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babylonsister

(171,074 posts)
Thu May 15, 2014, 10:16 PM May 2014

Another red state just caved on Obamacare

Last edited Thu May 15, 2014, 11:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Another red state just caved on Obamacare

Updated by Adrianna McIntyre on May 15, 2014, 4:00 p.m. ET @onceuponA


Despite vocal opposition to Obamacare, Governor Mike Pence of Indiana just joined the ranks of conservative state officials willing to compromise with the federal government to expand health coverage for their states' poorest residents.


So, is Indiana signing up for Obamacare's Medicaid expansion?

Yep, but don't expect the governor to frame it that way.
"From the very beginning of my tenure as governor, we've been saying no to the Affordable Care Act in Indiana," Pence said at today's announcement. "Medicaid is not a program we need to expand, it is a program we need to change."

Pence has proposed to expand an existing state program, the Healthy Indiana Plan, to extend affordable coverage to all Hoosiers below 138 percent of the federal poverty line. Indiana would pay for that expansion using Obamacare's Medicaid expansion funds.

Healthy Indiana is popular with its beneficiaries, but the program would have to change to become Obamacare-compliant. Right now, for example, it imposes annual and lifetime dollar limits, doesn't cover maternity care, and requires monthly contributions from most enrollees. The Department of Health and Human Services made it clear that some of these rules were unacceptable if Indiana wanted federal funds for a full Medicaid expansion.

He's billing this move as an "alternative" to Medicaid expansion, because the state is seeking permission from the feds revamp the Healthy Indiana Plan. But Indiana's special expansion still needs to play by Obamacare's rules.

more...

http://www.vox.com/2014/5/15/5716350/indianas-expanding-medicaid-thats-a-big-deal

fyi, Ezra Klein's new site.

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Another red state just caved on Obamacare (Original Post) babylonsister May 2014 OP
Good. k&r n/t Laelth May 2014 #1
Wisconsin will be last. Scuba May 2014 #2
Hey, we just got grunge last year.... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2014 #7
GOOD! now if donco May 2014 #3
Nixon wants it. xmas74 May 2014 #14
This is Indiana. Brigid May 2014 #4
Exactly what I was thinking. Shandris May 2014 #10
Kick and Hell yes Recommend! sheshe2 May 2014 #5
Gave up and gave in! do right by their peeps whether Cha May 2014 #6
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. What they want is to expand Healthy Indiana Plan, silvershadow May 2014 #8
The only real solidarity will be in Dixie Warpy May 2014 #9
A good move, no matter which state comes on board. Thinkingabout May 2014 #11
they never ever ever talk about vlyons May 2014 #20
Right. I'll believe it when I see it. IronLionZion May 2014 #12
Maybe they were looking for a way to make money out of it. d_legendary1 May 2014 #17
I wish mine would. nt RiffRandell May 2014 #13
Ditto! snot May 2014 #15
yay! I hope they send out voter registration cards flamingdem May 2014 #16
Free money!!! What Red states love most. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #18
Goin Blue in 2016 for sure. Can we make it sooner? 2014? ffr May 2014 #19
Keeping in mind that Indiana farmers are famous for their opposition to Daylight Saving Time. Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #21
Even Rick"The Dictator" Snyder here in MI saw the writing on the wall & defied the baggers catbyte May 2014 #22
This is wonderful!! tavernier May 2014 #23

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
14. Nixon wants it.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:22 AM
May 2014

He's always wanted it and I believe Koster would be willing to fight for it, since he's gearing up to run in 2016. It's our legislators who want to keep us in the dark ages.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
10. Exactly what I was thinking.
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:11 AM
May 2014

There's a lot of time between announcing an intent and what the Statehouse actually accomplishes.

Now if I could somehow stop paying so much for Medicare, my split household would be in good shape.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
8. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. What they want is to expand Healthy Indiana Plan,
Fri May 16, 2014, 01:11 AM
May 2014

Last edited Sun May 18, 2014, 05:14 AM - Edit history (1)

which hasn't exactly been widespread blockbuster success. It would have to improve greatly from what I have seen and went through prior to my current situation. My wet finger to the wind tells me Mike Pence put his to the wind and decided prevailing indicators where that he *needed to do something quick (anything, really) to give the appearance of being substantial, without actually being so.

You see, he's just itching to run in 16, not later. He has been since he took the Governor's office just a mere 15 months ago. In that 15 months he has made absolutely no waves, he has run a VERY low-key administration thus far. So low-key one might wonder if we have a state government but for the fact that Pence almost tripped over his shoelaces rushing to the radio and tv microphones a couple of times this year for snow emergencies.

"As commander-in-chief of Indiana National Guard" he emphasized repeatedly during his tv talkfests- you could almost see the wistful gleam in his eyes through the radio as he made his proclamations with strong, commanding yet fake voice whilst dreaming of the oval office. I really don't expect this HIP thing, with the program already largely a dismal failure, to have the impact Obamacare mandates, and I really don't see how they can make it so.

(Remember, under my theory Pence doesn't give a sh*t about actuality, only about seizing this opportunity to beef up his relatively thin bone fides, and quickly. I hope and pray that the officials in the Obama administration will entertain the state's request with a critical eye, require actual documentation, not let them have any loopholes whatsoever. But that's just me, and I could be full of it. ?

Warpy

(111,279 posts)
9. The only real solidarity will be in Dixie
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:57 AM
May 2014

I think even the Moron Corridor might cave eventually once their GOP governors are convinced their recalcitrance is translating into abysmal poll numbers.

The threat of losing their cushy jobs before they get rich quick will be too much.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. A good move, no matter which state comes on board.
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:44 AM
May 2014

What is so interesting is it does not cover maternity care. In res states where laws has been enacted to force births and again they want the births but don't want the health care.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
20. they never ever ever talk about
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:56 AM
May 2014

all those unwanted babies. What is the fate of babies born to mothers too young, too poor, in poor health, emotionally unwilling & unable, financially strapped? I guess they want to always have a ready pool of people to fill those ultra-low wage jobs.

IronLionZion

(45,462 posts)
12. Right. I'll believe it when I see it.
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:16 AM
May 2014

I trust Mike Pence as far as I can sling a piano.

This looks like its for show. Healthy Indiana is a very conservative program with much less benefits. If they cared so much, why wait so long to do something?


d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
17. Maybe they were looking for a way to make money out of it.
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:28 PM
May 2014

After all conservatives won't really do something unless their backers get paid for their actions.

catbyte

(34,407 posts)
22. Even Rick"The Dictator" Snyder here in MI saw the writing on the wall & defied the baggers
Sat May 17, 2014, 03:09 PM
May 2014

& OK'd Medicare expansion. The baggers stomped their widdle feet & threatened to hold their breath until they turned blue, lol.

tavernier

(12,393 posts)
23. This is wonderful!!
Sat May 17, 2014, 08:24 PM
May 2014

Indiana nurses have lost jobs and considered moving out of state because of this insanity. Hopefully this crisis is over!

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