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yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:09 PM May 2014

Hunting for a healthful hot dog for your Fourth of July celebration

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It’s a nutritionist’s nightmare: The 97th annual July Fourth International Hot Dog Eating Contest is next week at New York’s Coney Island. Last year’s winner scarfed down 62 Nathan’s Famous hot dogs — yes, with buns — in 10 minutes. That’s 17,980 calories, 372 grams of saturated fat, 44,020 milligrams of sodium, and 1,488 grams of carbs. Or to put it another way: It’s the equivalent of 149 pats of butter, 19 spoonfuls of salt and 99 slices of bread. In 10 minutes flat.

Even one hot dog can be one too many, thanks to the high sodium and saturated fat content: As much as a third of the upper-limit recommended consumption for each can be packed into a single regular-size frank. And then there are the added nitrites, linked to a potential increase in certain types of cancer. It’s all tucked into a (usually) white bun.

But that’s not to say that all hot dogs are off-limits. With a few key swaps, it’s possible to build a better dog to enjoy at your Fourth of July cookout.

http://www.nola.com/health/index.ssf/2012/06/hunting_for_a_healthful_hot_do.html
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Hunting for a healthful hot dog for your Fourth of July celebration (Original Post) yuiyoshida May 2014 OP
I buy bison hotdogs--expensive, but healthy fats hlthe2b May 2014 #1
oooh, i wish i could find some of those. until then i'm stuck with nathans and hebrew national. dionysus May 2014 #12
I remember 30 years ago I wouldn't touch buffalo Omaha Steve May 2014 #81
Screw that. If you only eat a couple once a year, it's not going to hurt you. hobbit709 May 2014 #2
I am w/ you on this MissMillie May 2014 #3
And you might as well have bratwurst, Polish sausage, or Italian sausage FarCenter May 2014 #39
They mention: Applegate’s Super Natural Turkey Hot Dog yuiyoshida May 2014 #4
Publix has them too. nt darkangel218 May 2014 #7
I went to the local Safeway... yuiyoshida May 2014 #50
I'm with you on the onions and mustard Aerows May 2014 #8
What kind of Cheese? yuiyoshida May 2014 #10
Oh yes! Tabasco sauce and chilli Aerows May 2014 #14
Even just the tabasco sauce on the yuiyoshida May 2014 #15
I'm GROWING a Tabasco pepper plant Aerows May 2014 #19
oh!! yuiyoshida May 2014 #23
I certainly will! Aerows May 2014 #24
I got to grow Jalapeno and Habanero yuiyoshida May 2014 #30
OOoooo Aerows May 2014 #33
I grow jalapenos and several other peppers panader0 May 2014 #37
That sounds fantastic! Aerows May 2014 #40
Maybe, a little sauerkraut. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #17
Do you know Aerows May 2014 #22
You'd like it. Also... TeeYiYi May 2014 #28
I will have to try it Aerows May 2014 #31
Kielbasa, mashed potatos and saurkraut B2G May 2014 #38
Never tried it Aerows May 2014 #41
Fry the kiebasa and then B2G May 2014 #43
I love mustard. Aerows May 2014 #45
Deal. :-) B2G May 2014 #48
Must. Try. Recipe... TeeYiYi May 2014 #56
It's amazing B2G May 2014 #61
I have had one before... they were not bad!! yuiyoshida May 2014 #54
No! whistler162 May 2014 #70
Exactly. ..nt TeeYiYi May 2014 #73
At Tiger Stadium they were called "Red Hots" longship May 2014 #63
Ketchup on a hot dog!? Aerows May 2014 #65
Never had sauerkraut and doesn't like ketchup.... obviously a whistler162 May 2014 #68
Ketchup on a hot dog? Aerows May 2014 #72
No, I like ketchup as long as there is mustard on it also. DebJ May 2014 #77
The ones I just bought today.. yuiyoshida May 2014 #66
I would ask for beef. Turkey tastes like turkey. DebJ May 2014 #76
Hebrew National or Shofar. Everything else is crap. nt msanthrope May 2014 #5
Hoffman's. nt whistler162 May 2014 #69
Make your own hotdogs and sausage from scratch PubsFU May 2014 #6
I have the processor stuff sausages 75% venison (my harvest), Eleanors38 May 2014 #71
at 6 or 7 hot dogs a year, I'm not concerned much with healthy, only with tasty! yawnmaster May 2014 #9
That game was special... yuiyoshida May 2014 #13
No kidding. panader0 May 2014 #18
I always listen on the Radio!! yuiyoshida May 2014 #26
When I was a kid I had transistor radio surgically implanted on my right ear randys1 May 2014 #29
I remember Lon Simmons when yuiyoshida May 2014 #32
around 68 I think randys1 May 2014 #34
I think our broadcasting team of four has got to be one of the best in baseball... yawnmaster May 2014 #35
How many of those 17,980 calories would actually be absorbed, metabolized, or whatever? Gidney N Cloyd May 2014 #11
I started to wonder exactly the same thing when I read this. Silent3 May 2014 #62
Bring on the Turkey Dogs... AsahinaKimi May 2014 #16
How Many Hotdogs Are Eaten at Major League Basbeall Games during the Season? yuiyoshida May 2014 #20
I like Hebrew National. Le Taz Hot May 2014 #21
me too Scout May 2014 #49
Chili dog w/ mustard & oinion, crispy fries and a lime-rita B2G May 2014 #25
Me either! Aerows May 2014 #44
The healthful ones are still going "oink". If it's been made into a hot dog, it's very unhealthful. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #27
I don't eat pork hot dogs. hobbit709 May 2014 #36
How about a delicious meatless italian sausage? Beaverhausen May 2014 #42
With a generous slathering of hot mustard and some chopped onions. Codeine May 2014 #46
I rather eat a big juicy Brat and a cold beer! B Calm May 2014 #47
When I used to take BART over to the Oakland County yuiyoshida May 2014 #51
This thread is making me hungry. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #52
I just now got back from Safeway... yuiyoshida May 2014 #55
I went to Kroger today. Louisiana1976 May 2014 #80
I don't think I've seen any of those brands here in the Midwest but I'll keep an eye out for them. Shandris May 2014 #53
I have to be careful with Sodium...Its yuiyoshida May 2014 #57
Oh definitely! Shandris May 2014 #59
Hotdogs are inferior! I go with coneys. Always. Inkfreak May 2014 #58
Ever tried a hot dog wrapped in a slice of pizza? Callmecrazy May 2014 #60
if i want healthy i wont be eating a hot dog , i would rather just limit the times i eat it JI7 May 2014 #64
Let's get Memorial Day out of the way first! KamaAina May 2014 #67
well...everyone knows that yuiyoshida May 2014 #74
That deal on the 4th of July is NOT a hotdog eating contest. Jenoch May 2014 #75
Morningstar Farms Veggie Dogs LiberalElite May 2014 #78
yummy deek May 2014 #82
Hotdogs are murder!! AgingAmerican May 2014 #79
I like Tofu Pups. n/t area51 May 2014 #83

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. I buy bison hotdogs--expensive, but healthy fats
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:37 PM
May 2014

Uncured and nitrate free. Eating in moderation is really not an issue (and these--$15+ at Costco for 12) are nice to have on occasion.

FWIW, those "eating contests" really make me nauseous-- and this from someone who has been known to binge eat at times over the years. Never approaching that, though.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
12. oooh, i wish i could find some of those. until then i'm stuck with nathans and hebrew national.
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:08 PM
May 2014

(the horror)

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
81. I remember 30 years ago I wouldn't touch buffalo
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:07 PM
May 2014

Had a chance to eat it in stew back then. Then about 20 years ago or so a local burger joint had buffalo burgers and I tried one.

The grocery store had fresh buffalo steaks and ground buffalo on a 1/2 price sale. We stocked up the freezer.

OS

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
2. Screw that. If you only eat a couple once a year, it's not going to hurt you.
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:41 PM
May 2014

One thing I've learned about all those "healthful" alternatives is that most of them taste like crap.

MissMillie

(38,560 posts)
3. I am w/ you on this
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:49 PM
May 2014

The truth of the matter is that for most people, if you eat a balanced diet, a treat here and there (be it a cookie, or a hot dog or whatever) isn't going give you a heart attack or make you fat.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
39. And you might as well have bratwurst, Polish sausage, or Italian sausage
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:00 PM
May 2014

Why limit yourself to hot dogs, when there is a variety of sausages to choose from?

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
4. They mention: Applegate’s Super Natural Turkey Hot Dog
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:52 PM
May 2014

I checked, SAFEWAY has it. I want to try them. 110g of Sodium is not bad! Since baseball season has started I have been craving a hot dog. Buns, mustard, onions, what more could you ask for?

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
50. I went to the local Safeway...
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:17 PM
May 2014

The Butcher told me they were out of it! So I grabbed them all looking for the lowest sodium I could find. Turkey dogs seem to be there, and one had 440g of sodium so I grabbed two. Tonight, while listening to the game, if I hear someone in the back ground yell "hot dog!" I will smile, cause I got mine!!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I'm with you on the onions and mustard
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:02 PM
May 2014

but as for what more could you ask for, add some cheese to that . And more mustard!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
10. What kind of Cheese?
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:06 PM
May 2014

Swiss cheese? I don't think I have ever had a hotdog with cheese at the ball park. I know I have had it with Chilly beans and some kind of yellow cheese. It was not bad. Chilly dogs are pretty good especially with a bit of Tabasco on it. Yum! Lots of good eating ahead!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. Oh yes! Tabasco sauce and chilli
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:08 PM
May 2014

with cheese mustard and onions! Any kind of cheese, really. I prefer cheddar, but cheese of any sort has a place on a hot dog .

I think we have very similar tastes in food! .

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. I'm GROWING a Tabasco pepper plant
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:19 PM
May 2014

I've tried 4 times, and this is the first season that it is actually taking off . I'm so thrilled with my garden

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. I certainly will!
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:23 PM
May 2014

It's still small, but it is flourishing . I'm also growing cucumbers, two varieties of heirloom tomatoes, sweet onions, bell pepper and a jalapeno pepper plant.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
30. I got to grow Jalapeno and Habanero
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

Chiles once in our backyard years ago. They were so hot, but great tasting.. I would cut them up and put them on a slab of bread with cream cheese. Yum!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
37. I grow jalapenos and several other peppers
Tue May 6, 2014, 03:53 PM
May 2014

Dice the jalapenos and cook in a small saucepan with a bit of butter and a bit of water, stirring until they brown and get crisp. Much of the heat is gone but the flavor remains. Sprinkle on baked potato or whatever. Yum.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. Do you know
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:21 PM
May 2014

that I have never even tried sauerkraut? I love cabbage, so I'm pretty sure I would like it, but I have never gotten around to trying it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. I will have to try it
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:37 PM
May 2014

I have no idea why I haven't ever had any. I guess it is because I live in the South.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
43. Fry the kiebasa and then
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:10 PM
May 2014

add the saurkraut and saute until browned. Throw on top of mashed potatoes. Pass the spicy brown mustard.

Oh my god.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
61. It's amazing
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:41 PM
May 2014

Make sure you put a lot of butter in the potatoes. And I use the all beef kielbasa.

This definitely isn't a low cal meal. Lol.

longship

(40,416 posts)
63. At Tiger Stadium they were called "Red Hots"
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:13 PM
May 2014

Available any way you wanted them, in other words with only mustard and/or onions. They were the best. Ah! Youth!

These days I eat jumbo Hebrew National all beef dogs, although I love the natural skinned Keigel dogs as well.

Yummy! (And no self respecting hot dog has ketchup on it.)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
65. Ketchup on a hot dog!?
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:34 PM
May 2014

Ugh. I can't even stand it on a hamburger, much less a hot dog! Blasphemy!

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
68. Never had sauerkraut and doesn't like ketchup.... obviously a
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:00 PM
May 2014

illegal alien!

Welcome to earth, enjoy your stay!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
66. The ones I just bought today..
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:37 PM
May 2014

I have added Tabasco sauce to be honest, they are not bad. Next time I can try a little sriracha Thai sauce on one.

 

PubsFU

(34 posts)
6. Make your own hotdogs and sausage from scratch
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:58 PM
May 2014

plenty of recepies on the internet and it is very easy to do.

You pick the critter and spices, grind it up, stuff it and cook it, tt is the only way to ensure the quality of what you are putting into your dog.


 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
71. I have the processor stuff sausages 75% venison (my harvest),
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

and 25% seasoned pork (their's). Great on the grill as straight-up sausage, or trimmed down for a 'dog. Onion, mustard, and sweet jalapeno relish. Hard to beat.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
9. at 6 or 7 hot dogs a year, I'm not concerned much with healthy, only with tasty!
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:02 PM
May 2014

go Giants. what a game last night.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
18. No kidding.
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:17 PM
May 2014

I stopped following it on the computer when it was 8 to 2 Pirates. I was very pleasantly surprised when I turned on the scores this morning! Go Giants!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. When I was a kid I had transistor radio surgically implanted on my right ear
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

just about anyway

Russ Hodges and Lon Simmons were such an important part of my life...

I remember the day I was listening when he said "And Juan Marichal just turned around and hit catcher Johny Roseburo in the head"

"with the BAT"



any of you remember that one?

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
32. I remember Lon Simmons when
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:38 PM
May 2014

He Broadcasted for the Oakland A's along with Bill King. I was probably too young to remember that event. Jon Miller is my favorite now with the Giants.

yawnmaster

(2,812 posts)
35. I think our broadcasting team of four has got to be one of the best in baseball...
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:40 PM
May 2014

admittedly, I haven't listened to every team.
I definitely put the radio on for the nationally broadcast games.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,840 posts)
11. How many of those 17,980 calories would actually be absorbed, metabolized, or whatever?
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:08 PM
May 2014

No first hand knowledge here but at some point wouldn't a body give up and just try to push along the excess and not try to fully digest it?

Silent3

(15,221 posts)
62. I started to wonder exactly the same thing when I read this.
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:43 PM
May 2014

I wouldn't be too surprised if part of the answer often is that a good portion of the food gets vomited up after whatever period of time you need to keep it down to win such a contest.

But if you don't puke out the excess, then just how insistent is the human body on trying to extract all the calories it can out of a megadose of food, and to the extent it can't handle all of those calories, how does passing mostly undigested food work?

Maybe all it takes is a bit of googling to find out the probably disgusting answers to these mysteries.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
20. How Many Hotdogs Are Eaten at Major League Basbeall Games during the Season?
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:19 PM
May 2014

Americans eat approximately 21.4 million hot dogs at Major League baseball games every year. Evidently, Red Sox fans really love hot dogs. They consume around 1.67 million at their games alone. You can find more information here: http://www.myfoxla.com/dpps/news/dpgoh-americans-to-devour-hot-dog-at-baseball-games-fc-20100406_6921121

http://www.ask.com/question/how-many-hotdogs-are-eaten-at-major-league-basbeall-games-during-the-season

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
21. I like Hebrew National.
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:21 PM
May 2014

They just taste better. The key, of course, is we have hot dogs maybe twice a year and we don't eat 62 of them.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
25. Chili dog w/ mustard & oinion, crispy fries and a lime-rita
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:24 PM
May 2014

Perfect.

If I'm gonna eat a hotdog, it ain't going to be low anything. Lol.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
51. When I used to take BART over to the Oakland County
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:23 PM
May 2014

Coliseum, I was amazed at how many different kinds of Brats they sold at the venders. I have tried a Dodger Dog once, ..these Brats put them to shame!! As for beer, it was there as well...after all Its Baseball!!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
55. I just now got back from Safeway...
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:28 PM
May 2014

Guess what I bought? Yes... Hot dogs, Buns...(already have the mustard a onions) Bought some swiss cheese as well.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
53. I don't think I've seen any of those brands here in the Midwest but I'll keep an eye out for them.
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:26 PM
May 2014

As for turkey...yah, no, not going that far. I don't eat more than a couple dogs per month, and I use the Oscar Meyer Lean Beef ones with 60 cal/dog. I don't think a living human being without infinite time could even remotely try to keep proper track of sodium, fat, carbs, protein, and all that in some kind of appropriate balance; I'll stick to 'roughly calories and don't overdo the sugar/fat' and be content. I don't think my poor lil brain will handle more!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
57. I have to be careful with Sodium...Its
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:31 PM
May 2014

good to check the labels. Hot Dogs as you might imagine are very very high in Sodium. The ones I bought were 440g of Sodium..those are far better than the 800g and up...Even eating them once in a while... the sodium increases your high blood pressure..that can lead to many problems down the road.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
59. Oh definitely!
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:36 PM
May 2014

Sodium is one of those things that really bugs me; I'm aware of it occasionally (usually right -after- I needed to be!), but I really -should- be watching out for. Thankfully, I just discovered my BP dropped 10 whole points after stopping smoking 6 months ago, so I have a bit of leeway, but I won't if I'm not careful.

I just went shopping last night, so I went and checked the new package of dogs I bought (the Lean ones I mentioned) and they register in at 380. Still a whopping 16% per dog, but a 2-dog meal with salad with a properly-chosen dressing will keep it all under 50%. Given I only eat twice a day, that's doable for now. 10 years from now I may have to reconsider one of those turkey alternatives, but goddess help me if I'm in a rush to do so!

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
58. Hotdogs are inferior! I go with coneys. Always.
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:35 PM
May 2014

Hoffman Snappy Grillers. I'm sure they're just as bad for ya. But I care not! The few I eat a year are sooo delicious. Grilled and slightly charred...ohhhh.

For your viewing pleasure..
http://www.hofmannhotdogs.com

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
60. Ever tried a hot dog wrapped in a slice of pizza?
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:40 PM
May 2014

Don't knock it til you try it.

The tomato sauce does something great to the flavor.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
64. if i want healthy i wont be eating a hot dog , i would rather just limit the times i eat it
Tue May 6, 2014, 05:24 PM
May 2014

and get whatever tastes the best the few times i do eat it.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
74. well...everyone knows that
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

for Memorial Day YOU ARE supposed to have KUNG PAO MEATLESS SHIRMP.... come on!!!


Kidding!!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
75. That deal on the 4th of July is NOT a hotdog eating contest.
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:49 PM
May 2014

A hotdog is a wiener on a bun. That event, which I find disgusting, is a wiener and bun eating contest.

As to 'healthful' hotdogs (or wieners), there is no point to it. If a wiener, bacon for that matter, is not cured, it is not worth the calories and likely does not taste like a real wiener or bacon. I would eat turkey bacon, but only if it's cured.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
79. Hotdogs are murder!!
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:09 PM
May 2014


Hotdogs, Armour hotdogs.

What kinds of kids eat Armour hot dogs?

Fat kids, skinny kids, kids who climb on rocks.

Tough kids, sissy kids

Even kids with chicken pox

Love hotdogs, Armour hot dogs

The dogs kids love to bite!
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