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Edward Snowden has heard the American critics who find it suspicious that he ended up in Russia after pulling off perhaps the most extraordinary intelligence leak ever. His message to them: take it up with the State Department.
Snowden told NBC News anchor Brian Williams in an interview excerpt that aired Wednesday morning that he "never intended" to land in Russia and said he's "personally surprised" that he wound up there.
"I had a flight booked to Cuba onwards to Latin America and I was stopped because the United States government decided to revoke my passport and trap me in Moscow Airport," he said. "So when people ask why are you in Russia, I say, 'Please ask the State Department."
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In his own interview with NBC on Wednesday, Secretary of State John Kerry panned Snowden's comments.
"For a supposedly smart guy, thats a pretty dumb answer, frankly," Kerry said. "If Mr. Snowden wants to come back to the United States today, we'll have him on a flight today."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/edward-snowden-ask-the-state-department-why-im-in-russia
Snowden's passport was revoked in Hong Kong, which is why Assange faked the Ecuadorian travel document to allow him to leave HK.
Assange stands by Edward Snowden as Ecuador's Correa reprimands consul
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jun/30/assange-snowden-ecuador-reprimands-consul
Ecuador cools on Edward Snowden asylum as Assange frustration grows
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/28/edward-snowden-ecuador-julian-assange
The story about a Latin American destination is bullshit.
(Reuters) - Retired Cuban president Fidel Castro blasted on Wednesday a report in a Russian newspaper that his country buckled to U.S. pressure and blocked former U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden from traveling through Cuba to exile in Latin America.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/28/us-usa-security-snowden-cuba-idUSBRE97R0JJ20130828
Assange advised Snowden to go to Russia.
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WikiLeaks paid for Snowdens travel from Hong Kong to Moscow, his lodging, and also his legal counsel, Assange said on a call with reporters Monday in response to a question from The Daily Beast.
It is correct we paid for those arrangements, said Assange, who declined to specify Snowdens current whereabouts. No government or other organization assisted."
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/24/wikileaks-foots-the-bill-for-snowden-s-global-escapades.html
Assange, however, disagrees. "While Venezuela and Ecuador could protect him in the short term, over the long term there could be a change in government. In Russia, he's safe, he's well-regarded, and that is not likely to change. That was my advice to Snowden, that he would be physically safest in Russia." Assange also claims that Snowden has proved "you can blow the whistle about national security and not only survive, but thrive."
But how much Snowden is thriving in Russia is unknown. According to his Russian lawyer, Anatoly Kucherena, he has been learning the language and reading Russian literature. (He recently finished Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.) Snowden also reportedly took a job not long ago at a Russian Internet company. Greenwald, who says he talks with Snowden regularly via encrypted chat, maintains that he knows very few details of Snowden's daily life. "For both his and my own protection, there are questions I stay away from," he says. Radack and Drake recently visited Snowden as part of a whistle-blower delegation; they were whisked to a secret meeting and dinner with him at a stately mansion in or near Moscow. That they were taken in a van with darkened windows, at night, meant they had no idea where they were going. Radack nevertheless insists that Snowden is not being controlled by the Russian intelligence service, the FSB, nor has he become a Russian spy. "Russia treats its spies much better than leaving them trapped in the Sheremetyevo transit zone for over a month," Radack recalled Snowden darkly joking to her.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/snowden-and-greenwald-the-men-who-leaked-the-secrets-20131204
Remember, Snowden was entertained at the Russian embassy in Hong Kong.
Mr. Putin had previously said that Mr. Snowden's arrival at Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport on June 23 was a "complete surprise."
But in an interview with Russia's Channel One and the Associated Press, released on Wednesday, he acknowledged that he had some prior knowledge that the fugitive might be headed Russia's way.
"Mr. Snowden first appeared in Hong Kong and met with our diplomatic representatives," Mr. Putin said. "It was reported to me that there was such an employee, an employee of the security services. I asked, 'What does he want?' He fights for human rights, for freedom of information and challenges violations of human rights and violations of the law in the United States. I said, 'So what?' "
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887323623304579054890606102138
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Snowie didn't do himself any favors....either way. IF (and that is a big IF) he is a spy....then NOW what he did is even MORE egregious and the grey area just went away...he would face incredibly harsh punishment if he did what he did while a "spy". He better become a spy for Russia and hope Pootie Poot continues to protect him!
Pholus
(4,062 posts)It makes me rather excited at the prospect that the upcoming list of names is uncomfortable for those who claim that only "terraists" are being surveilled.
In any case, the domestic-spying offspring of J. Edgar Hoover and Dick Cheney are obviously not too happy this morning.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)right to enforce its own laws. Period!
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"He's a fugitive from justice. Plain and simple. "
...only path to return to the U.S. is through the justice system. He's going to have to deal with it.
PuraVidaDreamin
(4,109 posts)More and more thankful each day.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I think he's realizing that fewer and fewer people are believing the stories he's telling.
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)struggle4progress
(118,352 posts)Snowden fled the country because he feared prosecution, and when the indictment was issued, his passport was revoked in an entirely standard process under existing law and regulation
There was nothing unusual or untoward about the revocation, and he could have anticipated it, had he bothered to research the matter before heading to China: being a fugitive, he has no right to a US passport
But no law anywhere says one must have a passport to travel: Cuba certainly could have let him travel to or through Cuba if it wished; or Ecuador (say) could have issued him a diplomatic document promising to accept him, if his destination was Ecuador and if any airline was concerned that he'd be turned away on arrival there, and (in fact) somebody in the Ecuadorian embassy in London did issue him such a document -- but unfortunately forgot to clear the matter with Quito, rather to the official displeasure of Correa, who then declared it invalid
What finally happened had little to do with the US and much to do with Snowden's own miscalculation. He hoped to find refuge in China, and to sweeten the pot for China he babbled to the press there about NSA targets in China just in time to embarrass the US President at the summit with the Chinese President. China was happy to have the headline and just as happy to encourage Snowden to move along elsewhere. Oops!
randome
(34,845 posts)Both men are completely incapable of admitting to themselves that they may have been wrong. And so the self-aggrandizement goes on and on.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]
ProSense
(116,464 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Secretary of State John Kerry said Wednesday that if former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden was a true 'patriot,' like famed Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsburg, he would return to the U.S. and have his day in court.
"If this man is a patriot, he should stay in the United States and make his case. Patriots don't go to Russia, they don't seek asylum in Cuba, they don't seek asylum in Venezuela. They fight their cause here," Kerry told MSNBC host Chuck Todd on "The Daily Rundown."
"There are many a patriot. You can go back to the Pentagon Papers, with Dan Ellsberg and others, who stood and went to the court system of America and made their case," he continued. "Edward Snowden is a coward, he is a traitor and he has betrayed his country. If he wants to come home tomorrow to face the music, he can do so."
In his own interview with NBC News airing Wednesday night, Snowden told anchor Brian Williams that he was "personally surprised" to find himself stuck in Russia without papers after fleeing the country and placed the blame for his current situation on the State Department.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-kerry-edward-snowden-asylum
brooklynite
(94,740 posts)...to come back to the US.