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Should liberals play the lottery? (Original Post) LoZoccolo Mar 2012 OP
Maybe. ithinkmyliverhurts Mar 2012 #1
gees.... why not??? should liberals drink orange juice trueblue2007 Mar 2012 #30
Speak for yourselves, but I just can't get into it. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #2
You want the tight assed cons to have that kind of money? DJ13 Mar 2012 #3
50 cents to education & 50 cents for the dream .... sure they should. BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #4
If they want to, they should. If they don't want to, they shouldn't. nt gateley Mar 2012 #5
Should liberals gamble or take risks at all? Should conservatives? haele Mar 2012 #6
The lottery benefits senior citizens in PA. MrSlayer Mar 2012 #7
The lottery is a poor tax. joshcryer Mar 2012 #8
It's a voluntary tax. n/t cynatnite Mar 2012 #9
The lottery is a tax on people whose math skills aren't very good DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #15
SMBC says it best: joshcryer Mar 2012 #18
I saw a mathematician talking about the odds of winning the lottery Liquorice Mar 2012 #28
It's also voluntary. boxman15 Mar 2012 #14
It's also regressive. joshcryer Mar 2012 #17
It can be ... spin Mar 2012 #16
not a political decision for me to not play the lottery - NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 #10
Sure. Why not? spin Mar 2012 #11
that depends fishwax Mar 2012 #12
If a person wants to play the lottery, it's their right. boxman15 Mar 2012 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #19
Should we inject politics into everything? Aerows Mar 2012 #20
Hear hear! kudzu22 Mar 2012 #25
I buy a ticket every few months Mz Pip Mar 2012 #21
If they want to. yewberry Mar 2012 #22
YES!!! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!! ElboRuum Mar 2012 #23
Actually from a mathematical perspective, you *should* play the lottery kudzu22 Mar 2012 #24
Tell us when you find a lottery like that muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #29
Only if they want to. Otherwise absolutely not. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #26
No. If you want to bet, bet against irrationality, not against the house. saras Mar 2012 #27
Why not? HappyMe Mar 2012 #31
no, and they shouldn't drink, smoke, swear or chew or associate with those who do Douglas Carpenter Mar 2012 #32
should liberals chew Trident? bart95 Mar 2012 #33

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
30. gees.... why not??? should liberals drink orange juice
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:07 AM
Mar 2012

are you picking on us?

are you saying lotteries are bad??

what kind of point are you trying to make?

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
2. Speak for yourselves, but I just can't get into it.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:08 PM
Mar 2012

I consider it to be a tax on people who don't understand probablity.

I don't see much thrill in it, and I've got better things to do with what little money I've got.

haele

(12,654 posts)
6. Should liberals gamble or take risks at all? Should conservatives?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:13 PM
Mar 2012

Depends on the person and how much they're spending.
Some of the biggest bible-thumping conservatives have an un-official office pool going.
One dyed in the wool Republican talks about going to the casinos on the weekend - it's a cultural thing with him and his family. He's the"Big man" and plays cards, his wife plays the penny slots while he's in the card room; they leave after they've either lost $200, or got tired.

My take - once in a while - eh, who cares?
If it affects the rent or mortgage, then there's a problem - but that's not a political issue, that's a personal issue.

Haele

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
15. The lottery is a tax on people whose math skills aren't very good
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:26 PM
Mar 2012

I saw something like that on a bumper sticker once.

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
28. I saw a mathematician talking about the odds of winning the lottery
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:17 AM
Mar 2012

tonight on 20/20. He said he bought 5 tickets in the Mega Millions drawing. We all have our dreams.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
14. It's also voluntary.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:25 PM
Mar 2012

A person can choose not to play the lottery. True, a losing lottery ticket takes more out of a poor person's paycheck than that of a rich person, but that's the risk. You can choose not to play.

spin

(17,493 posts)
16. It can be ...
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Mar 2012

but all you need is one ticket for each draw. The chances of winning are astronomical but absolutely zero if you don't buy one ticket.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
10. not a political decision for me to not play the lottery -
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
Mar 2012

I can't see how winning a huge sum of money will not change one's life - to me, it wouldn't be for the better. No more privacy, no more urgency - to my wife and I, it's not how it works.

So no, thanks - not for me - but it is a personal choice, and I have no issues with those who are avid lottery players.

spin

(17,493 posts)
11. Sure. Why not?
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:23 PM
Mar 2012

If I win the lotto I plan to try to do a lot of good with the money I get after taxes. All I need is enough money to not have to worry about basic needs for what remains of my life and to give my grandsons a decent education and the rest can go to help others. I have no problem living a simple life and have little desire to live like the rich and famous.

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
13. If a person wants to play the lottery, it's their right.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:24 PM
Mar 2012

Ideology has little to do with it. I bought ten tickets for the Mega Millions tonight (only to be shocked to find out I lost). I'm OK with it because 1) I can afford buying $10 of tickets and 2) The money goes to education here in Michigan.

I don't think lower income people should be buying so many lottery tickets. But if they choose to, it's their right. That's an opinion based off of income, not ideology.

Response to LoZoccolo (Original post)

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
21. I buy a ticket every few months
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:43 PM
Mar 2012

It's not a regular thing. I won $24 last time. I don't make a habit of it.

ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
23. YES!!! A THOUSAND TIMES YES!!!
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:26 AM
Mar 2012

If you haven't played the lottery yet, you are a BAD liberal!!!

There, conflation of apolitical concept to really serious business complete.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
24. Actually from a mathematical perspective, you *should* play the lottery
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:27 AM
Mar 2012

If the chance of winning is 1 in 170 million, and you stand to win more than 170 million dollars, then game theory says you should play that game all day long.

Expected value of playing > Price of playing

Yes, I did take probability and statistics.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
29. Tell us when you find a lottery like that
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:03 AM
Mar 2012

Remember that you have to factor in how many people might pick the same numbers as you. While prize money carried over from previous draws could, in theory, mean one has a higher expected value of playing than price, in practice any big prize like that attracts enough new players to keep the price higher - even though they haven't bothered to work out the value and price.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
27. No. If you want to bet, bet against irrationality, not against the house.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:38 AM
Mar 2012

Win or lose, you're programming yourself to be dumb.

Nick the Greek had it right. Wait until someone is willing to bet with bad odds because they're SURE they're going to win this time. Bet against the. Rake in the dough.

Just don't bet your right arm merely because the odds are in your favor. The odds are in favor of the odds screwing you if you let them.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
32. no, and they shouldn't drink, smoke, swear or chew or associate with those who do
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:41 AM
Mar 2012

or attend dances, go to movies or play cards or engage in impure thoughts...

"Whenever I see an American with a glow in their eyes talking about workers and peasants uniting..Something deep inside my heart tells me to watch out...There is a new brand of Irish Catholicism on the rise." - Eugene O'Neill


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bart95

(488 posts)
33. should liberals chew Trident?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:57 AM
Mar 2012

those 4 out of 5 dentists may have been taking kickbacks, that 5th dentist may be the only one with enough integrity to say 'no' to corporate influence

should liberals be chewing gum at all? chewing gum sets a bad example,and many people are not responsible enough to dispose of it, leaving lost puppies to suffer gum stuck to their feet

but should you be even thinking abbout this at all? you might get distracted and get hit by a bus, forcing everyone else to pay for your healthcare
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