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A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:20 PM Apr 2014

Pics of the Tornado damage in AR. juxtaposed against Google Earth shots.

A section of Rte. 64 in Vilonia, AR;


Google Earth of the same section;



A housing development not far away;


Again, the satellite shot;


Google Maps link to Velonia, Ar.


Slide show from Weather.com;

http://www.weather.com/news/tornado-central/photos-tornado-outbreak-midwest-deep-south-20140427

The forces involved are just mind boggling. Here's hoping for their safety and recovery.

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Pics of the Tornado damage in AR. juxtaposed against Google Earth shots. (Original Post) A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 OP
Geezus! Tornadoes scare the crap out of me..... Little Star Apr 2014 #1
Yeah...me too. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #2
My nephew drives an 18 wheeler all over the country.... Little Star Apr 2014 #6
Care to say who he drives for? A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #14
I've been pretty close to one and it was scary. Skidmore Apr 2014 #32
They scared the crap out of my girlfriend, she moved out of OK when they had an outbreak sakabatou Apr 2014 #3
It's practically Lovecraftian in its horror, if you ask me. arcane1 Apr 2014 #5
Give me my hurricanes malaise Apr 2014 #12
That's the thing, Malaise..... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #15
True but we are already prepared for the hurricane malaise Apr 2014 #18
Yup. My mom and dads house in Miami was a victim of Andrew A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #19
MIL's house in Cutler Ridge was like match sticks - as was the entire neighborhood malaise Apr 2014 #20
Then if you know the area..... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #21
Damn!! malaise Apr 2014 #30
I was on a team that inspected libraries in South Dade after Andrew. Sometimes buildings mfcorey1 Apr 2014 #29
Yep post-Gilbert will remain with us to our graves malaise Apr 2014 #31
Completely leveled all those homes. lpbk2713 Apr 2014 #4
Holy crap! truebrit71 Apr 2014 #7
Tornadoes are immensely and immediately devastating. SheilaT Apr 2014 #8
Seeing the damage in person is a shocking experience. laundry_queen Apr 2014 #11
I was in Joplin a few weeks after that big one in 2011. A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #16
Yes. SheilaT Apr 2014 #22
.... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #23
I was a 2naSalit Apr 2014 #28
All that damned open land just by that neighborhood. nytemare Apr 2014 #9
God, in his mercy... FiveGoodMen Apr 2014 #10
Wow. nt DanTex Apr 2014 #13
.. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #17
I live in Tornado Alley and they both fascinate and terrify me Horse with no Name Apr 2014 #24
I in no way mean to make light of your fears or your situation..... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #25
In tornado alley on the Arklatex border? Horse with no Name Apr 2014 #26
AGAIN...I understand your concerns A HERETIC I AM Apr 2014 #27

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
1. Geezus! Tornadoes scare the crap out of me.....
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:28 PM
Apr 2014

My thoughts are with all those poor people. What a nightmare.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
2. Yeah...me too.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:32 PM
Apr 2014

I've been close to a couple, but never THAT close.

I drive an 18 wheeler and driving onto one at night is something that really worries me. There have been a few times when I've been driving where there was debris flying sideways across the road. I have no idea if there was a tornado near or not, but I sure as hell don't want to end up in a ditch!

Anyone that is in danger of being in the path of one has my complete and utter sympathy. I hope anyone in such a situation has a way to get and stay safe.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
6. My nephew drives an 18 wheeler all over the country....
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:56 PM
Apr 2014

Hard enough job without tornadoes. I have to say he loves his job though.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
32. I've been pretty close to one and it was scary.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 06:47 AM
Apr 2014

I just had come home from the hospital with my newborn son and my little daughter. My brother burst through the door of the trailer I was renting at the time and yelled that I needed to get the kids into his car so he could get us to safety. I looked up and out the bedroom window to see a funnel cloud ripping through the field to the west of the trailer. It travelled to the edge of the field and lifted up and came back down across town about a block from my mother's home. Just trashed that area. I remember thinking that there was a train sound and struggling in the moment to understand why there was a train since the railroad had torn out the tracks a few years before. Funny how your mind processes information in times of crisis. Don't care to meet up with another funnel cloud but since I live on the prairie, the chances are good that I might just do so before I die.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
15. That's the thing, Malaise.....
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:43 PM
Apr 2014

They can and do predict the storms (as I'm sure you are aware), and even that they'll be severe, but individual Tornadoes?

You're shit out of luck!


I agree, having been a Floridian on and off most of my life; Give me a Hurricane.

Thing is, Tornadoes are spawned on the arms of Hurricanes too! So we're all screwed.

malaise

(269,025 posts)
18. True but we are already prepared for the hurricane
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:50 PM
Apr 2014

That said - when nature decides to show who is boss, we are mostly helpless.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
19. Yup. My mom and dads house in Miami was a victim of Andrew
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:53 PM
Apr 2014

I have some shots my mom took in the days after. I'll have to scan them and put them up one of these days.

The forces of both wind and water just stagger the mind, honestly.

And as we head into yet another Hurricane season, You stay safe down there, sweety.

malaise

(269,025 posts)
20. MIL's house in Cutler Ridge was like match sticks - as was the entire neighborhood
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 10:00 PM
Apr 2014

but my sis and her family's home was one of two town houses standing in their Kendall complex.
She was convinced that by following my advice about cracking windows at various stages of the hurricane, she and her neighbor had very little structural damage. Of course Gilbert had destroyed Jamaica four years before Andrew.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
21. Then if you know the area.....
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 10:05 PM
Apr 2014

their house was just SW off the corner of 87th Ave (Galloway Road) and 112th St. (Killian Dr.)

The house was a late 1950's build and the concrete hard hardened like granite. What blew off was a new section of roof my dad had installed. I was there during the construction and it was up to and over code. Strapped and bolted to the concrete risers, etc.

It ended up 65 yards across the back yard. 20,000 pounds plus of 2X4's, plywood and shingles, thrown like it was a paper airplane.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
29. I was on a team that inspected libraries in South Dade after Andrew. Sometimes buildings
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 05:38 AM
Apr 2014

were standing but the inside was like a wild wind had destroyed it. Doors on safes were ripped off. Remnants of what I saw stay with me all the time.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
4. Completely leveled all those homes.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:41 PM
Apr 2014



One moment life goes along just like every other day, next moment ...


My thoughts go out to the victims and their families and friends.


 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. Tornadoes are immensely and immediately devastating.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:39 PM
Apr 2014

The damage a good one does can remain visible for years afterwards. Trees get stripped of leaves and branches in a way that is unmistakable. I currently live in NM, used to live in KS, my son went to college in Tulsa, so I've driven by plenty of tornado-devastated landscapes in my time.

The only good thing is that as awful as they are, the damage will end abruptly. One house totally destroyed, the very next one untouched. That doesn't make the total loss person feel any better, but that's how it happens.

I think there was a time when most people didn't really understand how destructive they are, but now with the news coverage that can occur anywhere, we get these incredible pictures and video, and we pretty much all get it.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
11. Seeing the damage in person is a shocking experience.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:30 PM
Apr 2014

There was an very strong F-4 (3km/hr away from F-5) that passed close by my house when I was 12. My parents drove around the damaged area at the crack of dawn the next day (my mom worked a couple days a week at a different office that was in the path and she wanted to see how the office was) and it was unbelievable. Really hard to understand unless you've seen it.

27 years later, if you drive by those same areas, you can still see broken trees sticking out of new growth.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
16. I was in Joplin a few weeks after that big one in 2011.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 09:47 PM
Apr 2014

The word "denuded" came to mind.

I hauled a couple of damaged cars from Joplin that were sold through junkyard auctions. It was if they had been picked up and thrown by a giant, which in essence, they were. Sand and grit and leaves and twigs stuck in every crevice and nook and cranny.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
22. Yes.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:42 AM
Apr 2014

Greensburg, Kansas, was destroyed by an F-5 tornado on May 4, 2007. I'd driven through that town a number of times, travelling between Kansas City and Santa Fe. Never even paid any attention to it. I'd of course seen the news coverage and pictures of the aftermath. My next time going through Greensburg was about two months after the tornado. When I crested the low hill to the east of town I simply could not take in what I was seeing. I stopped my car and took pictures. There was nothing but neat piles of rubble, signs asking for medical volunteers, and a couple of other things. It looked as if the tornado had happened just a week before.

I continue to make that drive every so often, so I've watched the rebuilding of that city. The population according to the 2010 was about half (777) of what it had been 10 years earlier. But the fact that the city didn't just totally disappear is remarkable. I last drove through a year ago. You can still recognize the tornado damage of the trees, and if you pay attention you'll notice that every single building is brand new. I always buy gas there. It's the least I can do.

2naSalit

(86,643 posts)
28. I was a
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:55 AM
Apr 2014

relief worker right after that one ripped up that poor town. Never forget what it looked like... and I lived up around the lakes for years and saw quite a bit of tornado damage and danced around a few but I never saw anything as devastating as what happened at Greensburg. It looked like some giant, mythical pencil sharpener had descended on every tree and crudely ground each down to a height of about 6 feet. Even stout brick buildings were mere rubble.

The relief workers' camp was at some park/athletic field, about the only place on the edge of town where it appeared the twister lifted off the ground, and I was glad to have sturdy hiking boots because there was so much shrapnel-like pieces of heaven-knows-what in the grass that it was kind of scary. I think I met half the police force of Kansas while I was there as they kept a security detail going 24/7 with all departments in the state doing rotation.

And there was a line of dump trucks hauling off rubble that went all the way to the horizon all day from sun-up to sundown... it was totally surreal.

I was thankful for the long drive home after my tour was over... having been a semi driver for many years it kind of helped me touch base before I got back to the cabin.

I pray for everyone in that region, I look at the pictures and the weather map with my hand over my mouth... just unbelievable.



Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
24. I live in Tornado Alley and they both fascinate and terrify me
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:55 AM
Apr 2014

I do have a storm shelter....but honestly, when one bares down on you in the middle of the night, the chances of getting everyone up and out and in are pretty slim, and we do have alternate plans.

So we have sleepless nights while the storms pass....days this week where we were told that we were going to be in the middle of all of this...and luckily at the last minute, they veered off.

Tonight, my brother is in the way of these storms...and we begin the vigil until they pass and we know everyone is safe and accounted for.

The storms are becoming monsters...the ones that I heard about tonight in Birmingham left me speechless.

People around here are actually starting to have plans for these--this is a new thing...generally the plans were just to get to an area without windows but it seems that just isn't enough with these monsters and now the majority of the ones around here are rain wrapped so you won't see them until they are right on top of you.

I have a friend who has started putting life jackets and bicycle helmets on the kids during the warnings. Not a bad idea.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
25. I in no way mean to make light of your fears or your situation.....
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:14 AM
Apr 2014

but you are more likely to be killed by execution by the state, than you are by the forces of a serious weather event.


http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/injury_and_death_statistics/Documents/2014-Injury-Facts-43.pdf

Please, PLEASE don't think for a moment that I am ignorant of your concerns - I live in Florida, I know what severe weather is like.

But if nothing else, you should be able to take some solace...some comfort in knowing that you and your family will be OK.

All the best

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
26. In tornado alley on the Arklatex border?
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:23 AM
Apr 2014

I live in a fairly highly volatile area and there have been several deaths and lots of destruction within a 50 mile radius.

I don't live in a state of being terrified but I do have a fairly high degree of concern. We have had tornadoes here in the last year and one of the largest tornadoes to ever hit the state was a stone's throw away.

I agree not all of Texas is this volatile. However, for some reason, we are.







A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
27. AGAIN...I understand your concerns
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 02:29 AM
Apr 2014

But if the mortality rate from severe weather events was so high as to be a major threat.....



how many people do you think would be living near you?

Look....I know it is scary, but you'll be fine. You must think and know that.

If you don't or can't, you have to move.

Plain and simple.

Edited because of dumb

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