And no one has ever forced me to buy broccoli.

You want a French fry? You'll damn well buy it fried in healthy oil.

Said I would be broccoli boarded if I did not comply!

I am a vegetarian, so I do resent paying taxes that pay for the food stamps that keep farmers growing food for animals they slaughter.

...everyone else should be vegetarians?
If we suddenly all went vegan tomorrow, what do you think would happen to the cows, pigs and chickens that are used the meat industry? They'd be slaughtered and probably extinct. Is that what you what? Because I'm not just being cockamamie crazy.

the standing Militia to be required certain Items by a said time AND he required them to keep certain things at all times.

A government taxing citizens and spending that money on a government program is not the same thing as requiring an individual to buy something from someone else.

I don't "buy broccoli" for people on food stamps just because I pay taxes.

The federal government can tax and spend. What it arguably can't do is require you to buy broccoli from some corporation.

He is a simple man in the archaic sense of the word.

but we hand over farm subsidies to people who produce all kinds of things that many of us don't want to pay for.

Personally, I love broccoli and wish more people bought and ate it. It's good for you.

But, we take tax money and buy all kinds of things from private enterprise, including military support services. That's even worse than telling people, here is list of insurance companies, pick one and pay. I have no choice as to whether I pay for farm subsidies with my tax money. I have no choice as to whether I pay tax money to private companies to guard our embassies.

You pay for Medicaid with your tax money.

You pay for Medicare with your tax money.

And when you go to the hospital, you may well be paying the expenses of the emergency care ward where people who do not have insurance go. Further, if you are injured or ill and cannot pay your doctor's and hospital bills and go bankrupt, your neighbors and others who do buy insurance pay for your care. So you are forcing them to pay more for their insurance.

If we can't have single payer, then everyone should be required to have insurance.

But we also pay for other people to be able to buy broccoli. And that's the way I like it.

I want my neighbors to be able to have broccoli if they like it. It's healthy. And the health of one person affects everyone.

from the national budget accordingly than requiring the individual to directly spend their budget money toward a private for profit enterprise.

The former is a natural function of governmental work and oversight, the latter is a dysfunctional, corruptive intrusion.

Every year Congress debates and votes on the budget, they don't do insurance reform every year.

The captured customers/peoples' money will only be used against them as a more enriched and empowered for profit "health" insurance industry uses those funds to bribe and lobby future Congresses to chip away at any good the new health law has in it benefiting the people.

However if broccoli should be compared to anything it should be health care, not for "profit health insurance," tying the two together as the same dooms any chance of universal single payer coverage ever coming to fruition.

Thanks for the thread, JDPriestly.

Your point is well taken however.

nor has anyone come buy and fished the money for it out of your pockets or account.

Your post tax dollars are yours.

This argument is fucking dim.

But they will pull it from my healthy, running bodied hands if they are hungry and need it.