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uppityperson

(115,680 posts)
1. I was 20, refused sex with a stranger I just met, was chided "what's the matter, aren't you liberate
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:42 PM
May 2014

liberated?"

I just laughed and said indeed I was. I do not think he understood the irony of his question

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
2. Obviously, he didn't understand that "liberated" meant the right to say "NO", too.
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:48 PM
May 2014

Other words I've heard used against a woman who says "NO" is "frigid", "stuck-up", "asexual". I'm sure there are others.

Bottom line is that women are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Whatever they do is wrong. Because they're women. That's misogyny. Any woman who notices the misogyny is a "b*tch" or a "man-hater".

*sigh*

Sweet Freedom

(3,995 posts)
9. Lesbian
Mon May 26, 2014, 03:04 PM
May 2014

If you don't want sex with him, well you must be a lesbian, which he could undo if you gave him a chance because you don't know what you're missing!

uppityperson

(115,680 posts)
8. yes, I will admit it. I am one of those sluts who didn't have sex with random creeps.
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:59 PM
May 2014

Silly me, thinking "liberated" meant I got to decide.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
3. How is "Friend Zone" is attacking women?
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:49 PM
May 2014

I thought that was more of a self-deprecating thing guys said about themselves when someone they were interested in gave them the "I like you as a friend" routine. Unrequited love and all that.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
4. "Friend Zone" is used to bemoan the fact that sex isn't in the cards -- not that they've made a
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:51 PM
May 2014

friend. It describes the idea that all men-women interactions should lead to sex.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. One thing I remember really resenting
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:53 PM
May 2014

Was that being looked on as a bad thing. If they weren't willing to be my friend first, I don't see why they thought they even liked me. I think that's my main reason for ending up alone. I was too shy for sex or dating or necking or whatever soon enough. It seemed back at that time, the late 70s and 80s, almost like you had to have sex when you first met.

I would have done better today, where people seem more allowed to be individuals and ask to be friends first (I've seen that in personal ads) - or earlier when society "allowed" you to wait a lot longer even though those rules were too restrictive for most.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
7. It says pretty clearly that a woman's default and proper role is for sex.
Mon May 26, 2014, 01:56 PM
May 2014

And anything else is shameful and embarrassing.

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