volcano. Idiotic sentence.

Walking home from school is just fine. It's generally good for the kids: healthy exercise, time to think, enjoy nature, and so on.

I am aghast.

Come on. A four year old wouldn't be in the kind of situation at school the way this boy was.

They dont say what the kid did.

There is this though from the original article.

I didn't see it in the story ... but, my computer sometimes loads "wonky" ... this was child endangerment if the kid was 6 ... 16 it isn't

correct. Judge and DA really messed this one up.

http://thegardenisland.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/father-punished-for-old-school-discipline/article_74fc9c34-e705-11e3-b1ea-001a4bcf887a.html

Of cpurse given some of the looney tunes who replied who knoews.

This is pretty crazy ... Seriously, the guy was holding the child accountable. Do the judge and DA believe the area is teaming with pedophiles?

I can't even believe charges were filed ... and that it went to court.

On edit: someone upthread posted that the kid was let out along a 'high-way" ... in my mind that changes everything

The highway changes everything

Sorry we must have posted at the same time.

high schoolers were expected to walk two miles (kids farther away were eligible for the bus). But no one was expected to walk on the highway at any age.

i clearly stated (down-thread, I know you responded to this post and probably didn't get that far) that the kid walking along a highway changed everything.

I am 52, back in the day they bussed us less than 1/2 a mile because we would have to cross a new interstate (even though it had cross-walks)

to cross a hazardous street.

also the boy ended up riding with someone else who saw him crying and dropped him off at the school again. so while it turned out ok in this case what if it was someone with bad intentions.

i'm not sure if the boy knew who the person that picked him up was but if it was a stranger he should not have gotten in the car with them.

What kind of neighborhood was the kid expected to walk thru?

Has he walked the distance before and on his own?

If shoulders, are the roads lightly trafficked or busy?
Most importantly, did you or your spouse teach them how to walk to school (which routes to use, how to cross at a corner without a painted crosswalk and lights, etc.)

I walked 1/2 mile to one grade school and a mile to the other BUT it was on sidewalks and my older sibs had to walk with me for the first couple of years.

To an 8 year old used to being picked up or to riding a bus, suddenly being forced to walk home a mile is daunting.

Insanity.

including the road along which the child was expected to walk

Mebbe not every Hawaiian highway would be the ideal place to leave an eight year-old to stroll alone

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If you want to argue the case, give us the full story

but this was a residential neighborhood.

covered with cinders, there is a wide cut grass area beyond the shoulder.

There is no dense wooding or abandoned buildings for perverts to hide in.

Businesses are on either side and side roads lead to housing developments.

Google Earth is a great thing. The whole area looks a lot like parts of Florida, flat and tropical. No alligators or swamps they can hide in, though.

However, the highway in question was not an interstate. It was more like a busy street in any generally residential/business area.

This helicoptering around children has got to stop. It's going to make for fearful and easily controlled adults.

I would love to take a look.

There's only one.

Sheesh.

I'm done spoon feeding.

would it be that hard to link it?

They hide in panel vans.

They ask tired children if they would like a coke and a ride.

They tell them they have a puppy.

The judge called the road a highway. I don't think making kids walk along highways, no matter how many lanes, is a good idea.

In my district, kids whose route required walking on a hazardous road -- and that would include any highway -- were eligible for buses, no matter how close they were to school.

The nanny state at work.

But 8 on a highway is a bad idea and I would have to agree with the judge.

(consider also that it comes from some glen beck site)

it's hard to tell just from one pic and without a wider view. but just based on that i don't think i would do it.

But agreed I still wouldn't do it with my 8 year old.

...it was either walk home or stay at school. It was about a mile and a half. I preferred walking cuz I got to talk to friends along the way. Yes, even in the rain...I had a raincoat.

edit: I was doing it at 8, too!

the kid will be upset and they wont be home and more likely to get involved with others and maybe in more trouble.

and to me it comes off more as being an asshole rather than a way to discipline the child and make them learn something is not ok .

why not get the kid home and have a talk and then do something like no going out, tv, computer etc ?

She never let my brother or I have a key to the house & she locked the door at midnight. If you weren't home by then you would have to find a place to spend the night. Many a night my brother would come around to my window & wake me & I would then let him in. He was really hard to wake up so I didn't dare stay out after curfew. lol I spent a lot of nights at my best friend's house.

That judge needs a reality check, some of those old fashioned punishments that give a kid time to think it over are the best.

The busybody who picked the kid up and then most likely dropped the dime on Demond was out of line, too. The kid was crying because he'd done something wrong and was being punished.

If the kid was a kindergartener, that's one thing.

Also, if the road was busy without appropriate sidewalks, that's a factor, too.

Because it's Fucker Carlson's shitty little website, I'm inclined to reserve judgment and think that the judge maybe might have had a point. I am also motivated to go back to the source document, and AH HA!!! Looky here.

Fucker, as he often does, leaves KEY POINTS that might change people's minds out of his little "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!! INTRUSIVE GUBMINT!!! Waaaaaaah!!!!" narratives.

Apparently, per the original source, there was a HIGHWAY involved:

Didnt realize it was Tuckers site. No wonder he omitted that part.

one not too long ago i remember involved some girl that wanted to sell something in some outdoor market thing . she only needed to get some permits to do it within that area .

if she wanted to do it outside of that area there would have been no problem without permits.

and of course they included something about how she was doing it all to make money for some dental work or some shit like that.

unless we lived more than a mile from elementary school -- unless the route would take us on a "hazardous" road. We had to live more than two miles from high school.

No one was required to walk on a highway, if that's where this boy was.

we let her ride her bike because so many kids do it here & we figured she'd get home faster. It's probably 1/3 a mile at most to the school. At 9 we did let her walk but I got her a simple flip phone with GPS so I could check on where she was. Kind of silly I guess but she really wanted to walk with her friends and not have me tagging along. So I'd wait not-so-patiently at home and check the gps if she was running late.

We are also in a typical neighborhood w/tons of houses and sidewalks. That's definitely a factor. If it truly was a highway without sidewalks etc. then I'd say no.

A lot of parents are becoming the first to get in trouble for "crimes" that are without precedent. Parents are trying to think of effective punishment--other than the spankings of the past--and, thanks to social media, they're ending up a worldwide spectacle. Like the father who destroyed his daughter's laptop, or the mom who made her son wear a sign on the corner. I think a lot more people will start opting out of parenthood until the new rules are clear.

Based on his area of residency and the age of the child, I am almost 100% positive the child was let out on the Kuhio Highway (based primarily on the location of the Kilauea elementary school, which is where his son is must likely attending). Image search the highway or take a look on Google Earth/maps. It is really not an appropriate road to let a child wander.

I'm not a "nanny state" fan but he deserved to be punished.