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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:00 PM May 2014

Tucker Carlson: Men Are Suffering In The Workplace, Not Women


"Outnumbered" stuck true to its name on Thursday when host Tucker Carlson found himself in a heated one vs. four debate over gender inequality in the workplace. The discussion was about allegations that Jill Abramson, the New York Times executive editor who was ousted this week, was being paid significantly less than her male predecessor.

Carlson called it the "greatest story ever" and laughed off the existence of a gender pay gap.
"This idea that women are suffering, that's just ridiculous!" he said. "Men are suffering."

Needless to say, his four female co-hosts did not respond well. One co-host pointed to a recent study by Indiana University, which found that female journalists made 82 cents for every $1 that male journalists made in 2012, and added that about 63 percent of all journalists are men.

"That's just silly," Carlson shot back. "If you adjust for the amount of uninterrupted time people spend in the workplace, women make more than men in almost every category."
"Go try and hire a male journalist," he said. "You can’t find any!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/16/tucker-carlson-male-journalist-women-workplace-job_n_5337073.html
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Tucker Carlson: Men Are Suffering In The Workplace, Not Women (Original Post) big_dog May 2014 OP
Great... a poster boy for the MRA movement. hlthe2b May 2014 #1
tucker makes us all suffer on Dancing with the Stars big_dog May 2014 #3
'Uninterrupted time' equals 'pregnancies'. randome May 2014 #2
He means women taking time off for family, I think davidn3600 May 2014 #7
Oh, I know it can hurt one's resume. randome May 2014 #12
And why do women do that? Gormy Cuss May 2014 #19
This is the perfect corollary to false equivalency... Wounded Bear May 2014 #4
Did he use the "supply and demand" argument to justify it? redqueen May 2014 #5
Poor Tucker. City Lights May 2014 #6
I think he's put on a few pounds lately... big_dog May 2014 #8
i was just about to say the same things. That forty extra pounds just crept up I guess..n/t monmouth3 May 2014 #10
Tucker got the freshman 40 late... big_dog May 2014 #11
WOW! City Lights May 2014 #18
I'd say it's time for men and women of the workplace to unite... hunter May 2014 #9
Exactly! The corporate CEO criminals are the ones who are really ruining things! Initech May 2014 #14
the CEO's of Chiplotle made 50 million EACH last year big_dog May 2014 #15
And the average worker probably got nothing. Maybe an extra $0.05 an hour. Initech May 2014 #21
Seriously - what era does he live in? Initech May 2014 #13
ProfessorGAC "Workers Are The One's Suffering In The Workplace" ProfessorGAC May 2014 #16
That would require him to be FOR something instead of AGAINST something. randome May 2014 #17
Well, Then I'd Be Happy If He Would Just Shut Up ProfessorGAC May 2014 #22
Honestly, I think Carlson's just fucking trolling everybody at this point. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #20
He's a professional troll. Initech May 2014 #23
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. 'Uninterrupted time' equals 'pregnancies'.
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:04 PM
May 2014

And men don't stand around with other men chatting about sports, weather and machines, do they?

Carlson's issues are showing again. He doesn't understand how much he embarrasses himself.
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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. He means women taking time off for family, I think
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:25 PM
May 2014

Many women take time off or reduce their hours even beyond standard maternity leave, especially if their husband has a high income.

Whether it's fair or not, that can kill your career or at least certainly put you behind your male peers. Men almost never take extended time off after a baby is born.

Many women have trouble getting upper management or high paychecks because they have these big breaks in their resumes that men don't have.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. Oh, I know it can hurt one's resume.
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:00 PM
May 2014

But Carlson needs to get on board with the changes! This is the 21st century and we are still pushing for equal treatment of men and women. That includes taking family time. It's changing, slowly but surely.

He may as well rail against marriage equality if he doesn't understand how out of touch he is.
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Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
19. And why do women do that?
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:41 PM
May 2014

Because we have such paltry maternity leave in this country and even less generous recognition of the value of paternity leave. We treat workers who take breaks to adjust to new family members as bad employees

Women are also subject to the view that they are less committed workers simply because they could have babies at some future point. Doesn't matter whether they ever do either --once they're old enough to be seen as past babymaking they've already had at least twenty years of suppressed wages because that presumption.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
4. This is the perfect corollary to false equivalency...
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:17 PM
May 2014

Call it "False non-equivalency" if you will.

Both men and women are suffering in today's economy. Women tend to suffer more than men in most cases, but all workers are being collectively and fundamentally screwed.

This is divide and conquer at it most basic level.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
9. I'd say it's time for men and women of the workplace to unite...
Fri May 16, 2014, 02:45 PM
May 2014

... and go after the wealthiest assholes of the media and wall street who are making the rest of us suffer.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
21. And the average worker probably got nothing. Maybe an extra $0.05 an hour.
Fri May 16, 2014, 04:02 PM
May 2014

Our economic system is seriously, seriously broken. I hope it's not completely beyond fixing but we definitely need to do something about it.

ProfessorGAC

(65,078 posts)
16. ProfessorGAC "Workers Are The One's Suffering In The Workplace"
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:20 PM
May 2014

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Longer hours. Increases below the rate of inflation for more than a decade.
Disposable parts and not really "human resources".

Tucker, if you ever had a real job (bloviating know-nothing is not a real job) you would be talking about WORKERS and not which gender has it bad or worse.
GAC

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. That would require him to be FOR something instead of AGAINST something.
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:22 PM
May 2014

It goes against his nature, that of an unpleasant, unhappy, unlikeable buffoon.
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AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
20. Honestly, I think Carlson's just fucking trolling everybody at this point.
Fri May 16, 2014, 03:41 PM
May 2014

I mean, seriously. What. The. Fuck.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
23. He's a professional troll.
Fri May 16, 2014, 04:05 PM
May 2014

And so is Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, and every other conservative radio/TV host you can name. I call them the "whining class".

Bill Maher had a great new rule about this a few weeks ago but I can't seem to find it.

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