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shenmue

(38,506 posts)
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:11 AM May 2014

Janet Porter: NBA's Jason Collins' homosexuality 'very dangerous to our freedoms'

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/porter-jason-collins-homosexuality-very-dangerous-our-freedoms

Janet Porter is in some kind of group called Faith 2 Action. I've never heard of them before, either. She went on a show hosted by nutty reverend Gordon Klingenschmitt and said some interesting stuff.

From article:
"Somehow during the conversation, Porter and Klingenschmitt ended up talking about gay NBA player Jason Collins, whom Porter asserted proves that nobody is born gay because Collins has an identical twin brother who is straight and so Collins' "choice" to be gay, she asserted, represents a dire threat to the freedom of Christians in America."



What? How? Does Porter stop people from going to church? I don't get it.

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Janet Porter: NBA's Jason Collins' homosexuality 'very dangerous to our freedoms' (Original Post) shenmue May 2014 OP
We found the fucking brain structures six years ago! Prophet 451 May 2014 #1
No, they will never catch up......... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #4
Makes me glad tmfaiis experiential Prophet 451 May 2014 #5
Freedumb™ GeorgeGist May 2014 #2
So, a homosexual's freedom infringes on my freedom, but... DetlefK May 2014 #3
Everything is a dire threat to the freedom of Christians everywhere. Arkana May 2014 #6
Dear Janet, Are_grits_groceries May 2014 #7
This calls for an old internet meme gollygee May 2014 #8

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
1. We found the fucking brain structures six years ago!
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:17 AM
May 2014

We found the brain structures that set sexuality six years ago, they indicated that sexuality was set in the womb (although we don't yet know how) and every psychological organisation on earth has ruled out choice. Are these lunatics ever going to catch up or is this yet another tenet of teh right-wing faith?

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
4. No, they will never catch up.........
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:31 AM
May 2014

Whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim or any other faith, if you engage in a literal interpretation and application of historic religious texts you box yourself in.

As science begins to unlock many of life's mysteries, if those discoveries and understandings conflict with a literal reading of historic texts you have no choice but to reject science. There is no other choice for these people.

Rather than understanding these texts, especially the Bible, as only quasi-historic and in many cases allegorical or illustrative rather than literal, fundamentalists believe every word has come down to them in unadulterated form from on high.

So whether it is climate change, sexual orientation, evolution, etc. if the holy texts contradict science the holy text prevails for them.

As a Christian, I have no problem with understanding the creation story as beautiful and simple. I see it as a story that people of the time would understand. But now that science has largely explained the origins of life on this planet and evolution describes a process by which life has advanced and improved over time, I understand that as the creation story. I still enjoy the creation story from the Bible for its simplicity but accept it as allegory.

These people cannot do that.

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
5. Makes me glad tmfaiis experiential
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:39 AM
May 2014

That is, constructed through experience with the deity (Father Lucifer in my case).

On some level, I have to wonder if the need to believe these things on a literal level is feeding some other psychological need. Purely on an anecdotal basis, I have found that many "Bible Believing" Christians are among the nastiest people I've met and so, I have to wonder if they don't want to hold this as literal so they can imagine people they disagree with burning in hell. A kind of religious revenge fantasy.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. So, a homosexual's freedom infringes on my freedom, but...
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:25 AM
May 2014

someone else's religious freedom does not infringe on my freedom?

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
6. Everything is a dire threat to the freedom of Christians everywhere.
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:44 AM
May 2014

God, I wonder what it's like to live your life constantly under siege.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
7. Dear Janet,
Tue May 20, 2014, 08:54 AM
May 2014

Here's a thought. Y'all use the phrase "The Father, the son, and the Holy Spirit" That connotates that all 3 are God in one big mutant deity or whatever.

You keep pushing the meaning of the beginning of life so far back in the process that soon you will reach the point of believing it begins when the thought of a child occurs.
If so, then did Jesus have sex with his mother?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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