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doxydad

(1,363 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:43 PM May 2014

Sonic And Chili's Announce No-Gun Policies

Chili’s and Sonic became the latest national chains to wade into the gun debate on Friday, announcing in apparently coordinated statements that firearms are no longer welcome in their restaurants.

In separate statements, the companies said that they were asking customers not to openly carry firearms in their eateries, following a similar move by Chipotle earlier this month.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/30/chilis-sonic-gun_n_5419942.html?utm_hp_ref=business

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Sonic And Chili's Announce No-Gun Policies (Original Post) doxydad May 2014 OP
I hope they will get a little bump in business for doing so... hlthe2b May 2014 #1
as is there right Duckhunter935 May 2014 #2
In Sonic's case... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #3
lol Jefferson23 May 2014 #4
I think those guys are hilarious! Skittles May 2014 #7
They are, but they're... TreasonousBastard May 2014 #8
Hey now.. doxydad May 2014 #42
... RKP5637 May 2014 #54
Pretty sad secondvariety May 2014 #5
cowards who are unable to go to a restaurant unarmed Skittles May 2014 #6
i don't understand the need to carry in public fizzgig May 2014 #9
agreed, they need a good ass kicking ! nt steve2470 Jun 2014 #66
As I carry concealed, it has no effect on me. n/t oneshooter May 2014 #10
Let's hope concealed is next. Hoyt May 2014 #12
+1 savalez May 2014 #20
If they don't want concealed carry, then in Texas they only have to post a proper 30.06 sign. n/t oneshooter May 2014 #28
They shouldn't have to waste their time. Hoyt May 2014 #30
What About Me? otohara May 2014 #46
Well aren't you special. n/t cui bono May 2014 #47
Concealed carry in common in Florida. ... spin May 2014 #55
You didn't get the meaning of my use of the word "special" or the post in general. cui bono Jun 2014 #57
If you carry concealed you don't annoy other people in public places ... spin Jun 2014 #70
crazy that food joints have to have polices like this RainDog May 2014 #11
These idiots would be arrested back in the 1800s.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #18
So, what is Chic-fil-a's policy packman May 2014 #13
I'm not going there to find out. nt TexasTowelie May 2014 #19
Bravo! Jerry442 May 2014 #14
I am pro concealed carry, HATE Open carry. It should be banned. n-t Logical May 2014 #15
And why, exactly, is concealed carry better than open carry? SheilaT May 2014 #24
When did I say I carried a gun? You need a nap! nt Logical May 2014 #25
You dodged the point. They first asked why you think concealed is better. cui bono May 2014 #48
Open carry is not a good idea in most instances seveneyes May 2014 #16
These guys act like people should THANK THEM for keeping America "free"..... Spitfire of ATJ May 2014 #17
Dude's whiny quote was perfect. Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #61
Yeah,...because just look at all the times these guys have saved us,....in their fantasies. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #62
"pico de gallo? Meet my pico de GAT!" Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #63
Common sense. Why can't this be a federal thing ecstatic May 2014 #21
A couple years ago I heard on the radio Jenoch May 2014 #35
The complaint might have been ridiculous, but those of us who feel uncomfortable around open ecstatic May 2014 #36
Yes, you are ridiculous.. Jenoch May 2014 #37
If he did, he could make up a lie ecstatic May 2014 #40
I believe some people could view you the same as the 'thruthers' who deny Sanfy Hook. Jenoch May 2014 #41
I don't see the correlation. I'm glad that neither you nor your family /friends have experienced ecstatic May 2014 #45
You should not be blaming all LEO for whatever little situation you find yourself involved with. Jenoch Jun 2014 #71
wow just wow. you can't be serious. SCUBANOW May 2014 #38
How about no public guns. Period. ? n/t cui bono May 2014 #49
I like Sonic's Cream Slushes... awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #22
I love the consistency of their crushed ice (with my Dr. Pepper). pacalo May 2014 #27
I just wish I could eat ice cream again. Diabetic. n/t oneshooter May 2014 #29
Oh, I'm sorry, oneshooter. pacalo May 2014 #31
Sonics Chili Cheese dog with onions awoke_in_2003 May 2014 #33
Yes for the onions but no cheese. pacalo May 2014 #34
Their chili cheesdogs with onions awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #74
Half price shakes after 8pm. Yum! QED Jun 2014 #73
I did not know that... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #75
Yummy! pacalo Jun 2014 #76
Heston Jim Beard May 2014 #23
That's it then. Turbineguy May 2014 #26
Bubba has to get his tater tots somewhere else now mwrguy May 2014 #32
Almost a moot point for Sonic. SCUBANOW May 2014 #39
I don't think that's exclusive to Texas. They're pretty much everywhere in the U.S. pacalo May 2014 #43
you know that is just a movie Duckhunter935 May 2014 #51
OMFG doxydad Jun 2014 #69
Why do they need a gun a Chili's? Shankapotomus May 2014 #44
good for them. i guess this is how we have to do it now. lets go... make it so if you seabeyond May 2014 #50
I'm waiting for a group of the Open Carry guys to head into a bank. TeamPooka May 2014 #52
happens all the time Duckhunter935 May 2014 #53
I carry a concealed weapon in one bank in my town. ... spin May 2014 #56
K! Cha Jun 2014 #58
How naive I was.. I never thought we'd have to be so Happy because some restaurants have Cha Jun 2014 #59
How about a no Hedgehog policy? Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #60
HuffPo's post posits pronouncement poop... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #64
It's basically the same response as Starbucks metalbot Jun 2014 #65
Funny, just businesses following the law... Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #67
Won't see much of a difference here in Florida madville Jun 2014 #68
Apparently hidden guns are OK with them. No specific statement on that. AlinPA Jun 2014 #72
I twist balloons at a Chilis every Friday TlalocW Jun 2014 #77

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. In Sonic's case...
Fri May 30, 2014, 07:48 PM
May 2014

they might be worried about someone looking to shoot those two assholes in their commercials.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
5. Pretty sad
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:06 PM
May 2014

that this even has to be discussed. Gunners have lost their collective mind over this open carry nonsense.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
28. If they don't want concealed carry, then in Texas they only have to post a proper 30.06 sign. n/t
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:37 AM
May 2014
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
46. What About Me?
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:54 PM
May 2014

I don't want anyone with a concealed gun near me.

A sign around my neck perhaps?

spin

(17,493 posts)
55. Concealed carry in common in Florida. ...
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:12 PM
May 2014

Over 1,000,000 resident Floridians have a concealed weapons permit.

It doesn't make you "special" in the least. Most people here do not feel it's a big deal and not not opposed to it.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
57. You didn't get the meaning of my use of the word "special" or the post in general.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:17 AM
Jun 2014

There was no reason for that person to even bring that up. It's like gun owners just can't help rubbing it in people's faces. So annoying and not helping their cause.

spin

(17,493 posts)
70. If you carry concealed you don't annoy other people in public places ...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jun 2014

as they don't realize that you are carrying.

I don't open carry because it is illegal in my state. There is an open carry movement in the state which I don't support. If however, they are successful I would rarely open carry except in those places where I would not irritate or cause fear in those around me.

The person brought up the point that the restaurants do appear to be banning open carry not concealed carry

I don't think that's inappropriate but is part of the discussion on the issue. Nor do I believe his intention was to rub the fact that he carries concealed in people's faces.

I've legally carried concealed for well over 15 years. I don't believe that a single person in the stores or restaurants I have visited was aware of that fact including the staff and the management. The last thing I would ever hope to do is to anger, scare or intimate those around me who pose no danger to me.

I can't for the life of me understand what these groups of individuals who open carry in restaurants are hoping to accomplish. They are merely looking like a bunch of fools, which in my opinion they are.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
11. crazy that food joints have to have polices like this
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:28 PM
May 2014

the 1800s were over long ago.

I wish right wingers would stop pretending it's still their time...

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. These idiots would be arrested back in the 1800s....
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:49 PM
May 2014

Towns back then took pride that you didn't HAVE to carry a gun and many had bans on guns.

The Gunfight at the OK Corral started because the lawmen were trying to collect the guns of some cowboys who were violating the town ordinance. They got a few from some cold dead hands.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. So, what is Chic-fil-a's policy
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:50 PM
May 2014

I know the guy who own it closes on the Lord's Day (Sunday) , but isn't it the restaurant of choice for the Redneck crowd?

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
14. Bravo!
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:50 PM
May 2014

And, as one of the HuffPo's commenters said, we customers should have a standing policy to instantly get the hell out of any place if a guy not wearing a peace officer's uniform carries a gun in.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. And why, exactly, is concealed carry better than open carry?
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:32 PM
May 2014

At least with open carry I know exactly which asshole has a gun. With concealed carry, absolutely any asshole out there might have one.

And spare me any justification whatsoever about why you need to carry a gun in the first place. It's all these goddamn guns that result in all these shootings.

I keep on pointing out that countries with unarmed citizens don't have all these shootings. And all the gun apologists somehow have some excuse as to why we need all these guns. Australia took away guns after a mass shooting. We could do so too.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
16. Open carry is not a good idea in most instances
Fri May 30, 2014, 08:54 PM
May 2014

Certainly not on your average trip to the fast food joint. Maybe if you're a cop, but the average citizen is just asking for trouble if they are displaying a firearm openly.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
17. These guys act like people should THANK THEM for keeping America "free".....
Fri May 30, 2014, 09:41 PM
May 2014

Newsflash: Idiots running around in the woods playing army outside of town doesn't make the public feel safe.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
61. Dude's whiny quote was perfect.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 02:43 AM
Jun 2014
"Our comment is that business owners have a right to make their employees and customers defenseless to the criminal element," Grisham said. "We have always honored private property rights. Gun free zones have only proven that criminals don't read signs."


That's right. Next time there's a shootout at the guacamole station, and you're pleading for a well-armed militia to defend you from thugs who have taken over the tortilla press, YOU'LL BE SORRY, gun-hating weenies!

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
35. A couple years ago I heard on the radio
Sat May 31, 2014, 01:55 AM
May 2014

about someone complaining in a restaurant about another restaurant patron complaining about another restaurant patron who had a gun on their waist.

It was an on-duty cop. The customer who made the complaint was ridiculous.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
36. The complaint might have been ridiculous, but those of us who feel uncomfortable around open
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:07 AM
May 2014

carry can't turn that uneasy feeling off just because it's a cop wearing the gun. That's why I feel extremely uncomfortable around cops--not only do they carry their guns openly, but they somehow have been granted the authority to kill whoever, whenever.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
37. Yes, you are ridiculous..
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:13 AM
May 2014

The number of 'bad cops' are wmaller than the number of anyone else with guns. You should rethink your opinionszabout cops. What, do you think the cop sitti g at the next table is going to pull hid weapon qnd shoot you and your family?

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
40. If he did, he could make up a lie
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:20 AM
May 2014

about why and he'd get away with it. I'm not comfortable with someone having that much power. Unfortunately, the cops in my county aren't known for their integrity.

ecstatic

(32,733 posts)
45. I don't see the correlation. I'm glad that neither you nor your family /friends have experienced
Sat May 31, 2014, 01:56 PM
May 2014

police harassment, but that's not the case for me. It's not about conspiracies or paranoia. Police harassment, brutality, and corruption is well documented. In addition to police brutality and assaults, at least 500 *innocent* Americans are killed by police every year (many in no-knock home raids, etc.). Most of the officers involved in such attacks keep their jobs and are not penalized as long as they come up with a good excuse. You should look into it sometime if you're interested (which based on your comments, I doubt you are).

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
71. You should not be blaming all LEO for whatever little situation you find yourself involved with.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 06:14 PM
Jun 2014
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. I like Sonic's Cream Slushes...
Fri May 30, 2014, 10:21 PM
May 2014

(blending of slushie and ice cream) and Chili's fajitas (the first fajitas I ate when I moved to Texas). Haven't been to either in a while, might be time.

on edit: It boggles my mind that people have to come out and say "don't open carry here".

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
27. I love the consistency of their crushed ice (with my Dr. Pepper).
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:14 AM
May 2014

Call me easy, but I like their hamburgers, chili dogs, tater tots, mozzarella sticks, & their ice cream.

The best part is when I get to press the red button & say, "pacalo to Sonic...pacalo to Sonic...over & out".

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
31. Oh, I'm sorry, oneshooter.
Sat May 31, 2014, 12:49 AM
May 2014

You may have tried these, but just in case you don't know about them, here's a list of the 16 best consumer-tasted and dietitian-approved finalists or winners for ice cream:

http://www.diabeticlivingonline.com/diabetic-recipes/dessert/what-to-eat-diabetes-winning-ice-creams


 

SCUBANOW

(92 posts)
39. Almost a moot point for Sonic.
Sat May 31, 2014, 02:20 AM
May 2014

In Texas a lot of people have loaded rifles and shotguns openly carried in their vehicles and since Sonic is a driveup restaurant Sonic won't know they have a weapon until they give then their food.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
69. OMFG
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jun 2014
you know that is just a movie...
Yeah, just a movie...OF REAL LIFE!!
I'm surrounded by the gun totin' TeapubliKKKan backwater types!

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
44. Why do they need a gun a Chili's?
Sat May 31, 2014, 06:57 AM
May 2014

Do they use it as an eating utensil? Do they stuff the barrel with beans and fire it into their mouths?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
50. good for them. i guess this is how we have to do it now. lets go... make it so if you
Sat May 31, 2014, 06:16 PM
May 2014

want my buck.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
53. happens all the time
Sat May 31, 2014, 07:05 PM
May 2014

I have seen it quite a few times in Arizona. I would assume it also happens more with concealed carry. Never seen an issue.

spin

(17,493 posts)
56. I carry a concealed weapon in one bank in my town. ...
Sat May 31, 2014, 08:22 PM
May 2014

The other bank has a "No Guns" sign." I don't do business with them despite the fact that the bank is right next door to my house.

Of course I have no intentions of robbing a bank. However I'll bet someone that does will pick the one with the "No Guns" sign.

Cha

(297,693 posts)
59. How naive I was.. I never thought we'd have to be so Happy because some restaurants have
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 02:38 AM
Jun 2014

a "No, gun policy"!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
64. HuffPo's post posits pronouncement poop...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:39 AM
Jun 2014

The restaurants are only asking customers to not openly carry, and to abide the laws. Same as it ever was, and lawful.

But HuffPo sez that guns are no longer welcome in their restaurants. The creationist theory of journalism.

metalbot

(1,058 posts)
65. It's basically the same response as Starbucks
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jun 2014

After a well publicized incident at Starbucks, they made a statement that said, effectively "Please don't use our stores as the front line for a second amendment battle. We value your business, but would prefer that you leave your guns at home."

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
67. Funny, just businesses following the law...
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 08:30 AM
Jun 2014


In Texas, the only way to legally bar guns (concealed or open) is to post a "30.06" notification, and not many do.

Strange, how various prohibitions (guns, smoking, gay behavior) fret or used to fret a lot about "public display." I would be happy if the laws on open-carry were opened up enough to allow arms in public for purposes of transfer to cars, gun shops, accessory shops, indoor ranges, etc. Now, there is an atmosphere of revanchement involved with the issue.

madville

(7,412 posts)
68. Won't see much of a difference here in Florida
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jun 2014

Open carry by regular citizens is already illegal under FL state law in most instances.

Of course the businesses could come out and say no guns allowed period, but if it's concealed properly they would never know anyway.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
77. I twist balloons at a Chilis every Friday
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:55 PM
Jun 2014

This is good news for me. I don't want to end up ventilated by gun nuts after one of my balloons pop.

TlalocW

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