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(50,566 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)because they were "insulted" by having to accept and celebrate MLK Memorial Day...
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I forgot when it was, but it was a public holiday when I was a kid in Texas. Always gave me the creeps. No one got a day off to celebrate Juneteenth, though...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and it was passed because Whites were disgruntled about a day off for Martin Luther King Memorial Day!
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)I think you've posted that before.
I wonder - do they honor the dead Americans that died at their celebrations too? Or just their former country men?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I likely mentioned this item relating to my taunting of a Nazi on a public radio show. He thought he had him a good little white girl, since I sounded open and all and he was so worried about race mixing and said colored women were all trying to entice him, as if they had magic powers.
Hey, freedom of speech, doncha know...
So I told him he sounded like a rapist to me and he got all huffy.
Strange how that works, you know, 'she made me...'
They had phone lines you could call to listen to the current week's two minute hate recording. Back then, it was blacks, white 'race traitors' and the Jews. Oh, and Democrats, Catholics and Communists.
A common theme was we're gonna 'ship all the blacks back to Africa.'
HAHAHA!
I remember when they tossed Columbus Day and combined all the presidents to one day, and installed the MLK, Jr. holiday.
Juneteenth was not official. But it was acknowledged by media and stores, and picnics were held in the city parks:
Juneteenth, also known as Juneteenth Independence Day, Freedom Day, or Emancipation Day, is a holiday in the United States that commemorates the announcement of the abolition of slavery in the U.S. state of Texas in 1865, and more generally the emancipation of African-American citizens throughout the United States. Celebrated on June 19, the term is a portmanteau of June and nineteenth,[1][2] and is recognized as a state holiday or special day of observance in most states.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
Texas no longer celebrates Jefferson Davis' birthday, but does celebrate the Confederacy still. I'd hoped this was going to pass away. Since 'post-racial' America has entered our lives, it's all over...
I see above and searches they keep on adding more holidays to get even for MLK, Jr. Day. Sorry asses.
A few links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_United_States#Legal_holidays_by_states
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis#Legacy
Aren't they just sooo nice to the guy who promised to seize all black freedmen in states they invaded and return them to slavery, and hold their descendents in servitude forever?
What a winner! Thank you for rebranding 'states rights' to 'Tenthers', all of you Teabaggers, Paulibans and Birchers!
Regarding the elimination of Columbus Day, here's a sweet little tidbit:
Opposition to Columbus celebrations
...There are two main strands of this critique, which are interrelated. The first refers primarily to the indigenous population collapse and cruel treatment towards indigenous peoples during the European colonization of the American continents which followed Columbus's discovery. Some, such as the American Indian Movement, have argued that the responsibility of contemporary governments and their citizens for allegedly ongoing acts of genocide against Native Americans are masked by positive Columbus myths and celebrations. These critics argue that a particular understanding of the legacy of Columbus has been used to legitimize their actions, and it is this misuse of history that must be exposed. F. David Peat asserts that many cultural myths of North America exclude or diminish the culture and myths of Native Americans.
These cultural myths include ideas expressed by Michael Berliner of the Ayn Rand Institute claiming that Western civilization brought "reason, science, self-reliance, individualism, ambition, and productive achievement" to a people who were based in "primitivism, mysticism, and collectivism", and to a land that was sparsely inhabited, unused, and underdeveloped..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Day#Opposition_to_Columbus_celebrations
That list of how Europeans did it better, I emboldened there, sans the criticism of 'collectivism.' is pretty much in theory the same as what I learned in college about why it all had to be done to follow theory. I objected strongly in my all white class taught by the YSA. It didn't sit well with me, that genocide is okay for the greater good. Later, I left the SWP in the seventies when they started talking about they would be the 'ruling elite' when the revolution came.
Overthrowing the USA government was discussed for whatever was from both sides of the landscape and they appear to be playing pattycake with each other nowadays.
Ain't it all precious. It makes me feel all:
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Not knowng any better when I first moved down South, I showed up for work that day, surprised to find the building closed.
since it was a paid holiday, did not bother me much.
1000words
(7,051 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)They fought for the USA - and the Confederates fought for the Confederate States.
From your article -
JMHO - but to me it was AOK for those women in the North to miss their loved ones and to have wanted to honor them for losing their lives in a very noble cause while the US was still at war with the Confederate States of America. And then to continue on with that tradition. And it was a nice gesture to include all Americans (bringing the Confederate States of America soldiers back into the arms of America -forgiving them) when it became a formal holiday.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)Cause they're all in my store gearing up for the storms headed this way. I'm on lunch away from these crabby, ill mannered people.
stage left
(2,962 posts)The Civil War is over, y'all. If you want to play dress up, go to a renaissance fair. And if you want to honor the war dead, do it on regular Memorial Day. Our Northern brethren were kind enough to include us in that observance despite everything.
Ok, that was three. Or Four.