Yes, I suspect the illegal house parties were associated with underage drinking. I think the assault on a cop charge happened at a bar, when the plainclothes cop was attempting to arrest an underage friend of Zimmy. I discount the various conspiracy theories floating about. I think what happened is what appears. An overzealous wanna be vigilante was determined to not let "them get away" this time, and in his attempt to illegally detain Trayvon he shot him. Then racist persons in the SPD and SA just instinctively whitewashed the murder of a black youth by a white person. I suspect the FBI/DOJ investigation will turn up other incidents of similar nature.

They lived in Manassas Virginia -- many career military and defense contractors live in Northern Virginia. The Pentagon is commutable from there, as is the CIA, as is the NSA, as are many defense contract companies and consultants.

The mother was a court clerk in Virginia for 20 years. This indicates that if Robert Sr. was military, he worked in the Washington metro area.

Hmm. Military career, then an obscure job as magistrate. Early retirement (im guessing hes late 50s or early 60s) and move to Florida. Perhaps whistleblower or witness protection program?

Seems to have more protections than an indangered species. Somebody's got his back

Plus the private prison industry is alive and well and ready to receive any human being who can be rounded up.

My boyfriend's son was incarcerated in sunny Florida. He is mentality slow, was either raped or was someone's prison bitch, now is HIV positive.

The outcome doesn't seem all that rosey for Mr Snitchy Narc, dispenser of Glenn Beck's ideals of social injustice.

Judge Pappy, must be crapping his black robes fearing for his demon spawn. Lots of tazing, pepper spray, and physical abuse in those hellholes.

upon him. I don't understand why those on the VICIOUS far right can't see where this mindset is leading. I guess it's okay for the brown, yellow, red, black and poor. Yeah, zimmy is going to get his commeuppance, big time. It's obvious that they're all lying as evidenced by the MUTATING LIES that don't match everybody's version. They can't keep their stories straight and are adding "facts' like a cook making a big pot of gumbo.

The young man has some kind of deficits in intellect as well as poor emotional/impulse control. He must be around 30. My bf first mentioned how skinny and beaten down his child became while in prison. It took months of getting off parole and through a job training program that failed, to find out he contracted HIV in prison. Seems like a sue-able offence to not protect your charges from an avoidable life sentence for petty crime. Prison health care is subcontracted to outside agencies that stand to increase corporate profits by denying health care which includes testing for HIV/AIDES or the rampant hepatitis epidemic inside. Prisoners are not kept safe on many levels.

I do believe in humanitarian treatment of prisoners, mental patients, developmentally delayed, any one in custody of a state or federal agency should be treated with humanity. Yes, more humanity than they showed their victims. Because we can not sink to the level of our enemies. Which is what happens when we start to hate.

It happened to me in an instant on this board. I assumed the identity of a vigilante redneck playing around with how one might think. Sounded just like the hater I was hating. I became what I professed to be exposing and fighting against.

Hard to love your enemies. But that is really what it takes.

the secret police force of the gated community gang members.

It's about hiding something else.

The attention on George (who himself is an inconsequential nobody) threatens exposure of something else.

What is it?

Racketeering?

Corruption?

What is it?

And why did the dad talk to TV cameras with his face obscured?

The brother who hasn't spoken with George for two years was happy to be on TV telling us what George thought and felt that night.

Where is George's wife, incidentally? What do we know about her?

might come a-knockin'?

is showing their faces but not daddyzimmy. Something's about to break.

Why is the RW establishment going all out to protect a registered Democrat?

Unheard of.

We know:
-- He's a Vietnam vet
-- He served as a magistrate from 2000 - 2006

Other than that, I can't find any info on his education or work history. What was his job before 2000? From the Vietnam war until 2000 covers 25 years. Certainly enough time to put in your years with the CIA and walk away with a nice retirement.

...so despite the fact that he was a magistrate, he apparently is not a lawyer.

you didn't need to be a college graduate.

just a disassociated tidbit for the hopper.

The first states attorney Wolfinger is a board member of another gated community not too far away.

Maybe.

And that bullying made him the scheming murderous racist he is today.

Since this thread is about "speculating wildly"...

The NRA appiled political pressure to enforce the laws it worked so hard to enact:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002491544

Zimmerman, who by all accounts was a cop wannabe, was in his vehicle going, according to his father, to the grocery store while armed saw Trayvon Martin and, because of the color of his skin, decided immediately he was suspicious. He then decided to follow him, first in his vehicle and then on foot, making a non-emergency 911 call about his suspicions. At the time of his 911 call, he had already left his vehicle and was on foot given his breathing heard on the 911 tape in addition to the question asked by the 911 operator as to whether Zimmerman was following the 'suspicious' person. Zimmerman ignored the subsequent response by the operator for him to stop following the person and continued to chase Trayvon Martin until he caught up with him, tackled him and subsequently shot him in cold blood.

The police arrived within 5 minutes of the killing, confiscate the gun and handcuff Zimmerman who was looked over by the EMS responders while in the back of the police vehicle and was deemed to be without any serious injury. A phone call made by someone with clout resulted in State Attorney Wolfinger AND police chief Lee going to the police station, unusual to say the least, and the phone call was made very quickly because Wolfinger and Lee were at the police station when Zimmerman arrived there. The decision was made VERY shortly after and over the objection of the chief investigator to not charge Zimmerman and he was released within two hours after he arrived at station and that decision was made because of the clout whoever made that phone call between the killing and the arrival of Zimmerman to the station.

Who has enough clout to do that? What is the connection between Wolfinger and the Zimmerman family? I have NO doubt there is a connection because of Wolfinger's recusing himself because of a conflict of interest not explained.

Edited to add: Could the connection between Wolfinger and the Zimmerman family be with George Zimmerman's wife who, interestingly, is rarely mentioned, the fact that Zimmerman is married at all is rarely mentioned.

that would send the SA and the Police Chief racing down to the station and the SA subsequently recusing himself due to conflict of interest which remains unexplained, I started to wonder about Zimmerman's wife who has remained completely out of the picture and out of the media's eye which I find somewhat unusual.

George's wife.

Married in 2007

What interest could they possibly have in coming to the defense of a Latino Democrat?

Must just be about guns for them.

It surely wouldn't be about hating Black Americans more than they might hate Latinos. Right?

Is more about protecting the Arms Cartel that is our weapons/military industrial complex right to carry out a bloodthirsty, ghoulish, murderous, profit making, business plan (ALEC) with the compassion of a psychopathic killer, in the guise of the 2nd Amendment protection. They just want to sell hand guns like hunting rifles. They hope you are so stupid that that you can't tell what gun is for killing people and which one is for hunting game on 4 legs.

Sounds like the NRA is advocating open season on anybody in the darker shades of sun tan on the Florida beaches. Hand guns are for hunting humans. It's a people killer, gun.

I SURE AS HELL WOULD NEVER VACATION IN A SUNNY STATE THAT HATES A NICE DARK TAN AND PUSHES HUMAN HUNTING SEASON.

Father, as we suspected, may be as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002503434