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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:50 PM Mar 2012

Zimmerman obviously has this aura surrounding him, preventing an arrest right now

Last edited Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:02 PM - Edit history (1)

The aura is called "Politics".

Racial politics, gun ownership politics, crime politics and class politics. An aura that any young black male intrinsically lacks on practically any street in America.

Those who are invested in maintaining the status quo for the privileged class have decided that it's in their best interest to defend Zimmerman, even if they have to smear Trayvon Martin in the process.

For the Right Wing, Zimmerman is a symbol that they can all rally around. He's the living embodiment of their wildest wet dreams, he actually has blood on his hands.

The blood of someone that they can twist into whom they think deserved to die as an example to all the other uppity negroes.

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Zimmerman obviously has this aura surrounding him, preventing an arrest right now (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2012 OP
Not just an aura. A father who seems to have some kind of pull. mainer Mar 2012 #1
I only refer to Z as a "murderer."...n/t monmouth Mar 2012 #3
Disagree... brooklynite Mar 2012 #2
The extent to which the gun issues were involved at the start wasn't a protection MrScorpio Mar 2012 #7
Lead investigator on the scene HockeyMom Mar 2012 #12
agents or... SkyNeT13 Mar 2012 #27
I agree. HooptieWagon Mar 2012 #14
Aura or just hunkered down? HereSince1628 Mar 2012 #4
Definitely. EFerrari Mar 2012 #5
That aura is daddy Politicalboi Mar 2012 #6
I don't think anyone knows that for certain. randome Mar 2012 #11
When Zimmerman was taken to police headquarters in asjr Mar 2012 #8
Up to a point, the police can downgrade an arrest to a detention EFerrari Mar 2012 #9
Those "good ol' boys" attitude asjr Mar 2012 #13
Seems to work just fine in Sanford. n/t EFerrari Mar 2012 #15
Usually the cops work with us to put away a killer. Life Long Dem Mar 2012 #10
The "unthought known" of this situation is, that may not be true EFerrari Mar 2012 #17
Under the SYG law there is a time limit on prosecution. They may be trying to run out the clock. alfredo Mar 2012 #16
They won't be prosecuting him under SYG. obxhead Mar 2012 #22
I hope he will get his day in court. alfredo Mar 2012 #30
Who is Robert Zimmerman??? mainer Mar 2012 #18
It has to do with the courage Turbineguy Mar 2012 #19
I think an arrest will come but they want to to look like they really checked things over and were Quixote1818 Mar 2012 #20
They're waiting for the grand jury to convene and take it off their hands on April 15. xtraxritical Mar 2012 #25
We MUST tie in the GOP with Zimmerman's name EVERY TIME, EVERY ARTICLE BanTheGOP Mar 2012 #21
I've long advocated playing dirty pool with the GOP since they play it with us. Chan790 Mar 2012 #24
But I've read that Zimmerman registered as a Democrat. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #28
I want an arrest and I want it now! Eddie Haskell Mar 2012 #23
what I don't understand is why anyone would get on board with this guy ThomThom Mar 2012 #26
I think the police have given Zimmerman a rope long enough so he can hang himself with various applegrove Mar 2012 #29
My mom isn't 'into politics' but today she said, "Don't worry. This murderer will end up in prison" Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #31

mainer

(12,022 posts)
1. Not just an aura. A father who seems to have some kind of pull.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:57 PM
Mar 2012

Whether it's money, old boy friendships, or something darker (CIA? Mob ties?), this shooter has been protected from all angles.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
2. Disagree...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

Politics is certainly involved, but at this point it isn't a Right Wing pro-gun conspiracy that's protecting him; it's the fact that so many agencies screwed up on this, they're going to make sure every t is crossed and i is dotted before making a (likely) decision on an arrest.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
7. The extent to which the gun issues were involved at the start wasn't a protection
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

You're right. The obvious incompetence of the Sanford PD was the worst actor, and now they're playing CYA with a child killer as their pawn.

But now it's much bigger than the cops and the DA who let him slide.

As his lack of an arrest is allowed to drag on, the wingers will not let any opportunities go to waste.

Any port in a storm.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
12. Lead investigator on the scene
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:35 PM
Mar 2012

was overruled in charging Zimmerman. Why? By Whom? Something stinks in Sanford.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. I agree.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:38 PM
Mar 2012

The original investigation was slipshod, either by intent or incompetence. I believe they are trying to get it right this time. Lets give them a little time to be thorough... If they fuck it up again thats the time to give them bloody hell.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Aura or just hunkered down?
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:07 PM
Mar 2012

My guess is the Sanford PD is being investigated and won't be making any arrest in this case.

As high profile as it has become, investigators from the State and Federal gov't are probably going to sift through things slowly and carefully before acting.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. I don't think anyone knows that for certain.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:34 PM
Mar 2012

Z's daddy was a magistrate -not a judge- in Virginia -not Florida.

Unless someone has some inside knowledge of his relationship to Sanford, I don't think we can make any assumptions.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
8. When Zimmerman was taken to police headquarters in
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:15 PM
Mar 2012

handcuffs I assumed he was under arrest then. If the PD considered him under arrest what happened that changed that? Was it the police chief, DA or something else? If this is where the "majority" overturned the "minority"? It stinks to high heaven!

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
9. Up to a point, the police can downgrade an arrest to a detention
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:28 PM
Mar 2012

and I think that changes their liability.

The night of GZ's "detention", the Sanford police chief and the state's attorney's office seem to have both stepped in and did that against the recommendation of the lead investigator.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
16. Under the SYG law there is a time limit on prosecution. They may be trying to run out the clock.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:49 PM
Mar 2012

I think the limit is six months.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
22. They won't be prosecuting him under SYG.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:00 PM
Mar 2012

Zimmermann's defense will use that law as a defense, but the prosecution will be charging him with murder or at least manslaughter. For that there is no statute of limitations.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
18. Who is Robert Zimmerman???
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:01 PM
Mar 2012

From news reports, we know that he is:

-- A Vietnam Vet.
-- A Virginia magistrate from 2000 - 2006
-- Has a wife of Pervuian descent.

What else do we know about him? What was his education? What was his job between the Vietnam war and 2000? Anyone in Virginia know?

Quixote1818

(28,936 posts)
20. I think an arrest will come but they want to to look like they really checked things over and were
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:23 PM
Mar 2012

not influenced by public pressure. It will hold more weight if a week or two go by before an arrest is made rather than to just do it right away since the public is outraged.

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
21. We MUST tie in the GOP with Zimmerman's name EVERY TIME, EVERY ARTICLE
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 04:42 PM
Mar 2012

Well, not really street justice.

What we SHOULD be doing is tying Zimmerman's name with EVERY republican running for office, EVERYWHERE.

Romney should never be mentioned in ANY context without Zimmerman's name involved.

Rush Limbaugh's name should never be mentioned in ANY context without Zimmerman's name involved.

Sarah Palin's name should never be mentioned in ANY context without Zimmerman's name involved.

George Bush's, Dick Cheney's, and Ronald Reagan's name should never be mentioned in ANY context without Zimmerman's name involved.

Finally, John Roberts', Clarence Thomas', Anonin Scalia's, and Alito's name should never be mentioned in ANY context without Zimmerman's name involved.

The bottom line: We must ALWAYS tie the republicans with Zimmerman. Every time. Every article. Every way.

We must treat this as a political opportunity and take advantage of it all we can to rub it in the face of the GOP.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
24. I've long advocated playing dirty pool with the GOP since they play it with us.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:08 PM
Mar 2012

I'd be more interested it making sure to tie ALEC to Zimmerman. Let's make ALEC so toxic that our legislators refuse to take their phone calls.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. But I've read that Zimmerman registered as a Democrat.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:47 PM
Mar 2012

The Stand Your Ground law is typical, Republican think-no-further-than-the-tip-of-my-nose, but outside of that, what does this have to do with partisan politics? We don't yet know who decided to bring no charges right after the homicide. What we think we "know" is really just conjecture and speculation.

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
26. what I don't understand is why anyone would get on board with this guy
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:35 PM
Mar 2012

he has a history of violence, can't keep a job, prone to losing his temper, appears to be anti everything

who would want to be associated with this guy

makes no sense
must be something that has yet to come out

applegrove

(118,659 posts)
29. I think the police have given Zimmerman a rope long enough so he can hang himself with various
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:47 PM
Mar 2012

versions of events. That is why the police cheif just temporarily stepped aside. That implies that there is more to this story to come I think.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
31. My mom isn't 'into politics' but today she said, "Don't worry. This murderer will end up in prison"
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:50 AM
Apr 2012

How are they going to keep this asshole free when he's guilty of murder? The ENTIRE world is watching the play-by-play of this.

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