Could be.

and probably an old good old boy network but you never know.

Sanford is half-way across the state from Tallahassee and the State Attorney General, or his assistant, was in Sanford by 8 PM.

Gotta wonder why the hell that meeting took place that night.

This good olde boy's network is business as usual and has many participants. I sense lot's of money in the loop too. It should be a huge take-down...but it won't happen...they're like the gangster mob in the 20's-to the 70's...they'll end up really just giving up a scapegoat and then say it's over...put a fork in it.

Hopefully Sharpton will keep this in the headlines. That might help.

It would be the rw equivalent of the Rodney King trial. I overheard two seminary educated guys at work discussing this today and the remarks were way over the top. According to them, Obama "shamed" America by saying his son would look like Trayvon.

I suspect all he did was scare them and therefore piss them off even more. Racists are a slimy bunch. They will feign outrage at anyone who shows them up for what they are.

Sleep under a rock.

Here is the general rule among cops...the furthest east and south you go, the worst the corruption gets.

There are exceptions to this less corruption rule on the west coast. *coughLAPD cough* for example.

This is a common joke among cops...

There are places that are well known for this, some even outside the deep south, certan precincts in New York, and New Jersey was real bad...these days they are just bad.

I suspect a couple departments locally suffer from this too.

Heard it from more than a few.

I really can't say it is that bad.

but they still have a serious problem playing well with others.

No I mean it, they do have an issue playing well with others.

I once got from one of their detectives a get out of minor trouble card (business card) and was told specifically that any other police dept in SoCal would double the penalties. Yes, I used it... in LA.

Cops tend to take care of those who take care of them, to be honest.

beause of the macho culture.

I have doubts that there will even be charges filed. FL. will not want to
be told what to do under the Obama Admin. and I believe if the can drum
up enough faux outrage on the right they are going to run with it. They
have already been trying to politicize this over the last few days.

Charging GZ at this point in time should not be an issue. They can drop
the charges or lower them later if that's what's recommended. They
simply do not want to do so for a variety of reasons we can only imagine.

Now is not the time for them to be trying the case, only to conclude
whether there is enough probable cause to make an arrest( if one has not
already been made) and charge. There is plenty of probable cause, yet
they stall.

And even if charges are filed and he is arrested he will be out on bail and the case slow walked and much later after it is all forgotten the charges reduced and a plea bargain is made where he spends no time in jail...and that is the best case we can hope for.
The system is corrupt and we cannot expect justice when the criminal has political power.

He only did it because the local police either wouldn't do their jobs or may have actually had a hand in covering up or even aiding the murders. The local police may not have filed any charges for murder, but the FBI filed charges of murder against the conspirators at the federal level.

If we assume that the Sanford Police Department may have buried or even destroyed evidence pertaining to this case, the FBI and/or the Civil Rights Division at the Justice Department may possibly become involved regardless of what the state government of Florida thinks because now it's an issue of official government misconduct pertaining to violating somebody's civil rights.

I know it's 2012 and not 1964, but I have a sneaking suspicion the local police authorities may have done some wrong here.

If I understand it correctly Old Man Zimmerman is retired military with a few years as a glorified court clerk in Virginia.

How in the world does that translate into such immense influence in Florida? It just doesn't compute.

He wasn't a retired supreme court justice for the cripes sake.

Daddy has huge connections, I feel it.... I'm chomping at the bit to know how, why and to what extent. ....If we uncover it then we maybe able to open this case....You don't have to be famous to garner such connections...

That his father has something to do with the School of the Americas....But that would be impossible to find out cause it is secret.
But he obviously has ties with South America.

other than this is where his wife is from?

I knew a guy that was involved in this...he was Hispanic and fluent in Spanish and spent a lot of time in South America.while in the Army.
And somehow had a great deal of money...And i am sure not from his Army pay...but to be fair he never talked much about what he did other than to say he was an instructor.
But I am well aware I am just speculating...and I do have a cynical mind.

Zimmerman (the kid) is a zero loser but daddy has some ties. That still begs the question of why this asshole been protected. Daddy isn't that connected or is he? Having been raised in a military household I know what a weird call in the night just might mean. IMHO this goes beyond the dad being a magistrate. Something is brewing in Florida.

They have so much shit that they can cover things with that no normal person can uncover the truth.
For a brief shining moment the press was independent and could dig some of it out....but that was co opted long ago...and should any one arise to do it they will swiftly be absorbed by the system
But you are right...what we know for sure is that something has gone on and is going on...what we don't know is how and why.

I'm inclined to think there's more than just money involved here. What is Zimmerman senior's real power, and why (in the one interview I saw) did he do it with his face obscured?

You guessed right.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503434
Here's the ANSWER from google re: Zimmerman influence (CIA)

to explode.

I really believe that.

I'd like to know why the State Attorney, Norman Wolfingers, travelled 50 miles on a Sunday night (Feb, 26) to the Sanford police station to overrule the recommendation of the investigating detective who wanted Zimmerman arrested.

I'd like to know if that same State Attorney was involved in ANY of the three prior charges against Zimmerman, charges that were lifted although for "mysterious" reasons (including a charge of violence against a police officer.. .which is normally a felony charge).

I'd like to know if there is ANY connection between this State Attorney and Robert Zimmerman, the former judge and father of the shooter, and if any of the prior charges were lifted due to undue pressure from the former judge.

I'd like to know whether the police is currently in possession of "medical records" that demonstrate the "extent" (or not) of Zimmerman's "injuries," including a CT SCAN of the head that would demonstrate a broken nose and/or cranial trauma.

I'd like to know where Zimmerman is currently.

Why should they bother going through all this if they aren't covering something up? The cops aren't doing it on their own. Those cops in the video are overweight and lazy and I don't think they're into some big time conspiracy just among themselves. They're living the easy life. That only comes from higher up. They're doing what they're told to do. Not making it up as they go. Fat and lazy cops just going through some minimal motions are a sign of something much higher enabling that behavior.

Not just Zimmerman's family and "friends", but even the right wing media is bending over backwards to defend him. It's crazy!

I fear this is going to cause race riots, because the PTB will do nothing.

When a hidden problem exists at a flash point in history wher the injustice is just getting to be too much to take.

Riots happen, sometimes even worse.

I hope justice is achieved, if it isn't, justice will find a more violent way.

We are at a flash point because shit like this happens all the time, one never knows exactly which act will be the final spark, this will likely become such a spark if not dealt with justly.

People only put up with so much for so long and then they explode. History is full of examples.

to see who he called that night, and when.

Which probably goes MILES towards explaining why Zimmerman has yet to be charged.

still the same people who have to bring charges. It's pretty obvious that strings were pulled to get George's arrest squashed. I presume none of the conspirators were assuming this would ever have gotten the national attention that it has had. Social media has really shown how it can point a huge spotlight and magnifying glass on a cover-up like this.

I think the indictment will come down, but it will be from people higher up the chain calling the shots. And these same people who facilitated the cover-up may well end up getting charged as Accessories after the fact. There's going to be federalcivil rights charges, too, I think. Sadly, George may still walk because of the actions of the Sanford PD in not properly securing the scene and arresting/processing GZ that evening. He could go free, but these other people may not.

Assuming GZ is arrested, Court TV is going to have trial that will make people forget Casey Anthony.

change of venue...

No direct witnesses to refute GZ's testimony, no crime scene evidence, and the SYG law that made this possible. I hope it doesn't turn out this way, but I think it might.

person was screaming for help, not two. they will be able to determine whose voice it is.
there is one eyewitness. there are the medics on the scene who can testify as to Zimmerman's "injuries".
There is the AMA document Nadin told us about, which will tell us if there were injuries to Zimmerman.
Zimmerman refused the ambulance. They sent it back. There is paperwork.

There is going to be a whole lot of evidence....

But between "beyond a reasonable doubt" and "Stand Your Ground", I'm not optimistic.

Well, I guess that's a matter of perspective.

For the Martin family and friends it is huge. Same goes for the Zimmermann family. This is a HUGE event for both of them.

I think it will give some reporters (Nancy Grace & Friends) something to talk about for a couple of years. For them and their dedicated watchers it will be "huge."

It also may be decisive for stand your ground laws nationwide.

As far as "huge" in the manner of attorneys, sheriffs, and deputies facing real charges, no I don't expect much of that. Some may well lose their jobs, but the cover up crimes will likely be swept away.

is big news and people will be talking about it. Especially if it is shown to be a cover up. It could cause people to take a closer look at Police cover ups and treatment of minority's all over the country and end up taking others down. Itcould also hurt the NRA and at least bruise the ego's of the far Right.

It' might stay sensational for a while but I doubt anything truly positive will come of all of this.

Some people might walk away with some lost jobs and Zimmermann may go to jail, but I really don't expect that there will be any national change that comes from this case. I would also lay serious money down on the bet that no attorney of cop will face any charge over this. Hell they'll be lucky to convict the racist fuck that murdered that innocent child.

Look at Rodney King. They had clear video evidence of that abuse. There was a week of riots and that was about it. Ask a teenager who RK is. They'll probably give you a dumb look.

.. I would be very happy with GZ going to jail along with those who would deny Martin justice by engaging in illegal tampering with the evidence. That would be a HUGE win.

They have until Tuesday before people start demanding answers. Just my guess.

Who could or could not be called as witnesses in a criminal trial?

Would he be presenting a case favoring the Defense if he calls the Police and Fire Dept. as witnesses. Seems to me he would have to prosecute the Police along with Zimmerman to make his case. Also could Wolfinger the recused DA be called? Would he be hostile to the State case? Just wondering. I think Sharpton is being unreasonable. I also think he is doing damage to other causes.
What Civil Disobedience is he referring to? I just do not get it. Sharpton is standing on shaky ground in my opininion.