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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:07 AM Apr 2014

Can Americans Be Convinced to Care About Torture In Our Name?

http://www.alternet.org/world/can-americans-be-convinced-care-about-torture-our-name



It’s mind-boggling. Torture is still up for grabs in America. No one questions anymore whether the CIA waterboarded one individual 83 times or another 186 times. The basic facts are no longer in dispute either by those who champion torture or those who, like myself, despise the very idea of it. No one questions whether some individuals died being tortured in American custody. ( They did.) No one questions that it was a national policy devised by those at the very highest levels of government. ( It was.) But many, it seems, still believe that the torture policy, politely renamed in its heyday “the enhanced interrogation program,” was a good thing for the country.

Now, the nation awaits the newest chapter in the torture debate without having any idea whether it will close the book on American torture or open a path of pain and shame into the distant future. No one yet knows whether we will be allowed to awake from the nightmarish and unacceptable world of illegality and obfuscation into which torture and the network of offshore prisons, or “black sites,” plunged us all.

April 28th marks the tenth anniversary of the moment that the horrors of Abu Ghraib were made public in this country. On that day a decade ago, the TV news magazine "60 Minutes II" broadcast the first photographs from that American-run prison in “liberated” Iraq. They showed U.S. military personnel humiliating, hurting, and abusing Iraqi prisoners in a myriad of perverse ways. While American servicemen and women smiled and gave a thumbs up, naked men were threatened by dogs, or were hooded, forced into sexual positions, placed standing with wires attached to their bodies, or left bleeding on prison floors.

Thus began America’s public odyssey with torture, a story in many chapters and still missing an ending. As the Abu Ghraib anniversary nears and the White House, the CIA, and various senators still battle over the release of a summary of a 6,300-page report by the Senate Intelligence Committee on Bush-era torture policies, it’s worth considering the strange journey we’ve taken and wondering just where we as a nation mired in the legacy of torture might be headed.
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Can Americans Be Convinced to Care About Torture In Our Name? (Original Post) xchrom Apr 2014 OP
I think a lot of Americans either silently approve of it or just don't care. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #1
We need prosecution on those that ok this newfie11 Apr 2014 #2
Most Americans are too self absorbed.. elias49 Apr 2014 #3

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
1. I think a lot of Americans either silently approve of it or just don't care.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:18 AM
Apr 2014

If enough people really cared, Bush,Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. would have already been tried for their crimes and Guantanamo would have been closed a long time ago. Too many people here feel that all Muslims are to blame for 9/11, and anything we've done to them was justified payback. That's the way it appears to me, anyway.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
2. We need prosecution on those that ok this
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:51 AM
Apr 2014

From the top on down. Those that committed the torture need to be prosecuted also. Bullshit on just following orders!
The problem is our government from the top down refuses to do it!
No country will stand up to this one.

It is a very sad blight on my country and as far as I know still going on!

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
3. Most Americans are too self absorbed..
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 07:52 AM
Apr 2014

and I take no pleasure in saying that. Since the Patriot Act installed a bogey-man in everyone's closet, I think we've moved more and more towards an 'us vs them' mentality. You can only hold your breath so long.

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