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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:35 PM Jun 2014

Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's Awful Friends

Tuesday morning, I logged into a chat room full of refugees of the since shuttered PUAHate forum once frequented by University of California-Santa Barbara shooter Elliott Rodger. And I stayed there, silently watching them, for 8 hours. Here's what I learned.

PUAHate, as other outlets have discussed, is an offshoot of the Pick Up Artist community populated by men (and, allegedly, women) who believe Pick Up Artistry to be a sham waste of money not because women are more than "targets" and "prey," but because women are fucking hopeless cunts who can't be convinced to give nice guys a chance. Women, argue PUAHaters, will only go out with good looking alpha males and would never look twice at anyone who isn't a musclebound dreamboat with a six-figure income, and most men will never be those things, and so the world is against them and life is unfair. From an observer's perspective, PUAHate is a group of self-pitying babies who believe they're entitled to women who are much more attractive than they are.

-snip-

Over the course of the day, the number of participants in the tinychat ranged from around 10 in the early morning to dozens in the mid-afternoon. And because of character limits on the chat software, the transcript of the day's chat is confusing. In order to make it less so, in the excerpts you'll see below, I've consolidated sentence fragments written by individuals in succession and added punctuation for clarity. Otherwise, the text is as-written.

http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301?fb_action_ids=517088665080575&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582




At one point in this document, screen shots are shown that have the shooter actively trying to recruit other men to join his "cause."

I'm not posting any of the actual words of these freaks, but it was definitely an eye-opening read!!

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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
1. I lived in Los Angeles in the early 80's
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:44 PM
Jun 2014

I never had trouble getting a date. Many times the women initiated our meeting.
I was not a stud type and I don't know why this was but the one thing I always kept in mind was I wanted to make sure my date was having a good time being with me.
I never gave it a thought that finding a date was difficult. Usually the woman and I met at some event or other and we had a mutual like of what ever we were going there for.
So I don't understand PUAs

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
2. It is projection -- Guys who can't deal with rejection project their own shallow
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:53 PM
Jun 2014

set of criteria onto women and then blame the women. In other words the same guys that for whatever reason can't just be honest with women, also can't be honest with themselves.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
3. They believe women should be throwing themselves at their feet.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jun 2014

While they just have to sit there, not doing one thing to put themselves out there.

Asking for a date is something it seems they are unable to do.

Lots of magical thinking, though. I suppose mental telepathy is involved somehow, broadcasting how awesome they are to every available prospect.

Some of them are truly pathetic losers that just don't understand no one wants to be around a pathetic loser.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
6. There are some really emotionally stunted or immature people who don't understand human
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:57 PM
Jun 2014

interaction, their thinking about what a relationship involves always seems to boil down to "Me! Me! Me!".


Or they set these impossible standards no human female could ever attain, therefore giving them a reason to hate every woman that doesn't meet those standards. Doing so makes having a normal relationship impossible before one could ever begin.

It's a fantasy world they are living in.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Indeed, and it deosn't help when they turn that hate into hero-worship
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jun 2014

I wanted to scrub my brain with a Brillo pad after reading some of those posts.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
5. Anyone, male or female
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jun 2014

that obsesses on why they can't get a date is their own damn problem. Who wants to date a sadsack? Do what you like to do, enjoy life and you bring beauty to a relationship!

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