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"Iowa GOP Senate Candidates Vow to Block Judges Who Won't Follow 'Biblical' Law" (Original Post) shenmue Apr 2014 OP
Ten bucks says none of them can define what that even means, specifically and in detail. arcane1 Apr 2014 #1
Do none of these idiots realize that this would mean the xtian equivalent of sharia law? truebrit71 Apr 2014 #2
That's the thing... Change the name to that, since it is very similar, and let's see how many agree Xyzse Apr 2014 #6
Of course they realize that. Mariana Apr 2014 #15
Oath of office has nothing about the bible in it. hobbit709 Apr 2014 #3
That's true. rsdsharp Apr 2014 #14
Biblical law ........... i.e. PumpkinAle Apr 2014 #4
Excellent BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #11
the spelling is suspiciously British Bucky Apr 2014 #20
Thanks for posting, haven't seen that rebuttal to fundies in a while. It's very good... n/t freshwest May 2014 #21
Van der Plaats continues to make me shake my head in disbelief. Skidmore Apr 2014 #5
Religion can do scary things to people. nt. Mariana Apr 2014 #16
The money the Koch hand out makes them do scary things, too. n/t freshwest May 2014 #22
These idiots really have an issue with the First Amendment and separation of church and state Gothmog Apr 2014 #7
They're the kinder, gentler Boko Haram. It's coming. n/t freshwest May 2014 #23
some folks won't rest till this country is a theocracy. spanone Apr 2014 #8
American Taliban. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #9
Translation:We will block Judges appointed by a Democrat n2doc Apr 2014 #10
Not quite, 2 of the 3 judges justgamma Apr 2014 #13
Last hurrah for Iowa Dominionists betterdemsonly Apr 2014 #12
I love this state and too many people make the mistake of assuming that Skidmore Apr 2014 #18
This is the first video I saw of Obama was in Iowa in 2007. His last stop in 2012 was in Iowa. freshwest May 2014 #24
Yes, and it's their religious freedom to impose their religion on the rest of us. Bucky Apr 2014 #17
does that mean stoning's are back in? William769 Apr 2014 #19
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. Ten bucks says none of them can define what that even means, specifically and in detail.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

And an extra five bucks says even if they tried, they would not agree

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
2. Do none of these idiots realize that this would mean the xtian equivalent of sharia law?
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:50 PM
Apr 2014

What would they say if a Muslim candidate were to say that they would block judges that won't follow Sharia law?

Don't they realize the door swings both way...

Fucking dolts...

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
6. That's the thing... Change the name to that, since it is very similar, and let's see how many agree
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:54 PM
Apr 2014

To it.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
15. Of course they realize that.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:26 PM
Apr 2014

Assholes like these have no problem whatsoever with the concept of government enforcing religion - as long as it's their religion being enforced.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
3. Oath of office has nothing about the bible in it.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:51 PM
Apr 2014

Constitution, yes. but nothing about the xian version of shariah.

rsdsharp

(9,177 posts)
14. That's true.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:09 PM
Apr 2014

But Article VI clause 2 goes further:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

These clowns plan to take an oath to support the Constitution, while promising to their supporters that they will violate it, by imposing a religious test on judicial nominees.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
4. Biblical law ........... i.e.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:53 PM
Apr 2014
I know this has been posted before, but certainly seems apropos.........

Laura Schlessinger is a US radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that as an observant Orthodox Jew, she holds that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned in any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a US resident, which was posted on the Internet.

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord (Lev. 1 ). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21 . In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev. 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev. 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I do look forward to your enlightenment regarding the questions that puzzle me. Then I shall pass them along to others who may appreciate your moral leadership.

Sincerely.

(Name withheld by request)

http://www.halexandria.org/dward210.htm

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
5. Van der Plaats continues to make me shake my head in disbelief.
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:54 PM
Apr 2014

When I was in graduate school, I worked in an internship that required me to come into contact with him upon several occasions. He always came across as a caring and even handed individual who cared much about people with disabilities and the issues they face. During the past few years, I have found myself trying to square my real life experiences with the cartoon cutout Teabagger kingmaker he has become. Sad to see.

Gothmog

(145,243 posts)
7. These idiots really have an issue with the First Amendment and separation of church and state
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:19 PM
Apr 2014

You are seeing a large number of conservatives who want to erode the wall of separation between church and state

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. Translation:We will block Judges appointed by a Democrat
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:41 PM
Apr 2014

If a Republican Appoints them, then of course they are a-ok.

Also 'Biblical' Law= Whatever the Koch Bro's want.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
13. Not quite, 2 of the 3 judges
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:32 PM
Apr 2014

that were ousted because they voted for marriage equality, were nominated by a Republican. I think it means that before ruling they must check in with the crazies.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
12. Last hurrah for Iowa Dominionists
Mon Apr 28, 2014, 04:53 PM
Apr 2014

At the recent Iowa GOP convention, none of Van Der Platt's dominionists were reelected to the Iowa GOP Central Committee, and the endorsement of Doma was replaced with a resolution declaring government should not be involved in marriage, in the 1st district.

In addition reforms are being implemented by the Iowa Gop to make it easier for people who don't have time to attend caucuses to still have a vote. That reduces the influence of survivalist, homeshoolers, and other dominionists like Van Der Platts.

We are not an extreme state, but unfortunately the structure of the caucuses made it easier for extremists to dominate them. Ernst is the shoe in and the ones he was happy with are marginal. Most of these people are not natives and since the reforms were implemented thankfully many of them are leaving the state for greener pastures.

http://www.bleedingheartland.com/diary/6898/weekend-open-thread-big-iowa-gop-changes

I think the trend toward people like Huckabee, Robertson, and Rick Santurom is over and you will see much more mainstream republicans winning the GOP caucuses in the future.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
18. I love this state and too many people make the mistake of assuming that
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:43 PM
Apr 2014

Iowa is conservative. Iowa has an extremely progressive history and is full of good people with lots of decency and common sense. Every now and then I post this link as a reminder of the great progressive history of the state.

http://councilbluffscommunityalliance.wordpress.com/iowa/iowas-progressive-history/

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
24. This is the first video I saw of Obama was in Iowa in 2007. His last stop in 2012 was in Iowa.
Wed May 7, 2014, 03:29 AM
May 2014
This is the first video I saw of Obama was in Iowa in 2007:



Barack Obama talks to the crowd in Manchester, Iowa about exactly what the war in Iraq is costing the American people.

Last stop in 2012, the last time he'll ever run for office, was in Iowa:


What Obama said about Iowa:



Obama Cries In Final Speech - Last and Final Campaign 2012 Presidential Election



As sentimentality goes, President Barack Obama hosting the last campaign event of his political career in Des Moines, Iowa, is hard to top. The Hawkeye State launched the then-junior senator from Illinois to national prominence. And there is a movie script-like quality to having such a historic political trajectory emerge out of the frosty cornfields.

Speaking just steps from his 2008 caucus headquarters on Monday evening, it seemed at times as if the magic hadn't faded.

"I came back to ask you to help us finish what we started because this is where our movement for change began," Obama declared. "To all of you who've lived and breathed the hard work of change: I want to thank you. You took this campaign and made it your own ... starting a movement that spread across the country.

"When the cynics said we couldn't, you said yes we can. You said yes we can and we did. Against all odds, we did," he said.

Wiping the occasional tear from his eye, and looking over a crowd of 20,000, Obama concluded with the same story that he told on the last day of his '08 campaign: about the origins of his signature "fired-up-ready-to-go" chant. The arc of his first term in office was seemingly complete.


President Obama's Full Speech from His Final Rally - Des Moines, Iowa




Sorry, I couldn't pick out just one. The angle with the dark background is the one I remember, just saw the full version so I added it here. Thanks, IA.


Bucky

(54,013 posts)
17. Yes, and it's their religious freedom to impose their religion on the rest of us.
Tue Apr 29, 2014, 01:34 PM
Apr 2014

And if you deny them their First Amendment right to impose their Biblical values on us, you're just like the CommieNazis

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