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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew tape: NBA owner Sterling told girlfriend, 'In Israel, blacks are treated like dogs'
In the original, shorter tape released Friday by the TMZ website, which has caused a storm in the United States, Sterling is heard at a game complaining to his black-Mexican girlfriend, V. Stiviano, after seeing that she'd posted Instagrams of herself with black former basketball star Magic Johnson. "Don't bring black people" to the Clippers games, he tells her. It bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that youre associating with black people. Do you have to?
In the new, 15-minute tape released Sunday by the U.S. website Deadspin, Sterling, 80, is heard telling Stiviano, 38, "You think I'm a racist " which Stiviano denies. He insists that that's what she thinks, that he has an "evil heart," to which she replies, "I don't think so. I think you have an amazing heart, honey, I think the people around you have poison mind, and have a way of thinking."
At that point Sterling - born to American Jewish immigrant parents as Donald Tokowitz seemingly tries to defend his views by putting them in an international context, singling out how blacks are treated in Israel.
Sterling: "It's the world! You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs."
Stiviano: "So you have to treat them like that too?"
Sterling: "The white Jews, there's white Jews and black Jews, do you understand?"
Stiviano: "Are are the black Jews less than the white Jews?"
Sterling: "A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent."
Stiviano: "And is that right?"
Sterling: "It isn't a question we don't evaluate what's right and wrong, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.587665
"When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don't really have to do anything, you just let them talk," the president said earlier Sunday.
Jenoch
(7,720 posts)AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)It wasn't terribly long ago that the Democratic Party still had a bit of a right-wing, most of it in the South, even as many Democrats leaned left.
Cha
(297,249 posts)Despite a June 26, 2006 Los Angeles Times article, detailing the Donald T. Sterling Charitable Foundation's pledge to spend $50 million on a site on the eastern end of Downtown Los Angeles to provide services for Los Angeles' homeless population, nothing has been built. According to an LA Weekly article from February 19, 2008, critics were skeptical that the homeless center would ever be built, and surmised that Sterling bought the property purely for its real-estate value. A follow up article from the LA Weekly states that the foundation has yet to even start attempting to deliver on its promises but continues to run full-page ads trumpeting its pledge in the LA Times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Sterling
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)After watching a large portion of DU fall over themselves in order to stick their nose up Zimmerman's asscrack, the big heap of people who think Natives should STFU about things that offend them, the occasional bout of frothing antiziganism, and of course the mind-boggling hate often directed towards Arabs, and well... Seems to be plenty of room for bigots of all flavors, at least among the common democrat. Elected ones seem to restrain themselves to anti-Arab hate.
Raksha
(7,167 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Clearly, his dominant background is Asshat.
TexasTowelie
(112,204 posts)"was."
alp227
(32,025 posts)"Donald Sterling a Democrat" is a right wing anti progressive smear that originated in DailyCaller.com. see this thread on DU http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024881451
& the reply #33 in this thread. right wing falsehoods have positively NO place on DU.
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951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Where white actresses are scared to do intimate interracial scenes with black males because these racist DINO a-holes are lurking around Hollywood waiting to black list them just ask Julia Styles what happened to her career after Save the last Dance. Just the nature of the business, most are racists, many are pedophiles, even more are DINOs.
What really confuses me is that fact this racist Jewish man was openly going out with a mixed race woman who is black and mexican.
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alp227
(32,025 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)An NBA team owner donating to a former NBA star's campaign? Imagine that!
MineralMan
(146,316 posts)You're wrong. He's not a Democrat, but that doesn't seem like a reason to hide your post. As several other posts on DU have shown, he's a registered Republican.
I am embarrassed that Donald Sterling is a Democrat.
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Jenoch
(7,720 posts)It was not the Daily Caller however. Thanks for posting the results of the jury. There's no point in deleting my post now, my mistake.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cha
(297,249 posts)And, is that even true about Israel?
Culture Schmulture, Sterling..
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Hey Donald Sterling this is the world we live in now2014 get over it
2:29 PM - 26 Apr 2014
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Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)There are those who like to exploit it in such a way to make it seem as it is the entire nation. Basically, it would be like taking the words of that pig Sterling and acting as if he represented the US in any major way.
Cha
(297,249 posts)that matched his own to justify to his own racism to his gf. She was not letting him off the hook.
Thanks Behind the Aegis
Raksha
(7,167 posts)Yeah, there are racists in Israel. And no, it isn't the whole country. But there are those who will say such attitudes are typical not just of Israelis, but of Jews in general--Ashkenazi Jews especially. It all plays into a certain toxic stereotype I'm sure I don't need to explain to you.
merrily
(45,251 posts)For him, I bet it's not about being better than only "black" people; it's about being better than everyone who is not like him.
I haven't been following this, but I bet he says things about poor people of every group, including poor white American Jews, as well. And I bet the only people he really respects are people who made even more money than he did.
I'd boycott his team, except that I already boycott all sports (not on any principle, just not especially interested)
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Some 130,000 Ethiopians, most of them Jewish, live in Israel. The community experiences higher poverty and unemployment rates than the rest of the countrys Jewish population. In the past decade, the birth rate among Ethiopian-Israelis has declined by at least 20 percent. Advocacy groups now claim this decline is the result of a birth control regimen forced upon Ethiopian immigrant women.
According to an article in Haaretz, an Israeli news source, one Ethiopian immigrant said that the doctors who injected her claimed that people who frequently give birth suffer. While it is possible, if highly unlikely, that doctors genuinely had the womens health in mind when they forcibly injected them with contraceptives, there is no excuse for depriving women sovereignty over their own reproductive choices.
Israel has acknowledged the issue (without admitting any wrongdoing) and has vowed institutional changes in healthcare for immigrants. By decree of Israels health minister, gynecologists have been ordered not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment. Still, intense scrutiny should be applied by womens groups and international organizations to make sure these changes are implemented in full. Moreover, more attention must be paid to the plight of vulnerable African immigrants around the world.
That Israel should allegedly engage in this activity is particularly shocking, considering the practice was widely used by the Germans throughout the Shoah. While the scale and effects of these operations cannot be compared, Israels implicit intent to limit burdensome (read: undesirable) portions of the population recalls the dark eugenics experiments of World War II.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/
The first step in dealing with institutional racism is recognizing it exists.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)They're still members of DU, in fact.
Go figure.
JI7
(89,250 posts)WatermelonRat
(340 posts)was a 3 month birth control shot. The pushback wasn't so much against the idea that it was wrong, as it was against the sensationalist portrayal of it as a mass Nazi eugenics project.
Not too long ago a pair of Likud MK's helped incited race riots against Africans in south Tel Aviv, resulting in a nice wave of vandalism, assault, and arson as the Jews of those neighborhoods fell on the Africans in order to "preserve Israel's Jewish character," thereby demonstrating htey have no idea what that phrase means.
There's also the creepy ass desert prison for African asylum-seekers, and the plan to deport them en masse to Uganda "unofficially," mening with no protection from either Israel or Uganda (which isn't first on any refugee's list, else they'd be going south rather than north, one imagines.)
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Their immigration is strictly limited by quotas, their religious traditions are disrespected (to the point that they're often forced to officially "convert" to their own religion in order to marry) and in general they're treated as second class.
So yeah, he came by his racism honestly.
Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)They don't even have to be as repulsive as Sterling.
Cha
(297,249 posts)Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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Chuck Todd asks Pres. Obama about Sterling: "I don't think I have to interpret those statements for you. They kind of speak for themselves"
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Behind the Aegis
(53,959 posts)When you nail it, you nail it!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)which is cool
Skittles
(153,164 posts)yes INDEED
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)Raksha
(7,167 posts)DeSwiss
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Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)¡ʎuunɟ ʎɹɹɹɹǝʌ ˙ɐɥ ƃuıʞɔnɟ ɐH
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)well it's not as bad as syndrome?
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)Do you think she carried a small recording device on her? His wife is suing her for the money he spent on her...How does he even have a girlfriend if he is supposed to be married? Strange story...but yeah...she nailed him.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Its interesting to find out how this happened and who leaked it.
JI7
(89,250 posts)and i think he has cheated on her many times throughout their marriage.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)him with black dudes. He was telling her to cut it out, because being cuckolded by a black dude is just beyond the pale (pun intended).
Clearly this dude don't like black folk.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)And adds to what is already here.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)he is absolutely right on that statement, I met a Black guy in Virginia that lived in Israel, he told about how the police in
Israel act when they see blacks in public, how they can be humiliated if they don't have the right documents with them.
I'm actually surprise that no one has ever come forward with this.
randome
(34,845 posts)Anything that divides people into 'us' is a 'club' of bigots.
I am an equal opportunity denigrator of organized religion.
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AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)but this is a problem that is not reported on enough or they've done a marvelous job in ensuring negativity about
how blacks are treated in Israel do not get out.