there or on the phone with GZ, was he? Let's go with what we know. The girlfriend heard some things on the phone, and GZ said some things on the 911 calls. And there's the neighbor's 911 call with screams in the background.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)the night his son killed Trayvon. Lawrence reported that Norm Wolfinger, the state attorney showed up at the police station the night of the shooting. I've never heard of a prosecutor getting this involved this early in a case.
Devil_Fish
(1,664 posts)that eaither.
You know who talks like that?? White people. Old white people. Especially old white judges.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)in Mob Movies.
bayareamike
(602 posts)The language used demonstrates the race and class privilege that GZ and his father enjoy.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Cagni, Muni, etc.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)You know, the sheer effort and desperation involved in these lies is itself a freakin' puzzle!
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Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)that are going on.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)to further incite feeling against them.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)news for hours every day. Although it doesn't sound like there's much of another side. Still, the presentation of rumors as facts, guilty before a trial, etc., is getting out of hand. It's gotten to the point of danger.
He's been on TV once, with his face obscured. That's reasonable, IMO.
He's wise to be afraid for his son's life, and his own. Read the posts here and around the internet. GZ would probably be killed if he went out in public.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's critical that some other facts get out, besides those supporting "guilty of murder." If he wants a fair trial for his son (which he won't get at this point, probably).
He is correct to be afraid of his life. People are trying to hunt his son down and post addresses for others to track him down in person...and do ....whatever. I think someone would kill him. Or even anyone they think might be GZ.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)There is no 'other side'. His son killed Trayvon Martin in cold blood and needs to be behind bars.
The "other side" is allowing a murderer to go free.
If this corrupt @sshole were afraid for his life, he wouldn't be on camera.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught
salin
(48,955 posts)Very improbable. Especially in light of the recordings of the 911 calls. So Zimmerman, with a gun and a car, was so threatened by these words that he started calling for help and only stopped when he shot Martin.
I acknowledge that not all facts are known. But this claim falls flat on what evidence is thus far known.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)First it was, "You got a problem?" Punch to the nose. "Well, now you do!" Now that is followed up with "You're gonna die, tonight. You're gonna die, now!"
I'm betting Zimmerman is a big Lee Marvin fan.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)This is freaking stupid.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Forgot about that.
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gkhouston
(21,642 posts)This bad B movie dialog sounds like the sort of fantasy script that someone like Zimmerman puffs himself up with.
Ranting_Wacko
(220 posts)... because if skinny 17 year old Trayvon Martin told a man who had a gun pulled and a few dozen pounds on him that he was going to die? Zimmerman wouldn't be alive today - he'd have been crushed into a singularity by the sheer, inescapable mass of Trayvon Martin's balls!
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)Sow as much doubt as he can.
And it's completely transparent.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Yikes.
mac56
(17,569 posts)All the young high school kids say "YOU'RE GONNA DIE TONIGHT" as a term of affection!!1!
, in case it's really necessary
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shimonitanegi
(114 posts)Zimmerman is the one who has a violent history, not Martin
Zimmerman is the one who carried a loaded gun (with permit), Martin unarmed
Zimmerman is the one who followed Martin, Martin felt a threat (his GF told so)
Zimmerman is the one who said "These assholes always get away" with frustration
Martin was happily talking with his girl friend over the phone.
EC
(12,287 posts)and they have to get info out to make Trayvon look scary in as many venues as possible to get a jury that will be swayed into believing Z was afraid for his life. Muddy waters make it harder to clearly see.
The Midway Rebel
(2,191 posts)Disorienting and debilitating punches to the nose do not bleed, grown men sound like teenage boys when they scream for their life and "goon" is a term of endearment.
What did I miss?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)You forgot that one.
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baldguy
(36,649 posts)+1000
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)You've got the gat, go ratta-tat-tat.
I'm not gonna let the coppahs get me.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)James Cagney in 'White Heat'--classic!
sendero
(28,552 posts)... up more and more completely unprovable and almost certainly lying bullshit.
It's unbelievable.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)...unless suddenly he was there too.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)right before he murdered that young man.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)to come up with a story.
RFKHumphreyObama
(15,164 posts)If you are going to lie and make up stuff, at least try and make it convincing. That's just lame
On the other hand, maybe he should keep talking. The more he opens his mouth, the more his credibility (and that of his son) -admittedly low to begin with -is shot to pieces
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)That's the ticket.