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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy the Martin case can be about racism, regardless of Zimmerman's race/ethnicity
The history of certain groups, such as African Americans in this country mean that their lives are often valued less than others, no matter the race of the person that is making that judgment.
One of the arguments floating around DU is that this isn't a case of white on black racism if Zimmerman is considered Hispanic (which actually may be white, since Hispanic is not a race).
But that's not the point --in fact, it diverts from the point.
Nonwhites are often undervalued in this nation compared to whites. As if to add insult to injury, that prejudice often is present in the minds of the victims of discrimination. That racial minorities sometimes may judge themselves with the same harshness and unfairness that the larger culture holds. Furthermore, not only are nonwhites often undervalued by the culture at large, so are others who fall under the judgment of the larger culture for being "different" somehow.
So it's not just about race either (though the Martin case itself is). It's a similar thing when a woman thinks she cannot be president, it's a similar thing when someone who is disabled thinks they cannot have as full a life as another human being. It's a similar thing when someone in the LGBT community thinks that fulfillment of their dreams is somehow undeserved or doubtful because of their innate characteristics.
Surely, some people despite the prejudices of the society around them, think no less of themselves. But some people, at times, some people do. It's very human to sometimes internalize what those around you tell you, even when it's wrong.
But the point of America is to break down these prejudices and have everyone, everywhere be judged by not what they were born as, but what they did with their life.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)I suppose that the argument is that Zimmerman is half hispanic and hispanics are minorities in this country; therefore one 'minority' (which is a word I'm using from necessity and not because I like it) can't be 'prejudice' against another for some symantic reason. Truth is there's no reason that this isn't a prejudice crime. I know a man who's at least half black and he is the most prejudice person against black people that I know.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)I'm talking not only about the prejudice that Zimmerman had, but the prejudice that others had which allowed them to discount the value of Martin's life after this murder. The way he has been savaged in the media --as a way to justify his murder.
One of these prejudices is held by Zimmerman, but another important one is held by the society at large. Both need to be addressed.
CAPHAVOC
(1,138 posts)But trying to write a statute to prevent it next to impossible. Like telling you...Do not think about a Puppy. See what I mean. How do you write a law that will prevent it?
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)lighter or darker; hair was finer or straighter, ad nauseum.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)shows to one group and the face she shows to another is imaginary. I was trying to explain what the HUGE difference wold ahve been between the way that Zimmerman would have been treated if he had been black and done the EXACT same thing to a white UNARMED teen n the SOUTH?? There's a much better than 70% chance that he wouldn't make it to court. Apparently, although I cited a few WELL known cases, they seemed to feel that I was only speaking about my own personal experience. True I have family member that were "Mysteriously" killed after being accused of doing something that it turned out they didn't do.
The fact that our lives are not considered to be a valuable is ABSOLUTELY true.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and the assailant from white or any race to black, almost all of us believe the media coverage, police handling and smear campaign would've been completely different.
this country isn't at the place where all groups are valued equally. there are many individuals and many institutions within the country that do value people equally, but the dominant culture and many institutions still do not.