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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:43 PM Apr 2014

The Rude Pundit: One Line Exposes the Entire Pile of Bullshit the NRA Is Selling

The annual convention of the National Rifle Association this past weekend in Indianapolis was the usual Fellini-esque freak parade of intellectual dwarves, geeks, and cripples. It featured Pasolini-esque wallows in sadism, like dominatrix Sarah Palin, with a small, silver vibrator set on "Ultragasm" running in her snatch, let the world know that no one's got as big a swinging dick as she does, supporting waterboarding and guns in schools, condemning, oh, shit, yeah, right there, "clownish, 'Kumbaya'-humming, fairytale-inhaling" liberals. This is not to mention the Argento-esque hellscape that Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's chief executive, painted with virgin blood, a place where only the nobly beweaponed can survive.

Also the convention featured the debut of a new ad for the NRA titled, "Do you still believe in the good guys?", a question that seems like a dare.

#t=85

The blatant troll bait features three people - let's call the white dude "Bearded Bear," the black dude "Safe Negro," and the white chick "School Secretary." The ad is filled with the boring-ass blather you've come to expect: There's bad people who want to rape your face while burning the Constitution. But here's some good people who want to make everyone into good goodniks with some tough love and guns, motherfuckers, guns. Which side are you on?

And then we get to the line. Safe Negro says, "It takes a special kind of backbone to reject the world that surrounds you." Then Bearded Bear says, "To sign your name where everyone can see it."

That last phrase there made the Rude Pundit sit up and look around the empty room to ask if everyone heard what he just heard. An NRA ad saying that you're a pussy if you don't let people know what you stand for?

So there it is, as plain as the screen you're reading this on. The NRA just told everyone to believe in something that they themselves do not believe at all. Really, Wayne? Really, Bearded Bear? "Sign your name where everyone can see it"?

See, the Rude Pundit seems to remember that, right after the Supreme Court's 2009 democracy-murdering Citizens United decision, part of which allowed political groups keep their donor names secret, Democrats tried to pass the DISCLOSE Act, which would have created at least some minimal disclosure about who is buying elections. One of the biggest opponents was the NRA, which feared all kinds of crazy shit, like that it would have to turn over member lists to the government and, more importantly, "disclose top donors on political advertisements."

But wait, one might think. Shouldn't you "sign your name where everyone can see it"? By its own words, the NRA is an organization that is financed by cowards, people who without backbone to say it's them. It is merely a shill for gun manufacturers. It's a giant con game that exists to enrich a few people while demanding worshipful obeisance from politicians and members. What that line in the ad demands is that you, good, loyal NRA card-carrier, you should go out there and proselytize for the gun cult. You should put your name out there so that, say, the Walton family and Chinese gun factory owners, perhaps, don't have to.

The culture war the NRA says it wants is just a cover for a power-grabbing sham and a means to make sure that Wayne LaPierre gets the best combovers in the business. The fact that the organization can so nakedly lie means, of course, that it knows its members just don't care.

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The Rude Pundit: One Line Exposes the Entire Pile of Bullshit the NRA Is Selling (Original Post) meegbear Apr 2014 OP
the NRA lobbied the politicians it had leased for the current term to prevent the CDC from... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #1
"Sign your name where everyone can see it"? 2naSalit Apr 2014 #2
Or maybe the transparency of the rest of us knowing if you're a gun owner and how many you've got? calimary Apr 2014 #12
I'm sure you're right about that. 2naSalit Apr 2014 #14
Its members - and supporters too cheap to pay dues - are mostly ignorant, Hoyt Apr 2014 #3
Just another part of the gun based anchor, voting American to the bottom. nt onehandle Apr 2014 #4
!!!!! Rude Pundit... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #5
I read the news this morning about... TRoN33 Apr 2014 #6
I don't understand how some liberals STILL donate money to the NRA Johonny Apr 2014 #7
Anyone who supports, or apologizes billh58 Apr 2014 #8
They always give some bullshit excuse like "I only do it to join a gun club" type crap. nt Logical Apr 2014 #11
They don't etherealtruth Apr 2014 #17
I'm a dues paying NRA member. aikoaiko Apr 2014 #20
LOL, do you even pay attention? nt Logical Apr 2014 #24
Yes, the RKBA is doing fine. aikoaiko Apr 2014 #25
Your silly NRA stance is like some idiot saying they send money to the RNC.... Logical May 2014 #26
Yes, Wayne and others in the NRA are odious. aikoaiko May 2014 #28
Lol, keep justifying it. Your love of guns obviously ranks higher than your love of...... Logical May 2014 #30
Just as some people's hatred of guns hurts democratic causes. aikoaiko May 2014 #31
Wow, you still trying to justify it..... Logical May 2014 #33
Yes I did think about it aikoaiko May 2014 #34
Did not address ONE of the points I made. You choose to support a group that.... Logical May 2014 #36
Simple question for you to answer..... Logical May 2014 #37
Technically NRA dues do not support political efforts aikoaiko May 2014 #38
I give up if "conflicted" is your description of your NRA support. Bye. nt Logical May 2014 #39
I guess I said it before - I love the Rude Pundit. The way he uses words gives me hope Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2014 #9
Where are the NRA defenders? nt Logical Apr 2014 #10
Are there really NRA defenders here? bvar22 Apr 2014 #13
Yes, there are NRA defenders billh58 Apr 2014 #15
Post 20? oldhippie Apr 2014 #23
"To sign your name where everyone can see it." billh58 Apr 2014 #16
No surprise Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #18
Wow. The Rude Pundit doesn't understand metaphor. aikoaiko Apr 2014 #19
"Where everyone can see it" quaker bill Apr 2014 #21
Like I said, its a metaphor. aikoaiko Apr 2014 #22
Bullshit! nt Logical May 2014 #27
Quakers do stuff "where everyone can see it" quaker bill May 2014 #40
Ok then respond to this post with the names of your Quaker membership. aikoaiko May 2014 #41
Wrongo. 99Forever May 2014 #29
He's a professor of drama and creative writing. I'm guessing you don't want to infer he doesnt stevenleser May 2014 #32
Guess all you want. aikoaiko May 2014 #35
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
1. the NRA lobbied the politicians it had leased for the current term to prevent the CDC from...
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 12:56 PM
Apr 2014

"It is merely a shill for gun manufacturers..."

It was sometime in the mid-nineties when the NRA lobbied the politicians it had leased for the current term to prevent the Center for Disease Control from researching gun-violence as a public health issue that I finally realized they are not in fact, a safety organization as they claim, but rather a narrow-interest lobbying PAC dedicated in part, to "preventing scientifically grounded judgments about which approaches – from gun-control measures to permission-to-carry laws – are likely to work."

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
2. "Sign your name where everyone can see it"?
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:06 PM
Apr 2014

Is he talking about writing his name in the snow in yellow?

Seriously, folks... just another form of weenie-waving.

calimary

(81,297 posts)
12. Or maybe the transparency of the rest of us knowing if you're a gun owner and how many you've got?
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 06:50 PM
Apr 2014

Sign on the dotted line of the gun registration form? That it, NRA? 'Eh? Hello?

As I expected. Only crickets need answer.

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
14. I'm sure you're right about that.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 08:27 PM
Apr 2014

I was just being snarky. But then, their whole game plan is based on fear so... make their believers fearsome and they win.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Its members - and supporters too cheap to pay dues - are mostly ignorant,
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 01:08 PM
Apr 2014

white/right wingers. Gun lovers - like Zimmerman, Dunns, Lanza, miltias, Stand Your Ground advocates, toters, hoarders, and worse - are a serious threat to our country

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
6. I read the news this morning about...
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 02:18 PM
Apr 2014

the 8-year old boy literally fired semi-auto rifle over the heads of pedestrians. The witnesses reportedly that boy were laughing while shoot the bullets. This boy found it funny when pedestrians ran for their lives. This is how NRA want to have all over United States.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
7. I don't understand how some liberals STILL donate money to the NRA
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 02:53 PM
Apr 2014

when they so clearly take that money to openly attack liberal politicians and get great joy verbally abusing them at their conventions. Listen to Sarah Palin's speech and explain to me why anyone on DU would give money to these people. These people hate you and more to the point don't respect you at all.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
8. Anyone who supports, or apologizes
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:36 PM
Apr 2014

for the right-wing gun lobby and the NRA is neither a Liberal nor a Democrat.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
17. They don't
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:31 PM
Apr 2014

Anyone that would donate to a right-wing lobbying group is neither a liberal or a Democrat

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
20. I'm a dues paying NRA member.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:02 PM
Apr 2014

Its pretty simple -- they effectively fights the right to keep and bear arms.

Yes, its overrun by right-wingers, but they mostly stay on topic of gun laws, safety programs, and endorsing candidates who are better on RKBA.

Of course the NRA can be vile and stupid. I'm now a voting member and I vote for more reasonable minded board members. Not Ted Nugent.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
26. Your silly NRA stance is like some idiot saying they send money to the RNC....
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:41 AM
May 2014

So they can "change" them.

You are either totally clueless about the shit your leader Wayne says on a weekly basis or just maybe agree with his statements about Obama.

Your love of guns must override your love of the progressive movement,

Little hint for you, you can be pro guns and not support the fucking NRA!

Here is a message from Wayne, the guy you send money to, does this sound like a pro-gun message? LOL!


All across America, everywhere I go, people come up to me and say, “Wayne, I’ve never been worried about this country … until now.”

Not with anger, but with sadness in their eyes. “I’ve never been worried about this country … until now.”

We’re worried about the economic crisis choking our budgets and shrinking our retirement. We’re worried about providing decent health care and a college education for our children. We fear for the safety of our families — it’s why neighborhood streets that were once filled with bicycles and skateboards, laughter in the air, now sit empty and silent.

In virtually every way, for the things we care about most, we feel profound loss. We are sad not because we fear something IS going wrong, but because we know something already HAS gone wrong.

It’s why more and more Americans are buying firearms and ammunition — not to cause trouble, but because we sense that America is already IN trouble.

We know that, sooner or later, reckless government actions and policies have consequences. That when government corrupts the truth and breaks faith with the American people, the entire fabric of our society — everything we believe in and count on — is in jeopardy.

Political dishonesty and media dishonesty have linked together, joined forces, to misinform and deceive the American public. Let’s be straight about it — the political and media elites are lying to us.

They lie bills into law. They pass legislation they haven’t even read, yet eagerly defend on television. Health care policies, economic policies, foreign affairs all seem repeatedly reckless.

The IRS is now a weapon. A weapon to punish anyone who disagrees with them, and that means every one of you.

They try to regulate our religion. They collect our cell phone and email data. They give us Solyndra, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Obamacare, massive unemployment, a debt that will choke our grandchildren and one executive order on top of another.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
28. Yes, Wayne and others in the NRA are odious.
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:59 AM
May 2014


Unfortunately, anyone who has any handgun, a semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine, and a shotgun with more than 5 rounds has the the NRA to thank.

The NRA will change -- they weren't always like they are.

And I am a Democrat and I vote Democratic.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
30. Lol, keep justifying it. Your love of guns obviously ranks higher than your love of......
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:42 AM
May 2014

Democratic causes.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
33. Wow, you still trying to justify it.....
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:14 AM
May 2014

Dems should ignore the gun issue, it hurts us.

That is very different than you sending money and supporting a group that spends millions to defeat GREAT democrats because of one single issue!

So the perfect dem who is not in favor of open carry or wants background checks on private sales runs against a right wing nut and is endorsed by the group you support! And you are fucking ok with that.

Have you put 5 fucking minutes of thought into this?


aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
34. Yes I did think about it
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:17 AM
May 2014

Did you notice that Pres Obama didn't mention gun control during his first term and waited until after the election to speak out on it. And because of that he was elected twice.

That's because of the political pressure that was placed on him in part by the NRA.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
36. Did not address ONE of the points I made. You choose to support a group that....
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:29 AM
May 2014

Try's to defeat great liberals over ONE topic which is your most important one!

Send me a PM, we can have an open discussion!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
37. Simple question for you to answer.....
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:44 AM
May 2014

Do support the NRA endorsing and funding a GOP right wing nut over a liberal democrat because the liberal democrat wants background checks on all private gun sales? Because that is what your membership to the NRA is supporting!

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
38. Technically NRA dues do not support political efforts
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:47 PM
May 2014

I would have to donate to the NRA ILA to find those political efforts.

Nevertheless I do support them saying which candidate is better at RKBA but I don't support them funding republicans.

I'm a bit conflicted over my NRA membership.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. Are there really NRA defenders here?
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 06:51 PM
Apr 2014

I've seen some gun owners defending owning guns,
but never read a post defending the NRA.
Admittedly, I've never visited the gungeon,
so I could have missed it.


I DID go to the link Rudie posted for the Palin performance at the NRA convention.
While she was predictably showcasing her ignorance about....well, everything,
her voice seemed even more shrill than I remember.

The comments were worth the trip.
It appeared that the responses were about 10 to 1 AGAINST.

Comments:

h2o4ever:
Irony defined: Giving a speech about the evils of gun free zones, while attending a pro-gun convention which has banned attendees from bringing their own guns.

----------------------
I suppose this means she's negotiating another book deal.

----------------

Mike :
Sarah Palin once had the respect of many Alaskan but when she quit her job as the Alaskan governor she lost respect from many of us Alaskans. Her word is no good here in Alaska anymore...once branded a quitter always a quitter!

-----------------

tom:
George Bush and Sarah Palin are responsible for Obama becoming President. Never would have happened without those two.

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Wanda:
Wow I would have thought she would have a better understanding of baptism.

------------------------------

Bob:

The military's own investigation into torture revealed, among other things, that anal rape by gun barrel , broom stick, shovel handle, etc, was a common tool used at camps for loosening up suspects for interrogation. I suppose this cochina considers this their First Communion.
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Excerpts From Comment Section of:
Palin: If I were president, 'Waterboarding is how we'd baptize terrorists'
http://news.yahoo.com/palin-waterboarding-nra-speech-205827272.html


billh58

(6,635 posts)
15. Yes, there are NRA defenders
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 11:44 AM
Apr 2014

on DU. They defend the NRA by spouting the very same inane marketing screeds about the virtues of guns everywhere for anyone who wants one. They repeat NRA/ALEC "talking points" ad nauseam ("guns don't kill -- people do," etc.) and froth at the mouth over any mention of sensible gun regulation. They support politicians who have the almighty "A" rating from the NRA, and brag about doing so. They support Zimmerman's actions as if he were a hero instead of a cold-blooded murderer.

Is there support for the NRA and the right-wing gun lobby on DU? Of course there is, and you don't need to look very hard to find it.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
16. "To sign your name where everyone can see it."
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 08:25 PM
Apr 2014

Except it's okay to keep the fact that you own guns a secret, and carry them concealed because you're ashamed of being a coward. Sure, go ahead and sign your name to a secret agenda to overthrow the government in order to "water the tree of Liberty" with someone else's blood.

NRA, right-wing gun lobby asswipes...

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
19. Wow. The Rude Pundit doesn't understand metaphor.
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 09:12 PM
Apr 2014

Its one thing to join a group and voluntarily decide to let people know you did and its another for others to receive a list of membership.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
21. "Where everyone can see it"
Wed Apr 30, 2014, 10:44 PM
Apr 2014

seems a good bit more inclusive than "friends and family". "Everyone" would seem to include the NSA....

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
40. Quakers do stuff "where everyone can see it"
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:31 PM
May 2014

and not metaphorically. If you really believe in what you are doing, who knows about it does not matter. We have had Meetings infiltrated, it generally stands a bagging rights among us. Quakers do not carry guns, but if we did, it would be in the open.

I would say that I am a "proud owner of no guns" except that I do not find pride in such matters. I am not the "proud owner" of a lawnmower either, but I do have one, and I am fine with anyone knowing it.

From Dr. Strangelove: The only point in having a doomsday weapon is to let everyone know you have it, otherwise it has no deterrent effect...

The statement is only a metaphor in the minds of those who feel they must keep a secret. Real pride keeps no secrets.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
29. Wrongo.
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:04 AM
May 2014

It's the plain truth. The NRA is an organization of punk bullies too freakin' cowardly to own their bullshit.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
32. He's a professor of drama and creative writing. I'm guessing you don't want to infer he doesnt
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:09 AM
May 2014

understand metaphor.

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