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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:03 AM May 2014

We (and This Includes You, Democrats) Have Blown a Huge Hole in the Safety Net

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/05/23-6


In the United States of America, according to government statistics, there are at least 6 million people whose incomes are composed only of food stamps. Shame on us, writes the author. (Photo: talkpoverty.org)


You can count on your fingers, and maybe a toe or two, the number of otherwise progressive public officials and policy experts inside the Beltway who want to talk about the gaping hole in our safety net for mothers and children. Up to and including President Obama, the mainstream Democratic position on cash assistance for families with children is that we reformed welfare in 1996 and that the ensuing policy regime is a roaring success.

This is just plain wrong.

Lest I be immediately dismissed in what I am about to say (and the usual suspects will do so anyway), let me be clear that the main way to end poverty is jobs that result in a livable income, and the education necessary to get and keep those jobs. The totality of strategies to reduce poverty also includes healthy communities and necessary services—including health and mental health services—child care, legal services, and more. A discussion of welfare is not the same as a discussion of how to end poverty.

But one part of an antipoverty strategy is indeed a safety net. And this is where people who should know better (or actually do) are averting their eyes.
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We (and This Includes You, Democrats) Have Blown a Huge Hole in the Safety Net (Original Post) xchrom May 2014 OP
And OUR CHILDREN are suffering!!! chervilant May 2014 #1
We haven't seen anything yet yeoman6987 May 2014 #30
No, it's ALWAYS the republican's fault n2doc May 2014 #2
! xchrom May 2014 #3
When I Hear That liberalmike27 May 2014 #19
But it makes me wonder PatrickforO May 2014 #21
I suspect most of them (us) do Armstead May 2014 #35
You clearly haven't met the yahoo who represents my House district... DeadLetterOffice May 2014 #47
i dont have to. i have the greatest rep. mopinko May 2014 #48
Why is that when the GOP is in control they get what they want? And when they're out of power too. Armstead May 2014 #34
Two party system. See Gore Vidal on the topic. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #42
Control is not enough. Until we have 100% of both House and Senate, plus the WH... Demo_Chris May 2014 #4
what we really need... tomp May 2014 #7
That won't work either. If we have 100% we must be magnanimous and form a GoneFishin May 2014 #14
Yep. bvar22 May 2014 #22
And all D appointed SCOTUS judges ctsnowman May 2014 #15
You should study how LBJ got his legislation through Congress. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #43
That little whine and twenty bucks will get you a cup of coffee at the Ritz psiman May 2014 #49
Agree with you 100% ... for years, I've been saying that education and jobs were the key. n/t secondwind May 2014 #5
Cut the Crap™ MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6
If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba May 2014 #8
The 1% ctsnowman May 2014 #16
... xchrom May 2014 #29
Pretty much the same, apparently. Scuba May 2014 #45
Don't Worry be Happy ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #9
Its been downhill for the Working CLass & Poor... bvar22 May 2014 #23
You are 100% correct. I would MUCH rather have a J-O-B than SNAP benefits! ColesCountyDem May 2014 #10
This happened to a family member - TBF May 2014 #13
But ... Obama went for a walk - TBF May 2014 #11
Who was that guy Thespian2 May 2014 #12
Look South. bvar22 May 2014 #24
To the greedy rich, a third world nation is actually a good thing. You can stretch your ill GoneFishin May 2014 #27
Over on the other board someone posted a graphic that states that O's net worth CrispyQ May 2014 #31
K & R...for exposure... Wounded Bear May 2014 #17
I have been involved with welfare assistance programs since 1966 when I was a divorced single jwirr May 2014 #18
Hear, hear! smallcat88 May 2014 #32
We are never going to get those majorities unless the Democrats truly turn populist and newthinking May 2014 #37
I agree that the Democrats need to stop moving to the center. Back when I was talking about they jwirr May 2014 #40
Excellent post Arthur_Frain May 2014 #39
K & R historylovr May 2014 #20
A few months ago ProSense May 2014 #25
And Clinton signed "welfare reform" as a sop to the right... villager May 2014 #26
6 million seems low. I bet it's a lot higher than that. nt Rhymes With Orange May 2014 #28
Could you tell me which political parties are working to change this? Tikki May 2014 #33
Oh Crap. More of this shit. Armstead May 2014 #36
Yes, same old poop, different day... bayareaboy May 2014 #41
K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #38
K&R for excellent political strategy. Anytime a policy hurts kids, it is bad policy McCamy Taylor May 2014 #44
Trickle Down, bay-bee! Even Obama "believes" it!!! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #46
Unpaid Work = $450 BILLION a year to replace mntleo2 May 2014 #50
I smell Karl Rove! nt Cryptoad May 2014 #51

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
1. And OUR CHILDREN are suffering!!!
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:22 AM
May 2014

Almost a fourth of our children live in abject poverty! Cannot you imagine what that means?!? How can a child learn to read or write when they haven't eaten, and their wee tummy feels like it's going to eat itself? How can a child experience the joys of childhood if every day represents a struggle to survive?

Yeah, I think Johnson was spot on when he said that patriotism is the last refuge to which a scoundrel clings...

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
30. We haven't seen anything yet
Sat May 24, 2014, 02:13 PM
May 2014

I fear for our future and our children's future and others......it is going to get UGLY. I am glad that I am 1/2 way done....I know that sounds awful, but that is how bad I think things are going to get.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. No, it's ALWAYS the republican's fault
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:31 AM
May 2014

Even when Democrats control both congress and the WH, it's still their fault. Or Joe Lieberman's.

Or so I've been told.

liberalmike27

(2,479 posts)
19. When I Hear That
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:11 AM
May 2014

I know the person saying it doesn't understand how the government works.

Look into this thing called the "Filibuster." You'll find the word "control" does not apply.

That said, I think Bill Clinton should have vetoed Welfare reforms in the late 1990s. But they had him by his privates so while he was on trial, he was quite accommodating of what Republicans wanted to do in Congress.

Reagan and Bush paved the way, in particular by appointing members to the FCC, that eventually did away with any fairness in our media, by repealing the Fairness Doctrine.

If you want to use the word "control," we need about 65 Democrats in the Senate, the House needs to be Democratic, and a Democratic president. Then if they do nothing, I'll be right there with you, this time with an accurate complaint.

All I can say is, the first thing they'd better do is reform money in politics, and the electoral, voting systems to assure we can get to the polls, we have enough machines, and gerrymandering is a thing of the past, as if they start doing other things without addressing this, wow, the rich will be emptying out half of their fortunes to evict as many of them as possible, as quickly as possible.

PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
21. But it makes me wonder
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

How many of the many posters on progressive sites like this have actually contacted their members of the US House and Senate over issues they care about - written them, emailed them or best yet, called their office up. We are supposedly a government 'of, by and for' the people, and it COULD be that way if we as a people watched the politicians we elect as closely as we keep track of the contestants on The Idol.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
35. I suspect most of them (us) do
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:47 PM
May 2014

But we SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

We elect them to represent our interests and goals. We shouldn't have to constantly have to try to micromanage them to try nd convince them to do the right things and not do the wrong ones.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
47. You clearly haven't met the yahoo who represents my House district...
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:07 PM
May 2014

Although in fairness I didn't elect him, because he doesn't even come close to representing my interests and goals. It's vaguely possible that he represents the interests and goals of the people who voted for him. I personally think it's more likely that he represents the goals and interests of the people/groups that FUNDED him...

mopinko

(70,202 posts)
48. i dont have to. i have the greatest rep.
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:43 PM
May 2014

could have to do with how hard core active we are around here, but we have elected jan schakowsky, and the late great sid yates.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
34. Why is that when the GOP is in control they get what they want? And when they're out of power too.
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:44 PM
May 2014

When they have majorities nd the WH the GOP will ram though things willy nilly, and block things and just generally have a grand old time advancing their agenda. Often with the support of too many Democrats helping to push them over the line. (Remember the Iraq War?)

But when Democrats are in control....awwww shucks we can't do anything because the GOP has (fill in whatever blanks are in vogue at the moment.) And the GOP agenda continues to advance.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
4. Control is not enough. Until we have 100% of both House and Senate, plus the WH...
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:50 AM
May 2014

Until that day Democrats have no choice but to follow the GOP plan.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
14. That won't work either. If we have 100% we must be magnanimous and form a
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:44 AM
May 2014

bipartisan board for all proposed bills, comprised of 50% neo-con advisors to assure that no one feels left out.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
22. Yep.
Sat May 24, 2014, 12:42 PM
May 2014

We wouldn't want to hurt the Republican's feelings,
and just imagine what Hannity or Rush would say!!!

We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the mediocre,
and Obama has to be President of ALL the people,
not just Democrats.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
43. You should study how LBJ got his legislation through Congress.
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:25 PM
May 2014

It is very informative. He worked like a dog. A yellow dog. You do not need a super majority. You need someone who is determined and it helps to have a Humphrey at your side.

 

psiman

(64 posts)
49. That little whine and twenty bucks will get you a cup of coffee at the Ritz
Sun May 25, 2014, 01:24 AM
May 2014

The last time the Democrats you despise had control of both houses of Congress, we gave you the most significant advance in public health in half a century. You purity trolls punished that achievement by throwing the 2010 elections to the Republicans, a spectacular act of spite that destroyed any chance for any sort of progressive reform on any issue.

But you blame Obama because he Didn't. Even. Try.

Whatever, Jim. Come back when you figure out how the government works. High schools have classes in that sort of thing, check it out.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. Cut the Crap™
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:03 AM
May 2014

These are just sensible, responsible, common-sense measures that both parties can come together on. They've allowed us to reduce our deficits by record amounts during an economic freefall, with the additional benefit of ensuring awesome Wall Street jobs for our families.

Regards,

Important people who don't give a #%^* about the 99%

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
8. If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ...
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:44 AM
May 2014

... just what is it the defense budget is defending?

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
23. Its been downhill for the Working CLass & Poor...
Sat May 24, 2014, 12:45 PM
May 2014

...since the Democratic Party became Clintonized.



[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font]
[/center] [center] [/font]
[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center]
[/font]

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
10. You are 100% correct. I would MUCH rather have a J-O-B than SNAP benefits!
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:49 AM
May 2014

My income consists of $189/mo. in Link (SNAP) benefits and $125/mo. 'transitional' cash assistance from my township government. My church provides for my rent and utilities, thank God (no pun intended).

After 161 quarters of gainful employment-- a figure supported by official Social security records, with contributions beginning at age 14-- I did not suddenly decide upon a life of 'leisure', as virtually every Republican and not a few Democrats seem to think. I need to work, I want to work and I want the DIGNITY that being employed has always given me!

The social safety net has been shredded beyond recognition.

TBF

(32,086 posts)
13. This happened to a family member -
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:39 AM
May 2014

over 40 and college degree. He was solid in the 90s making a lot of money but the layoffs started coming in the 2000's. Then the resume looks spotty because you take what you can get for jobs.

He's decided to be a truck driver now. He's always liked vehicles and is handy with them so it might actually work for him. Not what he expected to be doing at this point in his life though ...

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
12. Who was that guy
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:35 AM
May 2014

who talked about feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, housing the homeless, and healing the sick? Replaced by the morally reprehensible leaders of America who feed the greed of the 1% and ignore the myriad problems in their country, especially anything adversely affecting the poor, the uneducated, the needy. These leaders (?) spend most of their time collecting money from the greedy bastards who actually control the governments of the country: federal, state, and local.

If these leaders, including the president, cared about the hungry, the naked, the homeless, the sick...they could solve the problems rather quickly. Stop building useless war machines, close the Pentagon by combining all military services into one Army, close the useless bases around the world, close all the military playgrounds maintained around the world (includes resorts and golf courses), and spend the money instead to provide for the needs of all people in America. In other words, kill the military-industrial complex that Ike warned about decades ago.

Yes, I fully understand the greedy bastards will never do this. America will continue its role as a third-world country. This outcome is the end plan of corporatists, including Hillary Clinton.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. Look South.
Sat May 24, 2014, 12:51 PM
May 2014

No.
Not the Southern USA, but Latin America.
In many Latin American countries, the People have wrested their governments from the hands of their Oligarchs through near bloodless Ballot Box revolutions.
They have given us a Blue Print for "change".

When America's Working Class & Poor realize WE have more in common with each other
than we have in common with our 1% and their mouth pieces in Washington,
then WE can have "change" too!

Spread the WORD.
VIVA Democracy!
I pray we get some here soon!

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
27. To the greedy rich, a third world nation is actually a good thing. You can stretch your ill
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:12 PM
May 2014

gotten gains a lot further when people are hungry enough to work for 3 bowls of rice a day.

CrispyQ

(36,502 posts)
31. Over on the other board someone posted a graphic that states that O's net worth
Sat May 24, 2014, 02:43 PM
May 2014

went from $1.2 mil in 2007 to $12.2 mil in 2013. I don't know if it's accurate, but we all know the Clinton's benefited greatly from Bill's years as prez.

They are gorging at the trough while real people are suffering. They don't give a shit. They want it all. Every last dime.

Wounded Bear

(58,698 posts)
17. K & R...for exposure...
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:59 AM
May 2014

It's long past time we started shaming rich politicians of all stripes who fostered and nurtured this bullshit.

This is the real moral outrage of our time, not some ideological defense of taxable income for billionaires.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. I have been involved with welfare assistance programs since 1966 when I was a divorced single
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:12 AM
May 2014

mother with three children one being very sick. It did not change much at all and I did a lot of lobbying. One of the organizations I used in lobbying was Bread for the World.

One of the programs I was trying to change was the food stamp program when it still had "fake" money for you to spend which made it too easy to sell if you wanted cash. I also talked about some other problems. I wrote to them asking for help in getting this changed. And then I learned something. They wrote a personal letter back saying that they understood what was happening in the things I described in my letter. Then they told me why they did not even try to touch the issues. Even back then (mid 70s) IF they had opened the can of worms to fix the problems the enemies of the program (rethugs) would have destroyed it completely. And not too many years later along comes newtie and just about did destroy one of the safety net programs.

What I learned is that sometimes when you are trying to fix the program you have too many enemies and will lose the whole thing. It is exactly what they are trying to do with ACA in their 50 repeal votes. We would be crazy to open the door for them to do more damage by putting up a bill that allows them to do that through amendments etc..

Yes, Democrats often fail to protect or correct vital programs but better that than to put them on the floor to be destroyed by the people we know are out to repeal all of them and at the moment those enemies are the majority in the House. In fact while we had a majority at the beginning of President Obama's first term it was very small and we have seen exactly how deadly the enemy can be with their parliamentary tricks.

We cannot risk losing more of the safety net without the votes to protect it by deliberately placing it into a vulnerable position ourselves.

I am praying that we get a majority in both houses these last two years of President Obama's last term and then if the Democrats to not act then we need to throw the bums out. We need to get the vote out and take control for at least the next 2 years. IMO we need to get the majority in both the House and Senate while we have a Democrat in the WH because we need to stop several things from happening: end the obstruction of voters, keep the US Supreme Court for getting any more conservative and protect what is left of the safety net.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
37. We are never going to get those majorities unless the Democrats truly turn populist and
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:51 PM
May 2014

offer a truly alternative viewpoint.

The average person, Democrat or Republican, (I believe) are closer in many of their views than they have been in 20 years. A good portion of confused/moderate independents and even some Republicans could be convinced to give liberal populism a chance. I am convinced of that.

Leadership seems to be so out of touch with the average American that they can't seem to grasp what is right in front of their faces....

I mean there was a reason all the steam is letting out of things like "Operation Spring".

But as long as the Democrats appear to be "Republican Light" or "Oligarchs with a heart" they are not going to be able to engage this dynamic. They are going to have to abandon their current trajectory and move back to what made the Democratic party great.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
40. I agree that the Democrats need to stop moving to the center. Back when I was talking about they
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:39 PM
May 2014

at least stood for what conservatives wanted even if they sometimes backed off the fight for the reasons I gave above.

Arthur_Frain

(1,855 posts)
39. Excellent post
Sat May 24, 2014, 04:09 PM
May 2014

Unfortunately that's the way it too often works. I've lived in a state that wanted to have a constitutional convention to address some of its constitutions shortcomings several times. In the end nothing was done because there are special interest groups who would take the opportunity to hijack the convention, and you'd end up with a nightmare, you all know which groups I'm referring to I'm sure.

I realize there is massive fraud in the welfare system the way it is now, but I guess I'd rather have my tax dollars still go to these programs, and maybe find a way to make them more effective. The alternative plan the republicans are down with is using my money to bomb some third world country back into the Stone Age. I know I'm not ok with that.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
25. A few months ago
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:02 PM
May 2014
Short history: The old welfare system—Aid to Families with Dependent Children, or AFDC, which existed from 1935-1996—needed to be reformed. It did not work hard enough at helping people get jobs and become self-sufficient. There were 14.3 million people receiving it when President Clinton was elected and that’s too many.

In 1996, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) was enacted. Just then, and quite unforeseen, the economy heated up and jobs became plentiful. The welfare rolls plummeted and the number of never-employed single mothers obtaining jobs increased substantially. But even then, because states had no legal obligation to grant benefits, about 2 out of 5 people who left welfare did not obtain jobs, and large numbers were turned away at the front door.

Beginning in 2001, the impressive numbers of single mothers at work began to go down, and now is nearly back to where it was before the 1996 law was passed. But that didn’t mean that the TANF rolls went back up, because states did not extend benefits to those who were losing their jobs. By the time the recession started, the TANF rolls were at 3.9 million.

...I posted this:

From 1994 to 1996, SNAP funding was flat. From 1996 through 2001, Welfare reform resulted in a 30 percent drop in funding.

In 2009, the stimulus increased funding and restored the program to a level equivalent to the pre-1992 trend.

Granted that participation went from 30 million to 46 million from 2008 to now. The stimulus increased the allocation and the benefits.



http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/snapsummary.htm

If the increases had remained at even the level from 1992 to 1993 (on edit: the old system), 3.43 percent, the program would be at about $50 million in 2013.

From 2001 to 2013, participation increased times 2.75. Funding for the program increase about times 4.4 during the same period, driven by the stimulus increase.

From 2008 to 2009, participation increased 18.6 percent and funding increased 42.5 percent.

From 2008 to 2013, participation increased 68.7 percent and funding increased 111 percent.

I'd say the stimulus increased funding to an adequate level. It should have remained at that level and indexed to inflation.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
26. And Clinton signed "welfare reform" as a sop to the right...
Sat May 24, 2014, 01:09 PM
May 2014

some Democratic "help" in getting that net well-frayed...

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
36. Oh Crap. More of this shit.
Sat May 24, 2014, 03:50 PM
May 2014

" let me be clear that the main way to end poverty is jobs that result in a livable income, and the education necessary to get and keep those jobs."

Goddammit it Get real. Stop living in your leftist fantasy world.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
41. Yes, same old poop, different day...
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:18 PM
May 2014

What brings about good wages more than good unions. What has happened in the last 5 or so years, it seems like nothing from the Democratic party. Even the Post Office is still in limbo and what happened to anything for some kind of clear and effective action from the White House and the Dept of labor.

But it seems to me that folks who run as Demo's would like the support of labor, it just seems they don't want to upset the big bad RePUGs.

It seems though that unions won't be around forever, if both parties get their way.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
44. K&R for excellent political strategy. Anytime a policy hurts kids, it is bad policy
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:30 PM
May 2014

and everyone in this country knows it.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
46. Trickle Down, bay-bee! Even Obama "believes" it!!!
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:16 PM
May 2014
Today's Democratic Third Way Party: "We suck a little bit less than the GOP!"

mntleo2

(2,535 posts)
50. Unpaid Work = $450 BILLION a year to replace
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:22 AM
May 2014

We first need to begin to respect and define unpaid work.

According to the AARP it would cost tax payers over $450 BILLION dollars per year if we were to replace the unpaid labor of care giving so women can go out there and make rich men richer saying, "Do you want fries with that?" You can find links and read their wonky report here: http://www.aarp.org/home-family/caregiving/info-10-2012/home-alone-family-caregivers-providing-complex-chronic-care.html

What does this replacement of this unpaid mean, you might ask? Well this is the labor (mostly) women have to do to take care of their children, their elders, and their spouses unpaid and without any consideration for the contributions they make to their communities.

How does this unpaid work contribute to my community or to me, you might ask? Well YOU would be expected to pay that $1/2 Trillion yearly more to build, maintain, and staff facilities in order for someone abandoning their loved ones in order to work for a wage.

(Mostly)women LOSE almost $400,000 over a work lifetime due to this labor according to the AARP and other labor studies.

Social Security calls those years of unpaid care giving "zero years" for the 3 to 5 times in their lifetime (mostly) women make the agonizing decision whether to care for a loved one or work for a wage. This means women who choose to care for this loved one will not be eligible for any pension or Social Security benefits.

If women choose this unpaid labor in order to care for their loved ones, they are most often forced to live off the income of the loved one for the 24/7 unpaid labor that gives them zero benefits such as sick leave, vacation, unemployment benefits, medical benefits or retirement. If they were compensated with a wage according to labor and this AARP study, she would be paid upwards of $137,000 per year for the various tasks she performs such as chauffeuring, cooking, house work, nursing,childcare, elder care, physical therapy, household shopping, and various other tasks that would cost far more of they were sourced out.

Welfare insists that women go back to work when their infant is 3 months old. For a women with a newborn to work for a wage at their McJob, she will make at most $1000 per month while the cost to taxpayers is over $2000 per month for infant daycare alone. Other Over 70% of the McJobs they are forced to work are off hours, evenings, weekends and the like when childcare is nonexistent and if it does exist (my city has ONE off hour daycare at this time) it costs much more. Additional daycare for older potty trained kids can cost from $500-1000 per child per month, also tax paid. For the paid worker, this does not include all the other extra costs they may need such as transportation to work, career clothing, etc. At this time taxpayers subsidize much of this while the McJob yields less than $1000 per month, in essence subsidizing corporations over $4000 more per month so they can pay this McWage.

In contrast if these women were given financial support in order to care for their loved ones, it would cost about $1200 per month, and this includes housing assistance, medical for herself and her kids, and food assistance. If her loved one is an elder or spouse who needs assistance so she can work for a wage, facilities costs could soar to upwards of $8000 per month.

The point is that we seem to "forget" all this unpaid labor that is saving us $Trillions and yet is often not even considered "work". If we were smart, which most of us are not if we do not see this work as worthy, we would realize we would not be burdened with these corporate subsidies, it cost less that 1/5th of what we are paying now to support unpaid labor and give far more stability to families.

My 2 cents (and I have more stats and information)

Cat in Seattle
Board member of P.O.W.E.R http://www.mamapower.org

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