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LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
Fri May 16, 2014, 06:58 PM May 2014

A New Length for Men's Shorts

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304831304579546312161483266


THE VERY WORD "hemline" can summon visions of midcentury women's fashion and the Byzantine bylaws that simply had to be followed whenever imperious French designers raised and lowered skirt lengths. Those crazy dames, right?

Guys, you're in the same game. For most of the past two decades, men's shorts have barely merited the name, dropping so far down the calf that Linnaeus would have stuck them in the pants family. Call them what you want—knickerbockers, breeches, clam diggers—the one thing they haven't been is particularly short.

Finally that's changed. And given how change in the menswear world is measured—think millimeters per decade rather than centimeters per season for women's wear—shorts are shortening quickly. In the past few years, the low-water-mark length of a 15-inch-or-so inseam receded to knee-length (11 inches), then a knee-baring 9 inches, then to a quadriceps-exposing 7 inches and on to the newly fashionable thigh-flaunting 5 inches. If men's shorts were a glacier in Greenland, scientists would be freaking out.

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Finally. I would never buy shorts because they were so long. Just work cut offs. May have to finally buy some "store bought" ones.

Edited to add a note. Women's shorter skirts (mini skirts) was said to herald the liberal era. I look back on when mens shorts went almost to the ankles as when conservatives got power. Does this mean we are in a move to a more liberal era.
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A New Length for Men's Shorts (Original Post) LiberalArkie May 2014 OP
My grandmother has snapshots of my uncles in the late 70's. Shandris May 2014 #1
It's like the 80's all over again 951-Riverside May 2014 #2
Ah, the half-shirt. I got demerits is high school for wearing those. arcane1 May 2014 #4
SCHEDULING 951-Riverside FOR ASS KICKING Skittles May 2014 #64
On a completely unrelated note, Chellee May 2014 #70
70s even 'shorty' Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #82
None of those are every close to approaching the shorts length of the 70s-80s... hlthe2b May 2014 #3
It's about freaking time. eShirl May 2014 #5
Part of the gansta look... Wounded Bear May 2014 #16
I agree-- I hate the long shorts. Marr May 2014 #22
Michael Jordan Hippo_Tron May 2014 #53
Who wears short shorts? pinboy3niner May 2014 #6
I wear short shorts! Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #65
Nair users KentuckyWoman May 2014 #67
I am so, so glad my club has the Bermuda length or lower rule AngryAmish May 2014 #7
Excellent. Nye Bevan May 2014 #8
Good. I don't like the baggy versions that are worn today. Cleita May 2014 #9
believe me, the baggy shorts are far more comfortable than the nuthuggers pictured in the OP frylock May 2014 #24
Baggy perhaps, but longer shorts are definitely a PITA on leg day, imho. RedCappedBandit May 2014 #43
Where did jockstraps go ? adigal May 2014 #46
I agree. I like my long cargo shorts. They're very comfortable. LuvNewcastle May 2014 #78
Bob Weir has been on that boat since the early 80's... Earth_First May 2014 #10
or is it that he never got on the Long Shorts boat in the first place? eShirl May 2014 #11
Indeed. Earth_First May 2014 #13
Nah, Bob has been seen wearing capris and sandals of late. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #40
Yeah. Earth_First May 2014 #42
I've seen some good Ratdog shows, too. "Two Djinn" is my favorite post-Dead, Dead song. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #44
Lemmy agrees zappaman May 2014 #50
My husband has a couple pair of "bobbys"... cyberswede May 2014 #54
Good. Those big baggy capri length shorts look silly. tanyev May 2014 #12
I always thought eShirl May 2014 #15
funny, i always thought it was because i didn't like my balls being cramped up around my belly frylock May 2014 #26
how does a longer leg solve that problem eShirl May 2014 #27
longer inseams usually provide more room in the crotch region.. frylock May 2014 #48
Really? That's odd. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #41
! frylock May 2014 #47
I'm sorry, really I am. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #49
you owe me a pale ale and a monitor wipe.. frylock May 2014 #52
I laughed 'til I had to go pee. nt msanthrope May 2014 #73
you should try all-american clothing d_r May 2014 #60
Those are still too long Duer 157099 May 2014 #14
Coincidence? My shorts length matches my hat size: 7 3/8" Brother Buzz May 2014 #17
Great all my shorts are back in style again! Neved did buy any baggy or below the knee shorts. Exposethefrauds May 2014 #18
You haven't bought new shorts for nearly 30 years?? boston bean May 2014 #45
I found a few above the knee shorts over the years that I picked up Exposethefrauds May 2014 #77
those tops and shorts look like they don't go together JI7 May 2014 #19
remember this guy JI7 May 2014 #20
There is a rule that the gut can not hang over a pair of cut offs. LiberalArkie May 2014 #23
no thanks.. frylock May 2014 #21
If you got 'em, show 'em! randome May 2014 #25
I see all the pointing and laughing still leaves you unfazed pinboy3niner May 2014 #37
That's the impenetrable shield of confidence, man! randome May 2014 #59
Long baggy shorts & oversized shirts have always befuddled me SoCalDem May 2014 #28
I never understood that, either! randome May 2014 #29
My son shaves his head SoCalDem May 2014 #39
I want these back from the 70's! William769 May 2014 #30
The guy on the left is getting close to the rule of no gut-hangover with cut-offs LiberalArkie May 2014 #31
Agreed. But I wasn't going to spend all night looking for the perfect picture. William769 May 2014 #32
I am glad that I can still wear my old cut-offs from when I was 30 LiberalArkie May 2014 #33
Good for you! William769 May 2014 #35
1970s football shorts: muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #34
In black shorts, I can't tell. William769 May 2014 #36
NBA early 80s itsrobert May 2014 #51
now this is just auntsue May 2014 #71
Mid-thigh? Just Say No! WinkyDink May 2014 #38
I wear what I wanna wear, screw the arbiters of what's "in" pinboy3niner May 2014 #55
Dang. Now I've got to work on my quads bhikkhu May 2014 #56
Reno 911 itsrobert May 2014 #57
Just got a pair of Dickies in the mail d_r May 2014 #58
I can probably work with the first 2, Jamaal510 May 2014 #61
Dedicated Follower Of Fashion hobbit709 May 2014 #62
NBA 1970 vs. NBA 2014. Shorts length. kwassa May 2014 #63
looks as stupid as eShirl May 2014 #69
There's nothing wrong with any of those shorts. bigwillq May 2014 #66
^^^^THIS^^^^^^ alittlelark May 2014 #74
fingertip would land you squarely in 70s NBA territory nt arely staircase May 2014 #68
Uhhh 2naSalit May 2014 #72
those in the middle are are culottes, would look better with some boots and a turtleneck, LOL. bettyellen May 2014 #81
Gaaayyy... Fearless May 2014 #75
And the common fashion error is : No gut hanging over the waist band and no Belt. LiberalArkie May 2014 #80
yep, i am gay as well m-lekktor May 2014 #83
Guess what? flvegan May 2014 #84
For the record Fearless May 2014 #85
Lemmy pulls it off. ForgoTheConsequence May 2014 #76
Mitt Romney's mom shorts are trending for 2016 Blue Owl May 2014 #79
It's a good look! Arugula Latte May 2014 #86
 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
1. My grandmother has snapshots of my uncles in the late 70's.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:02 PM
May 2014

I don't think I want most men's shorts getting that short again.

If they do, we may have to watch for the resurgence of the porn 'stache.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. Ah, the half-shirt. I got demerits is high school for wearing those.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:04 PM
May 2014

Some of them were even my sister's

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
3. None of those are every close to approaching the shorts length of the 70s-80s...
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:03 PM
May 2014

All look fine to me, but what do I know?

Too short is not so flattering to most imo--whether male or female

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
16. Part of the gansta look...
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:37 PM
May 2014

also look to the NBA. They went to the looser, longer shorts on their unis about that time. The two go together IMHO.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
53. Michael Jordan
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:17 PM
May 2014

His Bulls uniform shorts were long so he could wear his Carolina shorts underneath.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
65. I wear short shorts!
Fri May 16, 2014, 10:50 PM
May 2014

Or at least I did in the 1980s.

For a whole decade in Austin, I wore these 7" Ocean Pacific shorts. I'm embarrassed now.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
7. I am so, so glad my club has the Bermuda length or lower rule
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:09 PM
May 2014

Looking around the locker room is not a pretty sight. And the old guys playing gin wearing only towels....shudder...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Good. I don't like the baggy versions that are worn today.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:11 PM
May 2014

I can't imagine that they are that comfortable to work out in either.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
78. I agree. I like my long cargo shorts. They're very comfortable.
Sat May 17, 2014, 05:12 AM
May 2014

I wear boxers, anyway, so I couldn't wear those short ones. My underwear would be sticking out the bottom. I don't really follow fashion trends and fads. I wear whatever I like and whatever is the most comfortable for me. People are very informal where I live, so you can basically wear whatever you want to wear and nobody will care.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. Nah, Bob has been seen wearing capris and sandals of late.
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:36 PM
May 2014

Although it is entirely possible that the shorts have stayed the same size and he has shrunk.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
42. Yeah.
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:38 PM
May 2014

Saw Ratdog at Shea's over the winter.

He was definately rocking the capris and Tevas.

Great show, btw...

eShirl

(18,494 posts)
15. I always thought
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:22 PM
May 2014

they were shorts for homophobic people
(people afraid of wearing normal shorts lest they turn on Teh Gays)

frylock

(34,825 posts)
48. longer inseams usually provide more room in the crotch region..
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:12 PM
May 2014

look at the guys in the OP. cameltoe city!

Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
14. Those are still too long
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:18 PM
May 2014

Just 2 more inches or so is good imho. The 70s were ridiculous with the short shorts.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
18. Great all my shorts are back in style again! Neved did buy any baggy or below the knee shorts.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:46 PM
May 2014

Always knew it was a fad.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
77. I found a few above the knee shorts over the years that I picked up
Sat May 17, 2014, 04:39 AM
May 2014

besides it is not like I wear shorts everyday. Now once this hit the street I found no real need for shorts at all......

https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEVz1qHndTUyYAY1RXNyoA?p=borat&fr=yfp-t-307-s&fr2=piv-web

This and flip flops for my next flight!

JI7

(89,252 posts)
19. those tops and shorts look like they don't go together
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:48 PM
May 2014

they should have put them all in t shirts and the same shorts but of different lengths to really tell .

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
23. There is a rule that the gut can not hang over a pair of cut offs.
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:54 PM
May 2014

And you can tell that they are not the proper cut, no strings hanging down from the multitude of washings.

He is restricted to basket ball length shorts.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
25. If you got 'em, show 'em!
Fri May 16, 2014, 07:58 PM
May 2014

That's why I always go naked when I'm outside.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
59. That's the impenetrable shield of confidence, man!
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:28 PM
May 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
28. Long baggy shorts & oversized shirts have always befuddled me
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:07 PM
May 2014

These young men are at their prime. They spend hours at the gym, and then wear long, baggy culottes

It's high time they actually showed a little leg

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. I never understood that, either!
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

You practically read my mind!

The same thing with crew cut hair! Christ, why would someone in their 20s want to look like someone in their 50s?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
31. The guy on the left is getting close to the rule of no gut-hangover with cut-offs
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:13 PM
May 2014

it is not proper attire to have the waist band roll over.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
33. I am glad that I can still wear my old cut-offs from when I was 30
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:20 PM
May 2014

and now at 66, no hair now, but the same size clothes. I think it helps that I did tower climbing in my 30's is why I still have the same chest, waist and legs as I did way back then. Now if I only felt that way.

William769

(55,147 posts)
35. Good for you!
Fri May 16, 2014, 08:24 PM
May 2014

One thing I really disapprove of though is jean cut-offs, no shirt, cowboy hat, & cowboy boots at age 65 with a beer gut! Had a neighbor like that when I was a kid.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
55. I wear what I wanna wear, screw the arbiters of what's "in"
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:19 PM
May 2014

Some years ago somebody told me my haircut was "old-fashioned." I still have it--and it's probably "in" again now.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
56. Dang. Now I've got to work on my quads
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:21 PM
May 2014

Though if they get much shorter

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I may just be out of the game

d_r

(6,907 posts)
58. Just got a pair of Dickies in the mail
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:25 PM
May 2014

I was surprised by how long they are. They are like clam diggers. 13 inch inseam but seems longer.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
61. I can probably work with the first 2,
Fri May 16, 2014, 09:33 PM
May 2014

but the latter 2 look rough. I think the 7-inch shorts look uncomfortably tight around the groin area, and 5 inches almost looks like daisy-dukes. I'd get laughed or stared at if I wear either of those in public.
No thank you.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
72. Uhhh
Sat May 17, 2014, 01:49 AM
May 2014

Yeah... I dunno. Kind of think longer, like in the OP picture is best, if you have legs that hurt other people's eyes... and who says lengths for men don't change?







(yes, I know these are B-ball uniforms but they follow the same relative trend.)

Has to be a happy medium somehow.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
75. Gaaayyy...
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:13 AM
May 2014

(I'm gay, so alerters, leave me be.)

No really though, that's been a gay style for almost ten years. TBH, I always hated it. You have to have fairly toned legs to pull it off right. 90% of people don't. Just a fact of life.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
80. And the common fashion error is : No gut hanging over the waist band and no Belt.
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:03 AM
May 2014

And please no chicken legs especially pasty white ones.

If I remember correctly

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
83. yep, i am gay as well
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:20 AM
May 2014

and i would rather wear my baggyish below the knee shorts. i hate these short shorts. i notice aging hippies like the short ones as well, with socks yanked up the knees!

flvegan

(64,409 posts)
84. Guess what?
Sat May 17, 2014, 10:25 AM
May 2014

Yep, you were alerted on (not by me, I was a juror...and not Juror #1)


On Sat May 17, 2014, 10:07 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Gaaayyy...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4965790

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Homophobic weirdness.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat May 17, 2014, 10:21 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'll give a pass since Fearless is gay, but, I think the comment sounds like self-loathing bullshit. Maybe Fearless thinks 'do as I say, not as I do' works outside the LGBT forum. I probably should have voted to hide. I won't make this decision twice. Any more disparaging 'Gaaayyy' remarks, outside the LGBT forum, will get a hide in the future.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster states he (or she) is gay. If true, how is this "homophobic weirdness" and not observation, potentially?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No it is not. I am gay as well and see noghing wrong with this post.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Really, someone actually alerted on this? Even with the disclaimer? Fearless is one of the best voices for the lgtb community on this board, and was clearly kidding. Sheesh.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
85. For the record
Sat May 17, 2014, 02:09 PM
May 2014

I'll thank the alerter for looking out for and defending against homophobia, that's very kind of them. But definitely not self loathing. I just don't take myself overly seriously. But again thanks for having our backs to them add as well, it's very kind. And i will say I'm flattered by the final comment. That made my day!

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