The spelling!

Zimmerman's lawyer claims this video is from 4 hours AFTER Zimmerman murdered Trayvon.

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

Well, one gets Paid to lie and the other doesn't necessarily.

OMG< He claimed it as 4 hours later REALLY??!! Wow, this thing is IMPLODING!!

noted that all the 911 calls came in after 1900... so why would the police camera be on a different time schedule than the police dispatch center?

Only some parts of Florida are one hour ahead of EST, but I don't think that would have any bearing. I could be wrong. Still, we're only looking at an hour difference - even if the camera was off, not four.

Pensacola and Panama City areas, hundreds of miles west of Sanford. A non-issue.

among the defenders of Zimmerman and the attackers of Trayvon, so that's appropriate.

Zimmerman's 1st degree murder of Trayvon Martin happened on February 26th.
Daylight Savings Time didn't start until March 11th, 2 weeks later.

Irrelevant anyway since #1 you lose an hour on the switch from Standard Time to Daylight Savings Time & #2 neither scenario could separate 4 hours from time of murder to time of Zimmerman's police station arrival.

John Lucas

as any we have received up to this point.

Sorry about that. Sarcasm is sometimes hard to detect in text.
I think it won't be long now until Zimmerman is forced to come out of hiding.
That police surveillance video was damning to the story he was trying to sell.
He will be charged & he will be convicted.
John Lucas

Maybe. That'll be up to a jury.

And with the area's demographics (82% white, > 9% Black, 11% Hispanic, Median Household Income-$49K) and a political climate of "decidedly conservative, business-oriented voter[s]", the jury will look far more like zimmerman than Trayvon.

I think defense and prosecution will both want this trial moved far from Orlando metro areas.

Miami or Tamp areas, perhaps.

You're the crim def atty, tell me your thoughts.

I want the trial right there based on the likely jury pool; but I'd pull every delaying tactic in my arsenal. I'd what everyone in the county good and tired of the "media circus" by time of trial.

If the trial has to be moved, I would try my best to stay out of metro areas like Miami or Tampa (too diverse a community) and try for as close to the Alabama/Georgia borders as possible, arguing that, despite this case receiving national attention, border counties have a more diverse media market that focus more on tri-states issues ... therefore, less case-related saturation for the jury pool.

But even with a favorable jury, this case is getting harder and harder to defend by the day.

But then, if I were the defense attorney on this case, I would donate all of my fees to the NAACP Defense Fund and/or the Urban League ... hoping the stench would soon fade.

Yeah, I have been to the border areas of FL/AL where the "red necks", as they are called, are in the majority.

Defense atty's would either like a quick trial or a delayed trial, as a tactic. I understand that.

I think this trial will be front page news in most of America wherever it takes place.

I agree, I'm not sure a major urban area would be helpful to this defendant in terms of jury pools, which would have more minority membership than in the Seminole county area, next to Orlando.

be looking to avoid "more minority membership" areas, since jury pools are selected from county-wide electoral rolls, that has the effect of diluting any minority representation, everywhere in the county. And those few that appear can easily be stricken, though I would just LOVE to find a Joe Oliver.

No ... I'd be looking for a higher probably of "red necks" and, since I am Black myself, good old white church ladies. LOL.

Thanks for the donation? NAACP or Urban League?

representing this guy. But I really doubt you would want to have those headaches no matter how much the pay is.

This guy will require an OJ type team of lawyers to defend, I think. The nation and other parts of the world would be watching.

Your hypothetical jury pool selection criteria for the defense is quite understandable, however.

I learned after my 1st year ... whatever I do with my time, I still have to shave every morning and kiss my wife and daughter a good day. I could look myself in the mirror, nor kiss my wife or daughter with filthy lips ... so, while everyone is entitled to competent representation, it doesn't have to come from me.

I think if the prosecution has all of these witnesses (who are White) on the stand who called 911 during the murder, the jury will be swayed by the folks representing that gated community.
Also remember that some in that community didn't approve of Zimmerman playing neighborhood cop.

I think the extreme level of coverup & police misconduct will overwhelm any of those potential biases.
When Zimmerman is captured & placed under arrest I'm 100% confident that will be his last day of freedom on Planet Earth.
John Lucas

O'Donnell would have a field day with this one.

Thanks for the detective work.

Because that video does not show a man who was in an altercation. There isn't a visible mark on him or his clothes.

Goddamn arrest better come soon.

"john" on the video talked a man wearing a red sweater. From that I would think that he wasn't allowed to change his clothes, or even take off his jacket in that police video.

The cop wiping his hand off, checking out GZ's head, the fake
looking examination of his jacket as if that had not been done
as soon as he was handcuffed. They know those cameras are there
taping their every move. Sorry I'm not buying it.

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But to what end? Why not stage it so he looked like he'd been in a fight? Would have only take a few minutes, have him roll on the ground and squirt him with a ketchup packet. I think it can also be interpreted as perfunctory - as if anyone would ever look at the video, which in their arrogance they never believed would really ever happen.

EMT's, neighbors, whomever that witnessed him immediately after and that would have been
impossible to plan and set-up. But I can imagine in the car on the way to the station ( about 34 minutes later)
they were plotting how to proceed knowing those cameras would be the first to video GZ. They were likely
getting feedback and instructions from Daddy Z. No way they pulled up knowing those
cameras were there and didn't perform the way they thought the fools who might view it later
would expect. They never expected the world would one day be viewing and analizing it frame by
frame.

So... let's rush him to the police station, film him uninjured, and... and... what?

DU absolutely thrives on conspiracy. Especially when something disagrees with the accepted narrative that "cops bad", not that this does.

I get it now, the cops are agents provocateurs...!!

which seemed weird and made room for speculations about both.

I mean ... How far is the police station from the crime scene? ... They could'a interviewed zimmerman in the back of the police car on the way to the station while the EMTs were dressing his wounds and laundering his shirt and pants!

Do I really need the sarcasm thingy?

and then wiped his hand on his own pants was wiping his butt, not his back.

His condition was diagnosed as "Standing in the Rain too Long After Shooting Black Kid Dead."

He looks amazing for someone that had his head bashed into the curb over and over! Looks like the cops let him walk imo.

Does this dude look like he was being severely beaten in the street 35 minutes prior?

Jesus, when will the Zimmerman Fan Club stop their bullshit. They're really exposing themselves as a bunch of straight out racist motherfuckers right about now.

So no beating head on sidewalk, I guess.

Zimmerman's defenders are in a deep hole, but they just keep digging.

All inside of forty minutes? It's perfectly normal and plausible and happens to people all the time!

Indeed, to say otherwise is to jump to conclusions and threaten the wrongfully convicted!



Zimmerman defenders are increasingly looking like they just approve of black teenagers being shot dead in the street for no reason.

...I wouldn't have a nickel, lol.

Yeah, his defenders look like nothing but racist assholes. What else is new?

until I started seeing the horrid posts about Trayvon today. They all say the same thing.

Its like they're all the BORG, connected to one main source of hate.

their main source of hate is FOX news.

Wish we could shut that stupid network down.

I've seen it, too.

And, btw, I really, really appreciate your clear-headed and articulate posts here on Cheney's heart and everything else. I think many of us here appreciate hearing from you. I look forward to to seeing more of you on the threads...

A simple statement from the attending health care unit would seem normal unless there were none.

on scene, just like they got this video; since the SPD isn't forthcoming with ANY information.

worked a code first. I don't know about you but my shortest code was fifteen minutes. Average was half an hour.

heard anything on Hardball, but maybe Sharpton will cover it.

surely there is one....somewhere.

They don't have good transmissions either, but do not get me started.

The sack.

nm

him up? When was he released? How did he get home? Did the SPD give him a ride?

Would be nice to know.

while not arresting Zimmerman

What if no clock functions properly there? What if we entered an alternative universe where time functions properly everywhere but in the Sanford Florida police station?

What if? What if? We should wait for evidence on the space-time vortex before coming to any conclusions!

By the officiers. They let him walk untouched....that is something I was told NEVER happens with a person in handcuffs.....when a suspect is in handcuffs they are always being held by a arm or by the the cuffs behind the back.

walking without assistance OR without police restraint.