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Eric Shinseki resigned Friday and the Veterans Administration dropped off the news planet. (Original Post) IADEMO2004 Jun 2014 OP
Republicans got their scalp so time to move on.. Bandit Jun 2014 #1
Never mind Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2014 #21
Aww, no VAghazi. Guess it wasn't a Obama impeachment thingy for them. SummerSnow Jun 2014 #2
the sound bites for the next Pres election Jeneral2885 Jun 2014 #11
After their spouting off I would have thought they was going to rush back and pass the bills Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #3
Mission accomplished? deutsey Jun 2014 #4
^this^ a million or so <eom> catrose Jun 2014 #5
Yep. They don't give a damn alsame Jun 2014 #6
It sure looks that way. ananda Jun 2014 #7
Yes. Scratch one cabinet member and nothing for the solution to the problem. IADEMO2004 Jun 2014 #8
repubs and conservadems exacted their pound of flesh.. frylock Jun 2014 #9
That's why he resigned and why he shouldn't have. n/t winter is coming Jun 2014 #10
Good Point! IADEMO2004 Jun 2014 #13
Yup. The Scapegoat is found, so the problem is solved, MineralMan Jun 2014 #12
Who has refused to fund the VA? former9thward Jun 2014 #14
Republicans have steadily blocked funding that MineralMan Jun 2014 #15
You are not citing any numbers whatsoever. former9thward Jun 2014 #16
No, I'm not. I don't have them. MineralMan Jun 2014 #17
There was this alsame Jun 2014 #18
Here's another article that makes my point: MineralMan Jun 2014 #19
Gotta Toss the Baying RobinA Jun 2014 #20

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
1. Republicans got their scalp so time to move on..
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jun 2014
Problem not solved but who cares, certainly not the Republicans....

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
21. Never mind
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jun 2014

That there is currently no replacement for Shinseki sitting in his seat prepared to fix things. His resignation was a mistake though it was inevitable once a bunch of Dems jumped on board.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. After their spouting off I would have thought they was going to rush back and pass the bills
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jun 2014

in which they have been voting down for a few years now. They want wars everywhere but don't want to take care of our troops after they are injured in fighting those wars. We don't have the money to take care of our veterans now but we have money to fight another war, really sensible.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
7. It sure looks that way.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jun 2014

Here's my question.

Why are people, especially vets, just sitting back and taking it?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
9. repubs and conservadems exacted their pound of flesh..
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014

now nothing will happen to improve the situation at the VA until the next witch hunt.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
12. Yup. The Scapegoat is found, so the problem is solved,
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:56 AM
Jun 2014

as far as the news is concerned. In the meantime, the VA Hospital system goes right on denying veterans healthcare and nobody pays any further attention.

That's why I was opposed to forcing Shinseki to resign. It did nothing but take the story out of the news, which pleases the Republicans, since their refusal to fund the VA hospital system properly is the cause of the problem. There's an election coming, you know.

former9thward

(31,987 posts)
14. Who has refused to fund the VA?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jun 2014

VA funding has gone up every year. Obama has never made a complaint that the VA was not funded. In fact Friday he said the opposite:

When it came to funding, we’ve increased funding for VA services in an unprecedented fashion because we understood that it’s not enough just to give lip service to our veterans but not being willing to put our money where our mouth is.

As secretary of the VA, he presided over record investments in our veterans, ...

And under his leadership, we have seen more progress on more fronts at the VA and a bigger investment in the VA than just about any other VA secretary,...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-obamas-remarks-on-resignation-of-va-secretary-eric-shinseki/2014/05/30/92cd831a-e80c-11e3-afc6-a1dd9407abcf_story.html

Not once did Obama blame the budget. But on this board that is the only thing people are blaming. Obama blamed the culture at the VA and he is right.

What do you know that Obama doesn't?

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
15. Republicans have steadily blocked funding that
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

would actually improve the service of the VA to veterans. Yes, the budget has increased, but the actual service to veterans has diminished. Inflation has required budget increases, just to stay static.

The demand on VA medical services has increased far beyond the budget increases. Staffing has not been increased to handle that increase, and other needs have not been funded adequately.

It's not Obama's fault. He can't create budget bills.

former9thward

(31,987 posts)
16. You are not citing any numbers whatsoever.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:31 PM
Jun 2014

Obama has not made any complaints about VA funding since 2009. He certainly has complained when other bills were not passed or funded. If we accept your view he is just a spectator sitting in the Oval Office. The fact is he is saying the exact opposite of what you are saying in your posts.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
17. No, I'm not. I don't have them.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

See this:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/05/21/1300939/-Republicans-outraged-over-treatment-of-veterans-filibustered-better-healthcare-for-vets-in-February

U.S. Senate Republicans blocked legislation on Thursday that would have expanded federal healthcare and education programs for veterans, saying the $24 billion bill would bust the budget.
Even though the legislation cleared a procedural vote on Tuesday by a 99-0 vote, the measure quickly got bogged down in partisan fighting. [...]

Referring to recent budget deals that aim to bring down federal deficits, Republican Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama said: "This bill would spend more than we agreed to spend. The ink is hardly dry and here we have another bill to raise that spending again."


See this, as well:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/republicans-va-funding_b_5395698.html

I don't have time to do more research on this today.

alsame

(7,784 posts)
18. There was this
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

Senate GOP Blocked Legislation Expanding Veterans Health Care

In February, Senate GOP Blocked Bill To Expand Veterans' Health Care, Open 27 New VA Health Facilities. Citing budget concerns, Senate Republicans blocked legislation in February introduced by Veterans Affairs Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders (I-VT) that would have greatly expanded health care and education programs for veterans and allowed the VA to open 27 new health facilities

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/05/23/flashback-mainstream-media-largely-ignored-gops/199451

But I agree that Obama and Dems weren't screaming loudly enough at the time. I only saw Bernie Sanders making this an issue in Feb.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
19. Here's another article that makes my point:
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=12674

As the firestorm about wait times at VA facilities continues, political representatives from both parties insist that waits must be eliminated for veterans seeking care. Now that Republicans have succeeded in forcing the resignation of Secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Eric Shinseki, who resigned last week – the new focus is on seeking partial privatization of the system by allowing veterans to get care from private sector doctors – care that would be paid for by the government program. None of the current calls to action, however, --whether they include criminal prosecutions of those responsible for secret waiting lists, or channeling vets into the private sector – will fix the wait times at the VA that keep vets from getting needed care.

There are two primary reasons for the problem of wait times. One has to do with Congress’ consistent failure to provide adequate funding so that the VA could hire more staff to care for an increasing number of veterans who live longer with complex service and age related health problems. The other – which may be the biggest and hardest to solve problem of them all – has to do with the US healthcare system’s persistent refusal to provide the number of physicians who deliver primary care services in this country.


Emphasis is mine.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
20. Gotta Toss the Baying
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jun 2014

hounds some red meat every now and again.

'Til the next VA scandal, when it will all sound like news again.

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