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global1

(25,242 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:17 AM Jun 2014

Is It Possible That Bergdahl Was Working For The CIA?......

Just asking. After reading all about him and his family and how he was raised. His behavior when deployed with his fellow soldiers. His learning the language with Rosetta Stone (or did he already know the language and this was cover?). His leaving his company and walking off in Afghan. And now this trading of prisoners for his return. The establishment of contact between the U.S. and the Taliban through intermediary Qatar.

Michael Hastings writing an article about this. The death of Michael Hastings.

I don't know - something just doesn't seem right about this whole thing. Maybe I read too many spy novels or watched too many spy movies.

I'm just suspicious. That's all.

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Is It Possible That Bergdahl Was Working For The CIA?...... (Original Post) global1 Jun 2014 OP
The thought crossed my mind also NV Whino Jun 2014 #1
I Read Somewhere That It Was Automatic Because Of His Longevity In The Service?.....nt global1 Jun 2014 #2
Thanks NV Whino Jun 2014 #4
that's DOD Jeneral2885 Jun 2014 #3
Thanks. NV Whino Jun 2014 #5
that thought crossed my mind as well... magical thyme Jun 2014 #6
Nah - a kid home schooled by hippy dippy parents elfin Jun 2014 #7
Damn straight ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #9
What a great cover all that would be. The last person the 'enemy' and of course Right Wingers would sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #12
His parents look to be in their 40's. Way too young for the "hippie" generation. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #17
I know people of that age who are children of hippies csziggy Jun 2014 #18
That would be the case with these parents, but honestly they don't come across as "hippy" to me. MoonRiver Jun 2014 #21
Yes, it's possible he was working for the CIA but... DonViejo Jun 2014 #8
That thought occured to me also. Already said it somewhere else. Add to that the promotion, and the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #10
Michael Hastings Article: "America's Last Prisoner of War" looks like good read KoKo Jun 2014 #13
Thank you I had not seen that. I will definitely read it. I wonder if Hastings was talking about sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #14
Alright, point by point. NuclearDem Jun 2014 #11
Maybe you work for the CIA and said this to throw us all off NightWatcher Jun 2014 #15
Hmmm...no nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #16
He was probably a double knot spy Bonx Jun 2014 #19
just some odd coincidences and questions Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #20

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
1. The thought crossed my mind also
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jun 2014

And he seems to have been promoted to sergeant while in captivity? Is that correct?

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
6. that thought crossed my mind as well...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jun 2014

I haven't read a whole lot about it. Just a couple articles yesterday. But I did immediately begin to wonder...

elfin

(6,262 posts)
7. Nah - a kid home schooled by hippy dippy parents
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:39 AM
Jun 2014

Who appear to be stuck in the 60's. Extraordinarily idealistic and naive about what war really is. Doubt the CIA would be interested at all.

He was on some sort of personal romanticized quest or adventure when he left, not understanding the enormity of the consequences to himself and others.

A screwed up young man who will be lucky to escape "friendly fire" upon his return to Idaho.

However, it was correct to get him back to reinforce that we do not leave soldiers behind. Ever.

I suspect his treatment during recovery will not be entirely pleasant for him.

GeorgeGist

(25,320 posts)
9. Damn straight ...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014

if not for those screwed up hippies we'd have won the Vietnam War.














For the impaired

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. What a great cover all that would be. The last person the 'enemy' and of course Right Wingers would
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

suspect of being a spy.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
17. His parents look to be in their 40's. Way too young for the "hippie" generation.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

I know because I was there.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. I know people of that age who are children of hippies
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:19 PM
Jun 2014

And still live the way their parents did, raising another generation in that tradition.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
21. That would be the case with these parents, but honestly they don't come across as "hippy" to me.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jun 2014

The father grew a beard in reaction to his son's capture and mom looks, well, like a well kept pretty mom.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Yes, it's possible he was working for the CIA but...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:48 AM
Jun 2014

more than likely, if he was military intelligence; he was working with the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) or the ASA (Army Security Agency). Both agencies work with, as opposed to for the CIA.

His promotions were not out of the ordinary however, just SOP.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
10. That thought occured to me also. Already said it somewhere else. Add to that the promotion, and the
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

insistence by Susan Rice that he is a hero.

I doubt we will ever know, but it is a possibility.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
13. Michael Hastings Article: "America's Last Prisoner of War" looks like good read
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

(It's a long article...only had time for first page. I've bookmarked for later read. But, that might have more clues as to what he was about, or not.)

America's Last Prisoner of War
Three years ago, a 23-year-old soldier walked off his base in Afghanistan and into the hands of the Taliban. Now he’s a crucial pawn in negotiations to end the war. Will the Pentagon leave a man behind?

Michael Hastings

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/americas-last-prisoner-of-war-20120607



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
14. Thank you I had not seen that. I will definitely read it. I wonder if Hastings was talking about
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jun 2014

this when he stated he was working on 'something big'? I guess we'll never know as those who do, are probably too afraid to tell us.

Again, thanks for the link.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
11. Alright, point by point.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014
His behavior when deployed with his fellow soldiers.


Doesn't really say anything other than he grew distant from others in his unit. Happens in nearly every unit because of stress, troubles at home, or difficulty fitting in with the rest.

His learning the language with Rosetta Stone (or did he already know the language and this was cover?).


Any number of reasons for that. Could be he had an interest in the language, and took advantage of Rosetta Stone being free for servicemembers. Could be he wanted FLP pay (Foreign Language Proficiency), which is a few hundred dollars more in the paycheck every month. I banked nearly 350 extra a month on that with Arabic and French.

His leaving his company and walking off in Afghan.


Could've been kidnapped, could've been drunk, could've been disillusioned.

And now this trading of prisoners for his return.


Prisoner of war exchange that happens at the end of every major modern war since the Geneva Conventions.

The establishment of contact between the U.S. and the Taliban through intermediary Qatar.


Not the first time Qatar's acted as an intermediary between the coalition and the Taliban. They're a major diplomatic player in the Middle East.

So no, best explanation is that this was a POW exchange; trading someone captured by the Taliban for some others captured by the coalition.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
16. Hmmm...no
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jun 2014

His increase in rank is quite standard and spelled out by DOD regulations.

Soldiers also get extra pay for language proficiency, and as to the rest, you would be more accurate if you though military intel, in a few flavors. And the competition between the CIA and military intel is quite legendary.

I expect this story to quietly die actually

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
20. just some odd coincidences and questions
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jun 2014

1 the White House accidentally revealed the head of CIA operations in Afghanistan,

2 The Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, said that the administration had to move quickly to save Bergdahl’s life but why would Bergdahl be in danger now more than ever during his previous five years of captivity?


3 Pashto one of the most difficult languages for an English-speaker to learn


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