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David Zephyr

(22,785 posts)
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:48 PM May 2014

Best Ticket for 2016? It's Easy & It's a Landslide: Hillary Clinton / Elizabeth Warren

What? Two women? Americans would not be ready for that, would they?

Answer: Yes, Americans are ready.

Presidential candidates always should pick someone who is qualified to be Vice President, but also someone who can take the fight right to the voters articulating the choices in ways Presidential candidates can't. No one in the Democratic Party can fill those shoes like Elizabeth Warren. No one.

Hillary will simply KO anyone who debates her in the Presidential debates.

And Elizabeth in a Vice Presidential debate? She will massacre whoever is on the stage with her. It will be something to behold.

Two women on the ticket? I can hear the groans already from the nervous among us.

But I'm serious. Want to really have a landslide and have people standing in lines across the nation to vote regardless of GOP voter shenanigans?

Hillary, you want a fighter at your side that speaks plainly right to American voters where they live? Pick Senator Warren. There's no one on the landscape that is her equal.

Two women on the ticket? Yeah! Absolutely. Sign me up today.

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Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
1. Elizabeth Warren would SO outshine Hillary Clinton
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:52 PM
May 2014

and she knows it. Ain't gonna happen. Hillary will pick a corporate toady, just like herself, as her running mate. Besides, I still think Elizabeth Warren will run against Hillary in the Primaries. Finally, Elizabeth Warren is too smart to be someone's running mate. She's an Alpha Female with smarts, charisma and her middle name isn't "Goldman Sachs."

FailureToCommunicate

(14,020 posts)
9. Sorry, but I've seen Hillary as a rock star compared to Ms Warren, at least in
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:25 PM
May 2014

the 'charisma' department. And then there is the nagging problem of Waren's only relatively recently coming over to the Progressive
side of the isle...

Don't get me wrong, either would be a strong candidate, and I'd vote for either or both.



Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
10. Hillary's support is a mile wide
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:35 PM
May 2014

and an inch deep. Her ONLY support are the Establishment Corporate Democrats, the 1% and the Blind Partisans. That's it Warren will bring in the MILLIONS of Democrats who have become disgusted with the Third Way Democrats and want to return to what the Democratic Party stood for all in the 20th Century. She'll bring in moderate Republicans and she'll bring in the independents. She has broad appeal. Iow, Hillary represents the 1%, Warren represents We The People. Get closer to 2016 and look at the Favorable and Unfavorable in both candidates. It will tell you the entire story.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,020 posts)
12. Warren is walking the walk now, and I worked damn hard here to get her elected Senator. But we
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:50 PM
May 2014

are talking about personality and possible successful presidential campaigns.

She has a crazy love following here in Mass. I'm just don't agree that she's ready for folks in Des Moines.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
2. It's only 2014, and
Sat May 24, 2014, 07:55 PM
May 2014

I am so fucking sick of people pushing HRC at me that I already know she won't get my support, regardless of the circumstances. And this 2 years before the primaries.

I'd be thrilled to support a woman. The right woman. Not a neo-liberal. Surely, two years before the storm, there are many, many more possibilities to entertain.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
4. That's not how it works
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:00 PM
May 2014

No way two women will be on the ticket, least of all two women from the Northeast. I think a Hispanic male VP pic would make sense if Clinton tops the ticket, particularly if the GOP is running someone like Rubio or Cruz. However, the election is two years away and no one has yet declared, so we don't need to worry about it now.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
7. One has to be Latino or Latina. Fastest growing Democratic demographic.
Sat May 24, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014

Turnout key to Dem victory. Not a matter of "if" but "who." Same for women. Also a key Dem constituent.

Not sure if folks know this but way but when Brother Malcolm said that presidential elections in this country were decided by such a narrow margin that the Dems were fools for not running a Black man. Said that the turn out by the Dem base would be so overwhelming that it would push the Dems to victory regardless of anything else.

2012 we had Citizens United--and look who won anyway? Brother Malcolm was one smart man. All that money and the GOP could not buy the WH.

The Dems absolutely must motivate their base to vote. No more candidates that the base can sort of tolerate. If the base does not like Hillary in 2016, then we don't go with Hillary. So, she needs to get out there and prove that she has what it takes to get the women enthused. And if she can drag in massive numbers of women---and get some Republican women to cross over--then she is the one.

I think Julian Castro can pull Latino voters to the polls for Dems. Hell, I think if he was at the top of the ticket, he would win. I would vote for him. Everyone wants a leader they can trust, especially in these times when were are being divided by the MSM.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
14. Absolutely! Keeping the White House in Dems hands until 2032, minimum.
Sun May 25, 2014, 12:15 AM
May 2014

Castro would be the absolute best pick imaginable. I think that's why he was given the HUD position, so he'd have executive experience before being picked for VP. Not that they know that that is what Clinton is going to do but there are liberals in Obama's circles and in Washington. They know what they want to see.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
8. These fantasies are going to get old by this time next year. ..
Sat May 24, 2014, 09:24 PM
May 2014

Oh, and there will be no "landslide" if all of the candidates are entrenched corporatist shills...

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. Nah, gotta be Clinton / Castro.
Sun May 25, 2014, 12:13 AM
May 2014

Warren's influence won't be as big as Castro's in the Latin American community. And Clinton needs both the Latin American community and liberal (non-democrats) if she wants to win. Liberals will fawn all over Castro and he was the 2012 keynote speaker.

It's really House of Cards level stuff here because Castro was picked for HUD so he would have executive experience. No time to run for governor anywhere and then you don't want to quit a governorship shortly after getting it (see Palin).

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