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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 03:00 PM Jun 2014

"Babylonian Booty"..more on those like Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney...

who walk around totally free and unpunished for their lies. I guess I am angered over the fact Shinseki had to resign because the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq overwhelmed the VA system. Yet those who allowed the plunder of the cradle of civilization get to criticize him.

Newsweek 2003:

Babylonian Booty

Our soldiers dug for souvenirs at the tower that was symbolized the birthplace of the biblical patriarch, Abraham.

When most Americans watched the bombing on television, they were not aware that this area was one of the 7 Wonders of the World.

It had been conquered and re-conquered a dozen or more times, by (among others) the Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Macedonians, Parthians, Arabs, Ottomans and British, and in February 1991, yet another foreign power raised its flag over the ancient city of Ur, near the mouth of the Euphrates: the Americans. Daring the allies to bomb the birthplace of the patriarch Abraham, Iraqis had parked their jets near Ur's 4,000-year-old ziggurat, but the planes were shot up all the same. American soldiers toured the ancient tower, then got out their entrenching tools and began digging for souvenirs. A forlorn Iraqi gatekeeper ran among them, wailing protests in Arabic, until U.S. officers put a stop to the looting. Last week, when NEWSWEEK visited the site, it was virtually deserted, except for a lone guide, the son of the old gatekeeper, keeping a wary eye on the American and British warplanes streaking overhead. "Ninety-nine percent of Americans don't know the country they'll be bombing is Mesopotamia," says Dr. Huda Ammash, a high-ranking Baath Party official. "Our country has served humanity for so long, now it's up to the international community to help protect Iraq."

....In 1991, with Baghdad's iron --control over the country shattered, "nine of 13 regional museums were completely looted," says Richard Zettler, associate curator at the University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology. Iraqi civilians began tearing into unexcavated sites with front-end loaders, carrying away anything of value. The plunder has been turning up ever since in dealers' catalogs and at auctions around the world. Last week on eBay, sellers were offering 4,000-year-old cuneiform-tablet fragments ("Be sure to bid on this fantastic piece of history!&quot and a Sumerian silver necklace from 2500 B.C. "There are Iraqi antiquities everywhere you look," says John Malcolm Russell, an authority on the region at Massachusetts College of Art. "And they didn't all come from someone's basement. There are very few legitimate objects on the antiquities market."


This week I have remembered a blogger who posted about this in 2007 with much frustration. I was able to find his post again, but the pictures are not there anymore. I kept some of them in older posts of mine.

From the blog Cogito:

Raping History

After the first Gulf War, there were widespread reports of looting of museums, so the Pentagon created special units designed to protect cultural sites that happened to be inside a combat zone. Then came the war in Iraq.

As is now well known and documented, the Baghdad Museum, perhaps the single most important repository of material culture from the Cradle of Western Civilization, was sacked and looted. The cultural protection units who might have stopped this were not even deployed. No more than fifty men would have been enough to secure this treasure house, but it was left to the ravages of the mob. Then-Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld shrugged it off with his usual indifference to tragedy, and the world took a few steps closer to viewing the invasion of Iraq as the work of the forces of a militarist, imperial government ruled by a mad cowboy.


I have never heard a more apt description Rumsfeld than "mad cowboy". It would fit his boss well also.

Unfortunately, the recovery of much of the Baghdad Museum collection is just a small ray of light amidst a much larger, growing darkness for those who value our common history. For centuries, the great civilizations of Babylon and Assyria lay buried and forgotten, save for some references in biblical and classical literature. The earlier Sumerian civilization was lost completely to history, and only rediscovered within the last 150 years.

But in spite of tremendous progress during that time, thousands of archaeological sites remained unexcavated. Say what you will about the late President Hussein, he did value his country's heritage even if it was for his own self-serving ends. The point is that these sites were protected and viewed as a source of national pride. Now, a report by Robert Fisk in the British newspaper The Independent reveal that the chaos spawned by the war in Iraq has created conditions where entire cities are being raped by looters and wildcat diggers clear down to bedrock. Illegal antiquities are flooding the black markets. An artifact removed from its context without proper documentation becomes useless for archaeological purposes. The vast, unknown history of the origins of our civilization is being systematically destroyed before it can be read. It is being plundered both by opportunists, and by people who have no other means of support. Some of this may be recovered, but there will always be issues and problems we will never be able to solve because critical contextual information was lost.


He ends with saying that "War is a destroyer of cultures, but in this case the culture is that of the western world, along with a fair share of the east. I do not doubt that fairly or unfairly, future scholars and historians will mention the American invasion of Iraq in the same breath along with the Germans at Louvain, or the Romans or Muslims at Alexandria."

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"Babylonian Booty"..more on those like Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney... (Original Post) madfloridian Jun 2014 OP
I remember how heart-breaking that was, not to mention a war crime. Airc, International law requires sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #1
This is from 2006 about a private who was clueless about Iraq's history. madfloridian Jun 2014 #7
How sad, 'I want to get revenge for 9/11'. So indoctrinated, I wonder if this soldier, like so many sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #9
Thanks for this post MF...So much went down the Rabbit Hole of our KoKo Jun 2014 #2
It was a disgraceful time. madfloridian Jun 2014 #3
K & R n/t malaise Jun 2014 #4
.... madfloridian Jun 2014 #8
Kick for the reminder FloriTexan Jun 2014 #5
Awful, wasn't it? madfloridian Jun 2014 #6

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. I remember how heart-breaking that was, not to mention a war crime. Airc, International law requires
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 03:34 PM
Jun 2014

that all ancient artifacts and museums etc must be protected. We have someone appointed to the role of planning to do this during the planning stages of war. The person who had that job at the time, was devasted, and if I am remembering correctly, quit in tears.

I wonder if they ever recovered all the stolen artifacts. That was the cradle of humanity. I remember seeing a photo of a US soldier kicking an ancient artifact around on the ground.

Anger doesn't describe the feelings I have wrt to the fact that those war criminals are not just walking free, but still interfering in this country's foreign policies.

Thanks for the reminder, another devastating crime against humanity by the war criminals who were protected rather than prosecuted by this administration. Shameful.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
7. This is from 2006 about a private who was clueless about Iraq's history.
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jun 2014

He just wanted to get his nose dirty.

On March 21, the day after American and British troops began their illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq, an "embedded" CNN correspondent interviewed an American soldier. "I wanna get in there and get my nose dirty," Private AJ said. "I wanna take revenge for 9/11."

To be fair to the correspondent, even though he was "embedded" he did sort of weakly suggest that so far there was no real evidence that linked the Iraqi government to the September 11 attacks. Private AJ stuck his teenage tongue out all the way down to the end of his chin. "Yeah, well that stuff's way over my head," he said.


http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/764

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. How sad, 'I want to get revenge for 9/11'. So indoctrinated, I wonder if this soldier, like so many
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 12:18 AM
Jun 2014

others came to realize the lies he had been told? I wonder if he made it home in fact.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. Thanks for this post MF...So much went down the Rabbit Hole of our
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jun 2014

disgraceful allowing of the looting of Iraq's heritage and treasures. It was as if they wanted to destroy every bit of the culture and history of that civilization to humiliate the people. Along with looting pallets of cash and who knows what else. Rape, Torture, Birth defects, Homeless, Dislocated people, Polluted Lands, Death and Destruction. And, it continues.

ALL BASED ON LIES!

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