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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/03/29/143509/robert-zimmerman-says-trayvon.htmlexcerpts:
"... telling the station that his son had no choice but to kill Trayvon or risk being beaten to death."
Of course. Using a gun is the only option when a teenager half your weight starts pounding on you.
"Robert Zimmerman (...) said the family is in hiding and cant go to the doctor or do anything that requires using their own names."
So George Zimmerman has an untreated broken nose and untreated cuts on the back of his head?
niyad
(113,319 posts)"Robert Zimmerman (...) said the family is in hiding and cant go to the doctor or do anything that requires using their own names."
so there will be no evidence of x-rays or doctor visits. what a load of codswallop.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)sadbear
(4,340 posts)(no photos, x-rays, doctor examinations, etc.) what is a jury supposed to conclude?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)The video released yesterday was the first empirical evidence as to the state of Zimmerman's injuries. There is more, which has not been released by the State Attorney.
Also there has been no statements as to what tests were performed or if if pictures were taken. Lots of claims nothing was done, but the truth is we just don't know. There should be an EMS report, but it too has not been released. Yesterday's video will not be the only evidence as to the extent of any injuries Zimmerman may or may not have had.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:20 PM - Edit history (2)
But we do know the essential fact: Zimmerman had a gun and was following Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman admitted that he was following Trayvon in his 911 call. And we know he had a gun because he shot Trayvon.
Even if Trayvon did attack Zimmerman, it was Trayvon who was acting in self-defense.
What would you do if a man with a gun was following you? You'd run. Zimmerman said that Trayvon was running.
That is what we know, and it is enough for probably cause in my opinion.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Maybe they are afraid to take on the NRA and the gun lobbyists. What a sorry state of affairs. This is not really about gun ownership but about whether Zimmerman was acting in self-defense. When there is the slightest doubt, that has to be decided by a jury.
LaurenG
(24,841 posts)I saw none when he got out of the cruiser.
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)Photos of Zimmerman at the police station that night have been released. There are no injuries. No broken nose. No smashed up head. Nothing. He looks just as he did before the incident.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475
Mother Jones has complete coverage.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2012/03/what-happened-trayvon-martin-explained#policevideo
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)video is at the ABC link I posted. Not a cap.
Here's another DU thread about the case.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/101719027
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Taking them is standard procedure. If they were done the State Attorney has them
Lex
(34,108 posts)And his actions were based on irrational fear--because of his racists views--and were unjustifiable under the law (despite what the local police may believe).
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)pokerfan
(27,677 posts)His wounds healed before the EMTs could stitch him up.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)and of course, you wait for them to hit you before you draw that gun that you know you have but they don't know you have.
And all this is especially true if you have a prior accusation of a violent crime and know it.
can't find the sarcasm sign, but SARCASM.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's just not the way I think.
otohara
(24,135 posts)was hollering like a scared child?
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Movies aside, it's really, really hard to kill someone with only your fists and feet, especially if they can run away or shout for help--unless Zimmerman is saying this was a cage match and Martin was some kind of killer kick boxer?
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)and reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death is the legal standard.
That said, it does not appear that said threshold was met.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Then I giess the lying asshole must have come to the sudden realization that the reality of being a wanna be vigilante didnt match his fantasy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Even after dispatch told him NOT TO PURSUE the kid, he did...strange thing to do when you 'fear for you life' imo.
monmouth
(21,078 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)worknot work in a federal case.
Rex
(65,616 posts)of misinformation! Look how well that worked for GUSH!
Iggo
(47,558 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)They change the story so often
Maybe Zimmerman was afraid of being beaten by the bottle of ice tea. That;s enough to open up with the 9mm