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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 05:53 AM May 2014

5 of the Most Dangerous Delusions of the Far Right


5 of the Most Dangerous Delusions of the Far Right
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/5-most-dangerous-delusions-far-right



1) Climate change. The White House recently released a report on climate change outlining how climate change is no longer a “future” issue since it’s having an impact on the environment right now. Conservatives responded by abandoning all restraint. No longer content with the line that they are simply “skeptical” of the science, George Will and Charles Krauthammer (neither of whom are scientists) went on Fox News to “explain” how all this science stuff is hokum. Will basically accused scientists of making it all up for mercenary reasons, saying, “If you want money from the biggest source of direct research in this country, the federal government, don't question its orthodoxy.” Why the federal government would make up climate change and then bribe scientists to lie about it was left unexplained.

***SNIP

2) Abortion. Abortion has always been a topic that causes conservatives to spin off into fantasyland, but lately it just seems to be getting worse. Unable to admit out loud that they want to ban abortion to punish women for having sex, conservatives have taken to spinning fantastical tales of how abortion is an “industry” that deliberately tricks women into having abortions in order to make money. (Never mind that many abortion clinics are non-profits.)

3) Gun culture. The great myth the right has pushed for decades is that people need guns for personal safety, to protect against home intruders who are bent on raping and murdering them. It’s hard to deny the right to self-defense, but the tactic is fundamentally dishonest because having a gun in the home significantly raises the likelihood you’re going to be murdered. But no longer content simply to lie to people about guns, right-wing media has upped the ante, now arguing that a little pre-emptive murder of teenagers who are not actually out to murder you is good for overall safety and security.

4) Terrorism. Your average conservative is deeply committed to the idea that the Republicans are better on security issues than the Democrats. Of course, now they have to contend with the fact that President Obama presided over the killing of Osama Bin Laden. How better to go about this than just go big when rewriting history?
During a recent discussion of terrorism, Fox News host Eric Bolling said, “America was certainly safe between 2000 and 2008. I don't remember any attacks on American soil during that period of time.” No one bothered to correct him, even though the biggest terrorist attack in American history happened during Bush’s presidency, on September 11, 2001. Perhaps you remember it.
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5 of the Most Dangerous Delusions of the Far Right (Original Post) xchrom May 2014 OP
I disaagree somewhat with #2 kelliekat44 May 2014 #1
I Also Disagree With Number Two Vogon_Glory May 2014 #6
One has to wonder why they think men will go along with this Demeter May 2014 #16
That's Not How Those People Think Vogon_Glory May 2014 #20
The covenant marriage is precisely what I was getting at Demeter May 2014 #21
One thing that leaped out at me in that article treestar May 2014 #22
I think forcing their religious beliefs on others pretty much fits in as well davidpdx May 2014 #11
1 is probably going to kill us Prophet 451 May 2014 #2
Kick! Heidi May 2014 #3
HEIDI!11 is this hat too big? xchrom May 2014 #4
That hat is the perfect distraction Heidi May 2014 #5
i am nothing -- if not Distracting xchrom May 2014 #9
You can say that again Demeter May 2014 #17
Wow! Who is this godess?! Demo_Chris May 2014 #8
I disagree. There are only two... Demo_Chris May 2014 #7
I wonder what politicians would run on if Ilsa May 2014 #10
I hope someone called Eric Bolling out on that ignorant, no, LYING remark. nt raccoon May 2014 #12
I'd expend the list to (at least) six -- they have plenty of dangerous delusions JHB May 2014 #13
They consistently overestimate it because they are constantly told Enthusiast May 2014 #14
Oh, the misinformation started long before Fox... JHB May 2014 #18
This Delusion Underlies The Radical Right's Ideas On Farm Labor Vogon_Glory May 2014 #19
And The Wizard May 2014 #15
I would also add... LeftishBrit May 2014 #23
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
1. I disaagree somewhat with #2
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:01 AM
May 2014

They want to ban abortion for two main reasons: they don't want the government (their "hard earned" tax dollars going to benefit black women or women they regard as having loose morals) AND they do not want their white women to stop having babies because the reproductive rates of minority women is much greater than the reproductive rates of white women. They fail to realize that educated and middle and upper income white women will always be able to afford a doctor who will perform a D&C or get them access to the morning after pill.

Vogon_Glory

(9,120 posts)
6. I Also Disagree With Number Two
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:31 AM
May 2014

I also disagree with number two. The Radical Right's hostility to abortion is actually only a sub-component of an even greater delusion--the Radical Right's belief that access to birth control is a sin. Many social reactionaries believe that if teenagers and un-married single women are denied access to birth control, they will stop having sex, and the days of rampant promiscuity will come to a halt. Moreover, severe restriction of access to birth control will take many uppity women's libber married women out of the workplace as they get pregnant, restoring things to the way Radical Righties think they ought to be (but never were).

Outlawing abortion is only a first step. Restricting birth control is right behind it. Many of us have caught people like Schlafly and Santorum muttering such sentiments when their guard is down. As many of us have seen as part of the Radical Right's 'Salome's Veil' strategy practiced with abortion, Radical Rightists will pursue their strategy in stages. Here in Texas they've already shuttered numerous clinics that once provided birth control to less-prosperous single and married women. The recent howls of opposition to employer-funded birth control is another layer in their multi-veil strategy.

Unfortunately, thanks to voter ignorance and apathy, that strategy seems to be working.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
16. One has to wonder why they think men will go along with this
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:51 AM
May 2014

for men are the ones who would be inconvenienced by the end of "rampant promiscuity" without consequences....

It's not like these footloose men are candidates for marriage, after all...for if they were single, and eligible, some smart woman would have put a collar on each one in his 20's.

And if they are married, it's not like marriage made any difference in their behavior....

and by the way, it's a sure bet that the next step would be outlawing divorce, the safe and legal procedure which prevents a LOT of deaths in the justifiable homicide category.

Vogon_Glory

(9,120 posts)
20. That's Not How Those People Think
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:01 PM
May 2014

That's not how those people think. Some think that young satyrs should be shamed for fornicating, others think that fear of impregnating their girlfriends will stop them from catting around.

As for outlawing divorce (Another item on the Radical Righties' agenda), you might want to look up 'covenant marriage.'

What I think most voters should remember, though, is that the right-wingers' agenda is NOT formed by a clear-eyed unsentimental view of human behavior--their agenda was formed by a coalition of reactionary sectarian clerics, reactionary ideologues, and talk-show hosts and politicians on the make. Examining how the world works and acting on it has little or nothing to do with their policy agenda.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
21. The covenant marriage is precisely what I was getting at
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:47 PM
May 2014

and I think the basis for all their policies is that they are control freaks who really get off on ordering people around like puppets.

Their ethics are inconsistent and basically unethical. Their science is nonsense. Their understanding of human motivation and society is negligible. Their self-awareness, also.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. One thing that leaped out at me in that article
Sun May 18, 2014, 10:52 AM
May 2014

is that the right is willing to chip away at things like this. Right, it's only step 1. They are fanatical and determined.

Too often the left does not have that quality and thus we don't get what we want. The ACA was a big move yet we have people so unhappy at not getting the whole enchilada. If only we were as fanatical as the right is.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
2. 1 is probably going to kill us
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:45 AM
May 2014

And now that the West Antarctic ice sheet has started to collapse, it's probably too late.

5 is just the latest Republican manufactroversy.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
5. That hat is the perfect distraction
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:19 AM
May 2014

from the underbosom that seems to be meandering its way out of your bejeweled brassiere!

STUNNING!

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
7. I disagree. There are only two...
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:34 AM
May 2014

1. The belief that the immoral and evil superstitions of bronze age primitives should form the foundation of our morals and our understanding of the world.

2. The belief that, with the sole exception of war, people cannot work collectively for a common good and accomplish results that exceed the contributions of individuals.

Ultimately, they reject objective reason and have replaced it with self-destructive willful ignorance.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
10. I wonder what politicians would run on if
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:49 AM
May 2014

They already had their way on abortion and birth control. I guess they could claim "success" in their ads, but everything else they run on brings misery and economic ruin to the 99%. And as we can see in the Arkansas Pryor vs Cotton ads, that's when they start losing big.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
13. I'd expend the list to (at least) six -- they have plenty of dangerous delusions
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:01 AM
May 2014

6) There is a vast army of layabouts and moochers living in luxury on their (the conservatives') tax dollars. Conservatives consistently overestimate how much is spent on welfare and safety-net programs -- and who is in them, and in what numbers. It's not always overt, open racism -- they'll complain about whites on assistance too -- but it's the easy acceptance of racial stereotypes that lets them swallow the "vast army of moochers" premise like it was chocolate.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. They consistently overestimate it because they are constantly told
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:42 AM
May 2014

that lazy moochers are the primary source of the deficit. It's called misinformation (Fox "News&quot .

JHB

(37,161 posts)
18. Oh, the misinformation started long before Fox...
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:55 AM
May 2014

Conservative "think" tanks in particular would highlight what percentage of the federal budget went to "entitlements", then would talk about welfare. What they neglected to mention was that the lion's share (the whole lion pride's share, even) of the big, alarming numbers they bandied about were for Social Security and Medicare, not food stamps, housing assistance, and other welfare programs.

They'd put out reports on how much had been spent "fighting poverty" over the years (to argue its ineffectiveness), but they'd "kitchen sink" the numbers, including any means-tested program -- including the ones that mostly benefited the middle class, not just the poor.

Vogon_Glory

(9,120 posts)
19. This Delusion Underlies The Radical Right's Ideas On Farm Labor
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:20 AM
May 2014

This delusion underlies the Radical Right's hostility towards any sort of so-called "amnesty" for undocumented aliens. Despite cries of dismay from farmers and ranchers and the departures of farm laborers from places like Arizona, Alabama, and Georgia, Radical Righties keep rubbing their hands and thinking that members of that phantom army of "moochers" will be forced to step forward and dig fence posts, pick fruit, and pluck tomatoes.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
15. And
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:44 AM
May 2014

they really believe they represent the majority despite elections and the fact that 1.5 million more voters voted for Democrats than Republicans in the last House elections. They don't understand anything because of willful ignorance and Pox News.

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
23. I would also add...
Sun May 18, 2014, 11:45 AM
May 2014

everything bad is the result of foreigners, and anyone whose great-grandparent was a 'foreigner' is still a bloody foreigner.

That is certainly the number-one delusion of the far-right in Europe.

Other delusions of the right in general; not necessarily the far-right:

(1) There is a massive number of idlers who are falsely claiming benefits (in fact benefit fraud is rare, and when it does happen, usually involves the opposite of skiving, i.e. continuing to claim unemployent benefit when you have a job)

(2) All who claim benefits are unemployed (in fact, most welfare goes to the very old or very young who are not of working age; and nowadays the majority of working-age benefit claimants are working poor, not unemployed)

(3) People will only be productive if they are frightened (in fact, while fear of destitution may deter true idlers, it also deters creative risk-takers, as well as reducing effectiveness by causing stress-related illness)

(4) Efficiency can be defined as employing a few staff as possible (not only does that lead to lots of involuntary unemployment and under-employment, but it is often very inefficient for the consumer).

(5 - And THIS one is so pervasive that it even affects the centre and left to some degree): The private sector is always better and more efficient than the public sector. (Umm, I have plenty of experience otherwise!)


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