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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Fri May 2, 2014, 03:55 PM May 2014

The Rude Pundit: German Exchange Student Learns What America Is All About



That sign up there was to remember Diren Dede in his hometown of Hamburg, Germany. That other symbol is the Turkish flag, indicating that his family came to Germany from Turkey. The kids are friends of his in a soccer club. There was a march to mourn Dede because the 17-year old had been shot and killed this past Sunday. More precisely, the teenager had been killed in Missoula, Montana, which is in the United States. Dede had been attending high school in Missoula as part of an international student exchange program. More precisely, the man who shot and killed the teenager is claiming that he was protecting his home, that Dede had entered his open garage and that gave him the right to kill Dede.

Which might be true, except for a detail or two. See, Markus Kaarma had gotten paranoid after his home had been robbed twice. He said he stayed up at night with a gun waiting for intruders. And then he did this: "On the night of the shooting, Mr. Kaarma and his partner Janelle Pflager left their garage door open, and Ms. Pflager left her purse in the garage in order to bait intruders, she told police. They set up motion sensors and a video monitor, prosecutors said. When the sensors went off just after midnight and they saw a man on the monitor screen, Mr. Kaarma went outside and fired a shotgun into the garage without warning several times."

You got that, right? Kaarma set a trap that caught Dede, and, with no threat at all to his life, Kaarma killed Dede (no easy joke will be made here about "Kaarma" and "karma." Have fun if you need to). Kaarma was arrested and released on bail. He will plead not guilty because Montana law says that you can gun down someone if you "reasonably believe" you might be harmed by an intruder.

Except that no one knows why Dede entered the garage. He might have been there to rob it. He might have been there asking for help. Either way, Kaarma was in absolutely no danger. He chose to shoot Dede after seeing him on a monitor. He fired four times with a shotgun.

Dede's family and others in Germany are wondering what the hell is wrong with a nation that is so paranoid and gun addicted that this could happen, that the perpetrator actually has a chance to go free. "America cannot continue to play cowboy...I didn't think for one night that everyone here can kill somebody just because that person entered his backyard," Dede's father said, obviously not knowing much about the United States. The German consulate has gotten involved in asking for justice for Dede. In a basic misunderstanding of how Americans operate, an official said, "The use of a gun in this case seems to us out of proportion."

According to his friends, Dede had loved his time in this country. At a charity soccer match in his honor, a banner was hung that read, "Our brother is dying while America is looking on." Yeah, they found out what this country is all about. Lesson learned.

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/05/german-exchange-student-learns-what.html

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The Rude Pundit: German Exchange Student Learns What America Is All About (Original Post) meegbear May 2014 OP
The right-wing billh58 May 2014 #1
The right wing gun culture....... llmart May 2014 #6
*applause* That was Brilliant LittleGirl May 2014 #9
You are, of course, correct billh58 May 2014 #11
+1. Very well put. (nt) Paladin May 2014 #12
Not just the eyes of the world Old Codger May 2014 #19
The ones that really mean something to Rude WilliamPitt May 2014 #2
Tweeted. Sick inside that this happened, esp. In my hometown. LiberalLoner May 2014 #3
Shared on FB (NT) The Wizard May 2014 #10
i did barbtries May 2014 #17
Ugh. Aldo Leopold May 2014 #4
This is really a shame. I feel badly for everyone involved. closeupready May 2014 #5
Saddened and sickened by stories like this. bearssoapbox May 2014 #7
what you said. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #8
The U.S. is the armpit of the universe.......... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #13
... progressoid May 2014 #14
American is a country that has been rendered PSYCHO by its violent right wing extremist ideology. nt Sarah Ibarruri May 2014 #15
Gun people. 99Forever May 2014 #16
remember that Japanese kid? noiretextatique May 2014 #18
That is hardly what "America is all about" aikoaiko May 2014 #20

llmart

(15,555 posts)
6. The right wing gun culture.......
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:15 PM
May 2014

are the kind of people who don't give two shits what other countries think of us. Those of us who want to live in a better country and make the culture of our country something we can be proud of around the world have got to be the ones to take charge and do whatever it takes to take back our country from these idiots.

I can't believe how far we've sunk in the eyes of the world in my lifetime. It's a damn shame.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
11. You are, of course, correct
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:22 PM
May 2014

in all that you say, and I join you in wanting to make this a better country for the generations who will follow us. If we leave it up to the right-wing gun lobby, street violence and fear will be this era's enduring legacy for those who follow.

We can't allow that to happen. I urge every caring Liberal Democrat to support a gun control organization in any way that you can today, and make a difference.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
19. Not just the eyes of the world
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:12 PM
May 2014

But in the eyes of the majority of the citizens of this once great country...

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
2. The ones that really mean something to Rude
Fri May 2, 2014, 04:08 PM
May 2014

are the ones he doesn't cuss in, so people can comfortably pass it on.

Pass it on.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
7. Saddened and sickened by stories like this.
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:20 PM
May 2014

Meanwhile the teabaggers, rethugs and right wingnuts continue with the "OBAMA IS THE REASON THE WORLD IS LOSING RESPECT FOR AMERICA" crap.

Damned, disgusting, low information, lying shitheads.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
8. what you said.
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:47 PM
May 2014

How the hell do we get rid of these brownshirts? Ugh, god...


Ugh.

:too enraged and nauseated to talk:

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
13. The U.S. is the armpit of the universe..........
Fri May 2, 2014, 06:52 PM
May 2014

I am in my mid-50s. If I were a younger man I would seriously look for other places to live.

While I wouldn't want to be a "quitter" (like Sarah Palin) and run away from the challenges of restoring the U.S., I seriously don't think there is any hope here. We are going to remain a seriously divided country. On one side of the divide you have people who believe in fairness, equality, opportunity, science, decorum and civil respect. On the other side you have people who are hateful, want to deny anyone else a chance at getting ahead, believe they are Christians, love their guns and their money more than anything else, hate facts, especially science, but worship the uber-wealthy.

I cannot imagine the anguish of this young man's family. He came to America as an exchange student. He was excelling in school, sports, was well liked, etc. I'm sure the family was somewhat glad he was in rural America away from the big cities and the crime in those cities. As well this young man German of Turkish descent.

We don't know why he was in that garage. Was it to burgle? We don't know. The facts suggest the murderer set a trap and then lay in wait to kill anyone who dared come onto his property and thought the castle doctrine would protect him. Even if this young man was thinking of burgling this home, based on what we know he had no weapons and at no time did he act in an aggressive or threatening manner to the murderer other than he was on his property.

I was an exchange student to Europe at about the same age. My parents would have been devastated if I had been killed based on these facts.

I think the murderer is not going to get off so easily. I was raised in Wyoming and our neighbor to the north, Montana, is not that much different. People there generally have honor. I think this man is going to have a very difficult time using the castle doctrine as defense on these facts.

I am the first to admit we are country full of criminals. Statistically violent crimes are down but we are still a society in crisis. Why the murders? Why the burglaries? Why the rapes, etc.? Our focus is on prosecution, incarceration and revenge. We place little focus on asking why? What is wrong with out society?

This wasn't the case 40 years ago. What has changed? Is it the increase in the population of African-Americans? Statistically not. Is it the increase in the population of the poor? Hard to tell.

If we are ever going to stabilize and/or reverse the trends towards crime that then drive the nut cases to think they can act as vigilantes we need to ask the question why? Until we are honest about that we are doomed to failure. Conservatives don't want to know that answer because it will destroy their world view.

I suspect the reasons are tightly linked to poverty, declining real wages for workers, poor education, a sense of hopelessness, racial and other divisions, the concentration of wealth, etc.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
18. remember that Japanese kid?
Sat May 3, 2014, 02:39 PM
May 2014

Killed for ringing the wrong doorbell on Halloween? The legal excuses for killing people is appalling. America is sooooo fng great

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