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Carol Burnett: On Welfare (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2014 OP
du rec. xchrom May 2014 #1
Yeah, but she was white. n/t Dawgs May 2014 #2
So, it was a mistake to help her? Dragonfli May 2014 #17
I think Dawgs is making the same point. (Some only associate "welfare" with non-Whites, which isn't deurbano May 2014 #20
I think it's just that White have always assumed Stellar May 2014 #28
Maybe it's a southern thing Dragonfli May 2014 #31
aww, don't say that... Stellar May 2014 #32
And a minor. And the country and its people were different then. merrily May 2014 #22
Very classy woman. lark May 2014 #3
Good sentiment, not a real quote nt alp227 May 2014 #4
I have heard her say those very words in interviews. libnnc May 2014 #5
Why did you write that? tabasco May 2014 #29
Gives me an excuse to dust off this youtube clip of Craig T. Nelson tclambert May 2014 #6
Carol has been very honest about the help she received in showbiz libnnc May 2014 #7
Unbelievable statement ... aggiesal May 2014 #8
"Socialist" food stamps & welfare are what Lewis Black might call... Beartracks May 2014 #25
"...intellectual core of Republicanism" Uh, you know that's never been seen, right? jtuck004 May 2014 #14
Like a black hole...only a black hole actually has gravity. Lizzie Poppet May 2014 #30
He deserves to live in a house-full of poltergeists for that crappy statement nikto May 2014 #26
One Heck of a Wonderful Lady Leith May 2014 #9
She's a Republican, if I recall correctly. closeupready May 2014 #10
Nope. n/t libnnc May 2014 #11
Democrat, feminist, anti-war, if pro-drug laws from family experience nt HomerRamone May 2014 #12
Oh, okay. Thanks for the correction. closeupready May 2014 #13
Reply 7 says she's been registered as a Dem for many years. merrily May 2014 #23
At least it didn't damage her psychologically, so that she went into politics, and made a career out TrollBuster9090 May 2014 #15
I love her joeybee12 May 2014 #16
Like all great comedic actors deutsey May 2014 #18
I second that nikto May 2014 #27
she has true grit. hopemountain May 2014 #19
The house in San Antonio where she lived as a child... Gruenemann May 2014 #21
Lots of places like that in San Antonio many of which are literally falling down. merrily May 2014 #24

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
17. So, it was a mistake to help her?
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:44 PM
May 2014

Being poor and having been raised poor, I find that going hungry and cold affected all my neighbors equally here on the east side of Buffalo.

I gather it is different where you are from, but here we tend to stick together and help each other out to survive or less of us would. To us it's us against suburban creeps like you and the wealthy elite that are actively trying to kill us, not us against ourselves because some are white, some are black and so many other groups it would take a paragraph to list them all.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
20. I think Dawgs is making the same point. (Some only associate "welfare" with non-Whites, which isn't
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:28 PM
May 2014

the reality, for the reasons you mention.)

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
28. I think it's just that White have always assumed
Wed May 7, 2014, 07:45 AM
May 2014

they earned it some how. And blacks did not deserve it. IDK...

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
31. Maybe it's a southern thing
Wed May 7, 2014, 10:09 AM
May 2014

Here we get the same shit, lazy white trash scum is our affectionate nick name. In the south perhaps whites in need of assistance are not derided and shamed, but here, we are the walking scum.

It is more a suburbanite problem than a race problem here, black and white SUV driving creeps look down on us and mumble nasty shit equally when we buy food with EBT at he store, they appear to agree we all suck. Luckily we don't hate each other or as I said, we'd all be doing much worse because no one but are neighbors would ever help us.

I still get the impression the poster hates me for no other reason than I am white poor scum that shouldn't be getting any of his SUV driving tax money. A Common thing I am used to that does not make me feel the shame it is intended to make me feel, it only pisses me off like poor hatred always pisses me off.

It's a class thing, and that poster thinks I am less a human because I am "white trash".

lark

(23,105 posts)
3. Very classy woman.
Tue May 6, 2014, 01:44 PM
May 2014

Loved her and watched her shows all the time and glad to see she doesn't seem to be part of the entitled 1%.

libnnc

(9,996 posts)
5. I have heard her say those very words in interviews.
Tue May 6, 2014, 02:20 PM
May 2014

And she writes about it in her memoir "One More Time".

Never had a bed of her own until she moved to NYC in 1954. Was raised by her grandmother, "Nanny". She slept on the couch in a one room apartment (her mother lived down the hall) on the corner of Yucca and Wilcox in the middle of Hollywood, CA.

One block north of Hollywood Blvd. "...but a million miles from 'Hollywood'."

Edit to add: They were on "relief" in both San Antonio, TX and once they moved to Hollywood.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
6. Gives me an excuse to dust off this youtube clip of Craig T. Nelson
Tue May 6, 2014, 03:03 PM
May 2014

It's only ten seconds long, yet expresses the intellectual core of Republicanism:

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libnnc

(9,996 posts)
7. Carol has been very honest about the help she received in showbiz
Tue May 6, 2014, 03:19 PM
May 2014

Both anonymous and not. It was help from a total stranger, a very successful businessman in southern CA, who gave her $1000 to get to NYC in 1954. Under these stipulations.

1. The money be used for starting her career in NYC
2. She pay it back no interest (if successful) in 5 years. Paid him back 5 years to the day.
3. She help others later on
4. She never reveal the name of the donor.

60 years later, she's met all those stipulations. She still helps out people starting out in show business and has many scholarships set up all over the country.

And she's never revealed the name of the businessman who wrote her that check.

Edit to add: she's a registered Democrat. Has been for many years.

aggiesal

(8,918 posts)
8. Unbelievable statement ...
Tue May 6, 2014, 03:25 PM
May 2014

"... I've been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No!" said Craig T. Nelson.

What do you call food stamps and welfare? I guess in his world, this is nobody helping him out,
instead of literally, EVERYONE helping him out.

Beartracks

(12,816 posts)
25. "Socialist" food stamps & welfare are what Lewis Black might call...
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:47 AM
May 2014

... "enforced Christianity"!!

Can a Good Samaritan be everywhere there's a person in need? No... and that's why we have a welfare system! It codifies and regulates a system of charity so that we can all depend on the kindness of strangers, even as we are also the strangers on whom others occasionally depend.

If Craig T. Nelson doesn't appreciate the help his fellow men gave him via food stamps and welfare, then he needs to take it up with the Lord.

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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. "...intellectual core of Republicanism" Uh, you know that's never been seen, right?
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:13 PM
May 2014

The search is ongoing. They even built the super-collider, and thought they were close when they had something which resembled a black hole, but it was just a fly squashed on the picture, not actual Rethug intelligence.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
26. He deserves to live in a house-full of poltergeists for that crappy statement
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:55 AM
May 2014

A house built by corrupt rightwing developers
right on top of an old graveyard.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
15. At least it didn't damage her psychologically, so that she went into politics, and made a career out
Tue May 6, 2014, 04:19 PM
May 2014
of taking it away from OTHER people in a massive example of denial, projection and cognitive dissonance the way...say... PAUL RYAN, or Craig T. Nelson, or Joe the (not) Plumber, or AYN RAND did.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
18. Like all great comedic actors
Tue May 6, 2014, 10:38 PM
May 2014

Carol could easily cross the fine line between making you laugh a deep, hearty laugh at the characters she played while a moment later making you want to cry in sympathy with them.

So much of today's "humor" is built around ridiculing other people from an attitude of superiority. Carol's humor was always grounded in our shared, fragile humanity.

I miss her humor.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
27. I second that
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:57 AM
May 2014

In comparison to much of today's "humor", her shows seem like
nobel-prize-winning masterpieces.

Gruenemann

(984 posts)
21. The house in San Antonio where she lived as a child...
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:54 PM
May 2014

...was going to be torn down to expand a barbecue joint's parking lot. Henry Cisneros bought it and moved it a few blocks away to restore and use as office space. It's a nice old place with gingerbread and a big wrap-around porch where Carol used to roller skate.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
24. Lots of places like that in San Antonio many of which are literally falling down.
Wed May 7, 2014, 12:31 AM
May 2014

I once heard that a modest home with a lot of gingerbread probably had been built by a carpenter as a home for him and his family.

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