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40% of domestic abuse is suffered by men (Original Post) OnlinePoker May 2014 OP
. Squinch May 2014 #1
So.... AnalystInParadise May 2014 #2
40 percent? bravenak May 2014 #3
This is the most up to date info from the CDC OnlinePoker May 2014 #6
"Only in the area of sexual violence " ... nt Warren Stupidity May 2014 #7
Sexual violence is violence. bravenak May 2014 #10
are you sure mercuryblues May 2014 #19
That may well be bluestateguy May 2014 #4
does the larger number AnalystInParadise May 2014 #5
Wow, talk about making excuses for people... TampaAnimusVortex May 2014 #9
Do you evven know what equality IS? alp227 May 2014 #20
Youll have to be more specific... TampaAnimusVortex May 2014 #23
Equating the amount of male-on-female and female-on-male violence. That's wrong. alp227 May 2014 #24
Women are generally physically weaker than their male counterparts. cigsandcoffee May 2014 #8
And mainstream society expects men to be in the stronger gender. alp227 May 2014 #13
Do you mean 40% are adult men? thucythucy May 2014 #11
he said "Pychological aggression" upthread. elehhhhna May 2014 #12
In other news, young women were targeted for murder last night.... YoungDemCA May 2014 #14
Ever tried to keep up with the number of women murdered by their male partners or ex partners? redqueen May 2014 #15
Very true YoungDemCA May 2014 #16
You even provided the CDC stats that prove how misleading your thread title is. Lameass flamebait. Squinch May 2014 #17
Which completely ignores all sense of proportion. Are there far too many male DV victims? Of course. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #21
105% of internet statistics are just made up. (nt) Nine May 2014 #22
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. 40 percent?
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:05 PM
May 2014

Where are you getting your info?
Do you realize that the video is not about America?

Please provide a link to your stats. Otherwise i will know you made up that 40 percent claim.

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
6. This is the most up to date info from the CDC
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:26 PM
May 2014

Only in the area of sexual violence do the stats in the U.S. veer away from the 60/40 split. For psychological aggression, it's almost even between the genders.

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf#page=47

On edit, go to section 4 page 37

 

AnalystInParadise

(1,832 posts)
5. does the larger number
Sat May 24, 2014, 05:09 PM
May 2014

mean we ignore the smaller number? Or can we just direct 60% of our outrage towards abuse against women and 40% against abuse towards men?

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
9. Wow, talk about making excuses for people...
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:24 PM
May 2014

If you want equality between the genders, this comes with it. Wages and holding people responsible for their actions should be the same regardless of gender. Or were you just really wanting equality in areas that are cherry picked?

alp227

(32,047 posts)
20. Do you evven know what equality IS?
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:46 PM
May 2014

And do you know what "false equivalence" IS?

Guess what? When one statistic is disproportionate from the other, they are. not. equal.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
23. Youll have to be more specific...
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:53 PM
May 2014

Implying I created a false equivalence isn't a logic argument. It's simply throwing word salad on a web page. Please try again with a logical argument that is both testable and falsifiable.

Again, referencing statistics without context isn't an argument. Which statement are you referring to in particular. What is the specific error? Where is your corroborating evidence?

alp227

(32,047 posts)
24. Equating the amount of male-on-female and female-on-male violence. That's wrong.
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:00 PM
May 2014

See bluestateguy's original reply. The thing is, mainstream American culture accepts misogyny FAR more often than misandry.

And YOU are creating a word salad too.

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
8. Women are generally physically weaker than their male counterparts.
Sat May 24, 2014, 06:17 PM
May 2014

That's why people rush in to "save" the woman in the first half of the video, and laugh at the man in the second half. You would get the exact same reaction if you could set up a hidden public video in that park of a cat attacking a small duck vs. a small duck attacking a cat. The first would bring rescuers for the duck - the second would have people grabbing their phones to make a YouTube video.

alp227

(32,047 posts)
13. And mainstream society expects men to be in the stronger gender.
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:22 PM
May 2014

Gender roles have shoehorned men as self-reliant and strong and woman as dependent and needing to be saved (hence the "damsel in distress" trope).

thucythucy

(8,086 posts)
11. Do you mean 40% are adult men?
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:25 PM
May 2014

Or 40% are males, which includes children?

What's the source of this statistic?

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
12. he said "Pychological aggression" upthread.
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:52 PM
May 2014

the physical shit has a way higher differential.

MRA troll patrol.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
14. In other news, young women were targeted for murder last night....
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:27 PM
May 2014

...because they weren't throwing themselves at this "fine gentleman."

Oh I'm sorry, did I say fine gentleman? I meant entitled little creep who drank the MRA Kool-Aid.

Your OP is in poor taste.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
15. Ever tried to keep up with the number of women murdered by their male partners or ex partners?
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:33 PM
May 2014

People only take note of the men who murder women they claim to love when they kill a bunch at once.

Otherwise, it's just background noise. 3 women per day on average, just in the US. Background noise.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
18. Which completely ignores all sense of proportion. Are there far too many male DV victims? Of course.
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:56 PM
May 2014

Violence, period, is an enormous human problem. And it's not purely physical by any means.

But on the other hand, women are far more likely than men to be seriously injured or killed by an intimate partner. Which is partly sexual dimorphism and partly cultural factors.

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