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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat May 3, 2014, 01:01 PM May 2014

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rebuts Maher: Donald Sterling’s age is no excuse for his racism

By Arturo Garcia
Saturday, May 3, 2014 0:39 EDT

Basketball hall-of-famer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar poked a hole in a rhetorical question Real Time host Bill Maher has brought up regarding racism as a generational issue during an interview regarding Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling on Friday.

“Do you cut any slack to anybody who’s 80 and a racist?” Maher asked. “You hear this a lot: ‘Well, he’s old.’ The same thing you hear about, ‘Well, our founding fathers, that was the era they lived in.’ Do you think that’s an excuse, or [that] we should stop using it as an excuse?”

“I don’t think we can use that as an excuse,” Abdul-Jabbar said. “His 80 years include the 1936 Olympics, Joe Lewis versus [Max] Schmeling, Jackie Robinson, the integration of the NBA.”

Maher did not mention that, in the past, he asked a similar question while defending Paula Deen last year over her own use of racist terms. At the time, Maher said, the slur “ni**er” was “just a word. It’s a wrong word. She was wrong to use it. But do we always have to make people go away?”

On Friday, Maher also seemed to question the character of Sterling’s reported girlfriend, V. Stiviano. Stiviano has denied being responsible for leaking the recording of Sterling asking her not to associate with Black men at his team’s games.

“She says there was not a sexual relationship, or any sort of romantic relationship, and yet she took four cars and an expensive apartment [from Sterling],” Maher said. “I feel that makes her worse than a whore. A whore, that’s an honest transaction.”

Abdul-Jabbar politely declined to follow Maher’s lead, saying he did not know enough about Stiviano’s relationship with Sterling to comment. However, in an April 28 column for Time magazine, the former Los Angeles Lakers great said people should be outraged that whoever did leak the recording “will probably get a book deal, a sitcom, trade recipes with Hoda and Kathie Lee, and soon appear on Celebrity Apprentice and Dancing with the Stars.”

At the same time, Maher and Abdul-Jabbar found common ground in criticizing what they have described as a feeling of “self-congratulation” permeating the popular condemnation of Sterling’s remarks years after he was taken to court for his discriminatory business practices against Blacks and Latinos.

“For over 10 years, we’ve known about his antics, and some of the things that he’s done” Abdul-Jabbar said. “He’s done some pretty horrible things to people having nothing to do with race.”

Watch the discussion, as posted online on Friday, below.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/03/kareem-abdul-jabbar-rebuts-maher-donald-sterlings-age-is-no-excuse-for-his-racism/

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar rebuts Maher: Donald Sterling’s age is no excuse for his racism (Original Post) DonViejo May 2014 OP
You NEVER give them slack because they are indoctrinating their beliefs into the other generations Baitball Blogger May 2014 #1
^^THIS^^ Tom Ripley May 2014 #5
you cut an old person slack for being out of touch if they say the word "colored" instead of dionysus May 2014 #2
Yeah, Sterling's 80 gratuitous May 2014 #3
Or maybe he's just trying to make the show interesting ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #4
Sorry, I've found racism profoundly boring for 50 years now gratuitous May 2014 #10
There is nothing Maher said that was catering to racism ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #11
and Abdul-Jabbar is 67. IOW, about half a generation younger. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #8
A.. Yeah! It makes it worse.. they've had all this life to figure it out and they've Cha May 2014 #6
If a woman can be at all blamed, Bill Maher will be there. CBGLuthier May 2014 #7
BOOM! So true. n/t Gormy Cuss May 2014 #9

Baitball Blogger

(46,733 posts)
1. You NEVER give them slack because they are indoctrinating their beliefs into the other generations
Sat May 3, 2014, 01:26 PM
May 2014

Last edited Sat May 3, 2014, 05:26 PM - Edit history (2)

in their households.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
2. you cut an old person slack for being out of touch if they say the word "colored" instead of
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:28 PM
May 2014

"African American" because they're not up on modern terminology; there's no malice there. you don't cut an old person slack for being an outright racist, because even back then people knew racism was wrong.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Yeah, Sterling's 80
Sat May 3, 2014, 03:36 PM
May 2014

So how would we possibly expect him to remember the 1960s? Or the 70s? Or the 80s? Or the 90s? Or the 00s? Heck, we're not even half way through the teens! Cut him a little slack, huh? It's only been 50 years for Sterling to undo the bigotry he learned so well.

Maybe Maher's getting too old.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
4. Or maybe he's just trying to make the show interesting
Sat May 3, 2014, 04:39 PM
May 2014

Going with the obvious answer doesn't always make for interesting conversation.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Sorry, I've found racism profoundly boring for 50 years now
Sat May 3, 2014, 06:55 PM
May 2014

And I don't think the audience that finds it interesting is one worth catering to.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
11. There is nothing Maher said that was catering to racism
Sat May 3, 2014, 08:49 PM
May 2014

The author or whomever is reading into this article more than what's there is desperate to spin something out of absolutely nothing. Maher was pretty clearly being sarcastic. I'd suggest someone that unable to detect snark stop watching the show, or their gonna be aggrieved quite a bit.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
8. and Abdul-Jabbar is 67. IOW, about half a generation younger.
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:44 PM
May 2014

That's why Abdul-Jabbar pulls no punches on this. He remembers.

Maher's libertarian edge is really apparent in segments like that one.

Cha

(297,293 posts)
6. A.. Yeah! It makes it worse.. they've had all this life to figure it out and they've
Sat May 3, 2014, 05:20 PM
May 2014

come up with Nothing.

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