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JFN1

(2,033 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:44 PM Mar 2012

Zimmerman's people can clear things up in a hurry -

just post some ACTUAL - not photoshopped - pictures of Zimmy's bloody clothes, broken nose and consequential black eyes, head wound to the back of his head that needed stitches but somehow speed-healed on its own so it didn't need stitches, and grass stains on his back. Since he was beaten to within a metaphorical inch of his life, there should be plenty of bruises and other visible trauma, too, so post pics of those, as well.

If the video is "too grainy" then release some pics that are NOT grainy...after all, since this is Zimmy's main defense, certainly you took pictures of Zimmy's injuries - so where the fuck are they? Hmmm?

I'll be over here, waiting...

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Zimmerman's people can clear things up in a hurry - (Original Post) JFN1 Mar 2012 OP
Here;s the problem, The cops DIDN'T TAKE ANY PHOTOS, by their own admission. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #1
But surely Zimmy's family did, you know, to document it. JFN1 Mar 2012 #5
There's nothing this family has done that comes anywhere near common sense. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #10
With all the lies why in the hell should I believe the man in the shadows DearAbby Mar 2012 #27
Or they're lying about not taking any pictures. nt bananas Mar 2012 #9
Why would they lie about not taking the photos? It would go a long way to turn Ecumenist Mar 2012 #13
Have a source for that? ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #12
The one time I got beaten-up, *I* took photos right away. Ian David Mar 2012 #2
Problem is you can't produce what isn't there to begin with. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #3
It's the police who are holding the evidence Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #4
If they had photos, they would have released them JFN1 Mar 2012 #6
Your A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y right, JFN1! If they had them, they would release them to take some Ecumenist Mar 2012 #11
Its the State Attorney, not the police at this point. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #14
Actually the video is pretty damaging and NOT grainy. Rex Mar 2012 #7
I agree. JFN1 Mar 2012 #15
Yes EPIC FAIL. Rex Mar 2012 #19
Cheap best buy shit... DearAbby Mar 2012 #29
He's using the repuglican playbook: lastlib Mar 2012 #18
Yes and I hope it all backfires. Rex Mar 2012 #22
Where's the medical records indicating he got his head wound stitched up? Who did the job? Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #8
IIRC, it was claimed he sought private medical care the following day ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #16
These are desperation moves. Zimmerman was treated on site and Rex Mar 2012 #17
They didn't say he received any stitches. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #21
So he didn't see a doctor for 24 hrs? And yes, there would be med records. uppityperson Mar 2012 #28
Let's say there are injuries chowder66 Mar 2012 #20
With a broken nose and a cut to the back of the head, one should have sought medical attention. appleannie1 Mar 2012 #23
No doubt! Can Republicans spell concussion? JFN1 Mar 2012 #24
At an absolute minimum, there'd be bandages from the EMTs jeff47 Mar 2012 #25
The fact that Trayvon had NO bruises EC Mar 2012 #26

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
1. Here;s the problem, The cops DIDN'T TAKE ANY PHOTOS, by their own admission.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:45 PM
Mar 2012

So, Good luck with the proof coming out.

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
5. But surely Zimmy's family did, you know, to document it.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Seems like common sense, to do so when you've fucking SHOT AND KILLED another human being...but, then again...

If there are no pictures, no doctor's or hospital reports, then there ARE NO INJURIES that can be demonstrably PROVEN.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
10. There's nothing this family has done that comes anywhere near common sense.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:53 PM
Mar 2012

His father continues to lie in the face of indisputible evidence.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
13. Why would they lie about not taking the photos? It would go a long way to turn
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:56 PM
Mar 2012

the tide in the favor.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
12. Have a source for that?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:56 PM
Mar 2012

I have seen that claim and counter claims by the State Attorney who is not releasing anything either

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
2. The one time I got beaten-up, *I* took photos right away.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:46 PM
Mar 2012

And if I had killed the dude who did it, I would have made sure those photos were taken by a credible, authoritative source that could testify under oath.



 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
4. It's the police who are holding the evidence
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:47 PM
Mar 2012

They won't release anything until after the investigation. Trayvon's family fought to have the 911 tapes released.

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
6. If they had photos, they would have released them
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mar 2012

due to the public pressure on them. Pics of Zimmy's injuries would take a lot of heat off Sanford PD, and would provide the cops a leg to stand on...

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
11. Your A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y right, JFN1! If they had them, they would release them to take some
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:54 PM
Mar 2012

of the pressure of their backs.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Actually the video is pretty damaging and NOT grainy.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:49 PM
Mar 2012

Just because Zimms lawyer says it is...does not make it so. I see NOTHING on Zimm, no green or red or black or blue. Just a guy, clean dressed and under arrest. That video hurts far more then it helps.

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
15. I agree.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:58 PM
Mar 2012

But Zimmy, his peeps, and the cops all want to have it both ways...and if they complain about grainy video, then let them produce something better. Clearly, they have nothing better, or we'd have already seen it.

Grainy Video Strategy = Epic. Fail.

lastlib

(23,238 posts)
18. He's using the repuglican playbook:
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:59 PM
Mar 2012

If you don't like the facts you have, make up some you do like.

Blather, rinse, repeat....

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
22. Yes and I hope it all backfires.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:06 PM
Mar 2012

I still cannot believe they tried such a stupid gambit. They must think average Americans are way too stupid to think for themselves! OR they believe most people are like them (Foxnews idiots).

Lost-in-FL

(7,093 posts)
8. Where's the medical records indicating he got his head wound stitched up? Who did the job?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:51 PM
Mar 2012

Someone needs to tell Zimmy's dad or the Sanford police to look deeper... see if they can pull them medical records from out of their collective asses.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. These are desperation moves. Zimmerman was treated on site and
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 02:59 PM
Mar 2012

released to the PDs custody. These lies coming from the Zimmerman camp only make him seem more of a liar and not less imo.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
21. They didn't say he received any stitches.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:06 PM
Mar 2012
Zimmerman's legal adviser Craig Sonner told CNN.

... by the time Zimmerman reached a doctor, "there was an option not to stitch it up because it had already started healing, is my understanding," said the lawyer, who has talked with his client only by telephone.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/30745375/detail.html#ixzz1qXAM7WRL


But if he did in fact see a doctor then there would be medical records. But some feel he didn't even see a doctor based on this lawyers remarks.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
28. So he didn't see a doctor for 24 hrs? And yes, there would be med records.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:15 PM
Mar 2012

liar liar pants on fire, more and more lies are coming out.
NOTE, I am NOT calling Life Long Dem a liar but Z's people.

chowder66

(9,070 posts)
20. Let's say there are injuries
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:06 PM
Mar 2012

if so, they do not appear to be as bad as indicated. He could have easily fallen down on his back and hit the back of his head on the ground. If his head was grabbed and banged while also having his mouth covered and held down, Trayvon would have had to have an extra arm or two. Z's head would have been difficult to grab (shaved and rainy) so you would think there would have been bruising on other parts of his face unless of course Trayvon used Z's nose as a handle to bang his head into the ground.

If there was a scuffle - the most likely scenario seems to be that Z tried to subdue him or something and when Trayvon tried to get away or fight him off that is where any injury would have occured but it does NOT look like Trayvon beat him bloody and battered him as the attack has been described.

Personally, Z looks in good condition as much as the cops that are with him in the video.

That guy who has defended Z, the anchor, kept bringing up how Z didn't drink when the question wasn't asked. He mentioned two or three times in the O'Donnell interview. I found that odd. Who knows if Zimmerman wasn't drunk before this happened? What if he had said injuries prior to the hunting of Trayvon?

on edit: maybe zimmermans dad saw the evidence of an old injury and zimmy jr said he got it in "said fight" with Trayvon. Hence the magical healing.

second edit: If there was a slight cut on the back of his head...could that not have been from shaving his head?

appleannie1

(5,067 posts)
23. With a broken nose and a cut to the back of the head, one should have sought medical attention.
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:07 PM
Mar 2012

Where is the doctor's report?

JFN1

(2,033 posts)
24. No doubt! Can Republicans spell concussion?
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 03:23 PM
Mar 2012

I wonder...with a nose job and a head wound, Zimmy should have been kept for observation overnight (according to my RN friend at my elbow BUGGING me what to type), as he could have had a severe concussion, skull fractures, TBI, or any number of other issues.

Sounds like Zimmy's "doctor" practices medicine the way Sanford PD practices law enforcement...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. At an absolute minimum, there'd be bandages from the EMTs
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:05 PM
Mar 2012

Even if we pretend the video is "grainy", it's pretty clear there isn't a bandage on Zimmerman's head where he supposedly needed stitches.

EC

(12,287 posts)
26. The fact that Trayvon had NO bruises
Thu Mar 29, 2012, 05:12 PM
Mar 2012

or abrasions on his hands or elsewhere that would have indicated a fight...anything on Zimmerman would be in question anyway...maybe he slipped in wet grass and fell and hit his head...who knows but him? I wouldn't believe anything coming out of his or his father's mouth.

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