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R.I.N.O.s ... D.I.N.O.s ... and ... D.I.L.D.O.s?
Am I allowed to say that? - D.I.N.O.s? Anyway, I have noticed that, generally speaking, Democratic Undergrounders are polite, well-informed, intelligent, open-minded, respectful of facts and science, and they aren't pricks.
All bets are off, however, on threads relating to the use of recreational drugs. Say anything negative, or even neutral, when discussing the use of drugs and you are likely to be bombarded with comments that are as closed-minded, illogical, uninformed, and as downright pricky as comments you'd expect from Republicans.
Some Democratic Undergrounders seem to be on board only because of the perception that Democratic politicians are more supportive of legalizing recreational drugs than Republican politicians are.
We have long recognized the existence of Republicans-In-Name-Only, or RINOs, and Democrats-In-Name-Only, or DINOs. Now it appears that a new type has been identified, Democrats-In-Legalizing-Drugs-Only, or DILDOs. (Don't blame ME, that's the acronym!)
I first became aware of this when the writer of the pop song Cocaine, J.J. Cale, died. Amidst all the tributes I thought it was worth pointing out that he wrote a song promoting drug abuse and was undoubtedly responsible for at least a few deaths.
I was bombarded with negative comments filled with Republican-style logic, viciousness, and bad manners. Some people didn't like my counter-comments and complained that this asshole is insulting everyone in the room. In true Republican style, this was a lie. I insulted only the DILDOs. And ONLY the ones that insulted me FIRST!
Many of the negative commenters said that Cocaine is really an ANTI-drug song. They pointed to the songwriter's explanation that it is an anti-cocaine song disguised as a pro-cocaine song, because an anti-drug song wouldn't be accepted. That kind of BS would make Rush Limbaugh proud! If it SOUNDS LIKE a pro-cocaine song, it will have the effect of a pro-cocaine song. There's no way around it!
As a writer at one website puts it, most of the song's lyrics: could feature in the text of a Colombian drug-runners spring/fall catalogue:
If you want to hang out, youve got to take her out, cocaine
She dont lie, she dont lie, she dont lie, cocaine
If you got bad news, you want to kick them blues, cocaine
When your day is done and you got to run, cocaine
She dont lie, she dont lie, she dont lie, cocaine
If your thing is gone and you want to ride on, cocaine
He rates it as the top cocaine song of all time. http://listverse.com/2008/07/03/top-10-cocaine-songs-of-all-time/
Are Democrats-In-Legalizing-Drugs-Only really Democrats? Should they be allowed to post at Democratic Underground? I don't think so.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Archae
(46,328 posts)I've just seen too much damage meth does.
As to other "recreational" drugs, it's kind of iffy, depends on the drug.
Pot should be legalized.
Heroin not.
Is that song about cocaine for or against use?
I don't know.
The Beatles song "A Day In The Life" is anti-drug, IMO.
A guy has a practically nothing life, just taking a bus to work, his only "joy" in life is getting really stoned.
And that final chord, sounds like death to me.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Of course, most meth use isn't by prescription. It might be better if it were. Users would get pills to eat instead of powders to shoot or snort, they wouldn't be doing the stimulant equivalent of bath tub gin, they'd be subjected to at least minimal medical supervision, and, under the ACA, they are eligible for treatment.
Some meth users commit crimes. Those that do should be prosecuted (for those offenses). Those that don't shouldn't.
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)With the dying and the elderly is health problems.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)That doesn't mean all drugs should be available without a prescription or that anyone has to supply the drug.
Meth actually is legal and is available with a prescription. Recreational use should be a valid reason to prescribe a drug, but that doesn't mean the physician should be absolved from responsibility.
The problem with making drugs illegal is they simply drive the supply underground which creates more problems than it could ever hope to solve. The results speak for themselves.
Warpy
(111,264 posts)meth heads would be few and far between and they'd exist as a warning to other people to stay away from the stuff.
Every bathtub drug that has come along (and meth qualifies) has been far worse than the stuff it has tried to replace because of the drug war.
That song just tells it like it is for addicts. Anything that happens is a reason to use. Break a shoelace? Cocaine. It's Wednesday? Cocaine. Going to rain over the weekend? Cocaine.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)from this exchange - http://www.democraticunderground.com/11701945
btw, jefffro - if you yell at someone with all caps - you might expect a little snark in return, fwiw.
4now
(1,596 posts)and then want to spend a beautiful Sunday arguing about it.
Sounds like something to do when you are high on cocaine.
..... I'm sure lots of people decided to use cocaine on the basis of a pop song. Yeah, right.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)Eagerly awaiting your posts proclaiming prohibition a good idea.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 28, 2014, 02:23 AM - Edit history (1)
He wants to ppr people here who do not support the drug war or who are in favor of changing current drug laws regarding cannabis - which - from what I can glean, would include the administrators.
This is a common tactic here whenever someone with an authoritarian streak doesn't like someone else's opinion - they try to label those others as libertarians, etc.
And, of course, this person lies about people here by saying they only care about drug issues - which is bullshit.
Must suck to be an authoritarian posting on DU.
eta, b/c I'm a curious sort in this way... here's the thread about JJ Cale that had him so upset. He's arguing for censorship. heh. Yeah, that's something I have no strong opinions about either.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023367151
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)I continually wonder why people think they can successfully call for members to be banned when they run out of arguments.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)RainDog
(28,784 posts)Or about the drug war sentencing polices
muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)and this may result in them getting banned.
You think you've found some DUers who are right wing, but support drug legalization on DU. Rather than starting threads about it, attack the right wing views in the threads, and alert on them. I can assure you that MIRT frequently see and ban libertarians who sign up. But they can't tell them by seeing if they're in favour of legalization.
I don't think anyone has been given a pass for right wing views on DU just because they've also posted for drug legalization.