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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:34 AM Jun 2014

Tenn. cotton gin boss caught on tape: We ‘hang’ blacks for drinking ‘white people only’ water

By David Edwards
Tuesday, June 3, 2014 10:10 EDT

A cotton gin in Memphis, Tennessee is facing a federal discrimination complaint after one of its supervisors was caught on a cell phone recording making racist remarks to black employees.

African-American workers at the Atkinson Cotton Warehouse this week described to WREG treatment that evoked cotton’s historic connections to racism and slavery.

According to Antonio Harris and Marrio Mangrum, their boss at the cotton gin longed for the days of Jim Crow, when white men could “hang” black men for drinking from the wrong water fountain.

“He would be like, ‘You need to think like a white man,’” Mangrum recalled.

“He pulled his pants down in front of us and told us to kiss his white tail,” Harris explained.

After enduring months of racist comments, Harris decided to use his cell phone to record an attempt to drink from a water fountain in the warehouse.

“I need to put a sign here that says ‘white people only,’” the supervisor says in the recording.

When Harris tries to use the microwave, the boss tells him he is not allowed to use it because “you are not white.”

“As a white man, we don’t even let Larry use it,” the boss notes in reference to a black employee who had worked at the cotton gin for over 10 years.

The supervisor goes on to lament that that blacks and whites are no longer kept separate in the United States through segregation.

“Back then, nobody thought anything about it,” he opines. “Now everybody is made to where to think it’s bad.”

“Put your sign on the wall then, because I am feeling to drink it,” Harris asks. “What would they do when they catch me drinking your water?”

“That’s when we hang you,” the supervisor warns.

Harris said that he thought about the racist treatment “every day of my life.”

The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) was working to mediate a settlement with the Atkinson Cotton Warehouse after Harris and Mangrum filed a discrimination complaint.

An employee of the cotton gin told WREG that the supervisor had been on vacation in recent days, but he had not been fired.

Watch the video below from WREG, broadcast June 2, 2014.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/03/tenn-cotton-gin-boss-caught-on-tape-we-hang-blacks-for-drinking-white-people-only-water/

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Tenn. cotton gin boss caught on tape: We ‘hang’ blacks for drinking ‘white people only’ water (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
"mediate a settlement" ????????? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2014 #1
Suing remains an option, however, mediation of this type might lead to a quicker and more msanthrope Jun 2014 #2
+1 SunSeeker Jun 2014 #4
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #14
Threats of lynching? Jim Crow rules are not enough? Generic Other Jun 2014 #16
I say this an attorney--you may win in a courtroom, but what you win may not encompass all you need. msanthrope Jun 2014 #24
What a hateful work environment Generic Other Jun 2014 #27
The U.S. is going backwards. Racism is more open and it's all around us, and teabaggers have been AlinPA Jun 2014 #28
Yes. The supervisor's conduct is clearly wrong-doing ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #29
The mediation should be one penny away from bankrupting the company. joshcryer Jun 2014 #42
Sure....if that's what the employees want. But maybe they want the problem fixed, and msanthrope Jun 2014 #43
I concede only a fraction of a fracton of EEOC claims make it to trial. joshcryer Jun 2014 #44
WHAT THE F**K? 951-Riverside Jun 2014 #3
Why are you second guessing the employees? nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #5
The business is the Atkinson Cotton Warehouse Richardo Jun 2014 #7
But but but....there is no more overt racism in the U S. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #6
but chief jackass roberts said racism in america is over leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #8
Of course Roberts said that. Not once in his life did anyone show racism towards him. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #12
Worst SCOTUS in the history of this country. lark Jun 2014 #20
Justice Roberts will be known as a judicial embarrassment by history books and the next generations tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #26
Shoot, I'd give equal billing to the others. lark Jun 2014 #30
true tomm2thumbs Jun 2014 #37
Good point uponit7771 Jun 2014 #35
SAD Mr Dixon Jun 2014 #9
Vacation and not fired PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #10
They cannot sue until the EEOC finishes it's investigation and issues a "Right to sue" letter. Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #11
It's entirely possible that's already happened, and both sides decided on the EEOC ARD. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #23
True ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #32
They can ask the local HRC or EEOC for a RTS, they can also sue under federal 1869 law without a RTS uponit7771 Jun 2014 #36
Put him in a room with... Omaha Steve Jun 2014 #13
the idea being that they would beat him up or something Enrique Jun 2014 #15
As someone that lived in the 60's... Omaha Steve Jun 2014 #17
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #33
This one's a slam dunk Bonx Jun 2014 #18
"White people only" water? KansDem Jun 2014 #19
Hell yeah! This is just as toxic. freshwest Jun 2014 #38
I seriously wonder what decade we live in sometimes. Initech Jun 2014 #21
Lets make that "what century we live in". AlinPA Jun 2014 #25
smgdh n/t RainDog Jun 2014 #22
The technology that lets is all have a camera in our pocket for little cost Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #31
This is Mitch McConnell's base. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #34
it's so sad barbtries Jun 2014 #39
Poor Larry. dawg Jun 2014 #40
Bottom line for me is.. I'm so grateful that Antonio Harris and Marrio Mangrum Cha Jun 2014 #41
Such Dorian Gray Jun 2014 #45
Shows you don't have to use 'the word' to be racist. nt valerief Jun 2014 #46
The supervisor's smallcat88 Jun 2014 #47
Soon That Supervisor...... cynzke Jun 2014 #48
Have they fired that supervisor yet? TBF Jun 2014 #49

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
1. "mediate a settlement" ?????????
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014

Call the Southern Poverty Law Center and sue their assess off.
You KNOW they have to be discriminating in pay, also.
Not to mention the mental and emotional pain of having to go to work every day with those racisists.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
2. Suing remains an option, however, mediation of this type might lead to a quicker and more
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

equitable solution for all workers there. I say this as an attorney--litigation is brutal.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. +1 ...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:14 PM
Jun 2014

Even with these recorded comments, the pendulum has swung so far to the right that the plaintiffs would have to show tangible harm, i.e., an adverse employment action, (which is being defined in economic terms).

You're right litigation is brutal.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
16. Threats of lynching? Jim Crow rules are not enough?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jun 2014

My god! I feel like I passed through the 21st century right back to the 19th century. I don't see how this kind of behavior isn't considered cut and dry evidence of wrongdoing. he should be forced to pay a HUGE settlement for causing emotional pain and suffering as well as denying someone their civil rights both as an employee and as a person of color.

You really think you couldn't win a case like this? That's crazy! If anyone could, I would think you could.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. I say this an attorney--you may win in a courtroom, but what you win may not encompass all you need.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jun 2014

Part of being a good attorney is knowing when you can get more out of the mediation.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
27. What a hateful work environment
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

It seems so shocking in this day and age. I hope the mediation includes a monetary award.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
28. The U.S. is going backwards. Racism is more open and it's all around us, and teabaggers have been
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:07 PM
Jun 2014

emboldened by the GOP.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. Yes. The supervisor's conduct is clearly wrong-doing ...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:09 PM
Jun 2014

but the question goes to the liability of the employer and the affirmative defenses that are available.

In Ellerth and Faragher, the Supreme
Court, in setting forth the new employer liability rubric, attempted to
give definitive meaning to the term, announcing that a tangible
employment action is a “significant change in employment status,
such as hiring, firing, failing to promote, reassignment with
significantly different responsibilities, or a decision causing a
significant change in benefits.”41.

http://www.wcl.american.edu/journal/genderlaw/14/bradshaw2.pdf


Tragically, these two employees would have had a stronger (more winnable) case, if they had quit the job, as there would have been a clear adverse employment action ... But no attorney of good conscience would advise an employee to quit a job, on the hope of prevailing in court.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
44. I concede only a fraction of a fracton of EEOC claims make it to trial.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:57 AM
Jun 2014

So mediation is probably the best approach. But I'd like to see some serious repercussions from this crap. At minimum the racist manager felt they could get away with their BS and it sounds like they had a higher up position. So it could well go deep into the company.

Just ridiculous all around. That this shit still exists, I guess shouldn't surprise me, but it's been a fucking long time since the civil rights act was passed. Just disappointing I guess.

EEOC stats: http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/statistics/enforcement/litigation.cfm

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
3. WHAT THE F**K?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jun 2014
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) was working to mediate a settlement with the Atkinson Cotton Warehouse after Harris and Mangrum filed a discrimination complaint.


An employee of the cotton gin told WREG that the supervisor had been on vacation in recent days, but he had not been fired.


Gee! All of this seems very reasonable.

...

And the media won't even name the business or the supervisor.

Richardo

(38,391 posts)
7. The business is the Atkinson Cotton Warehouse
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jun 2014

But yeah, why protect the racist's identity? Presumably he's over 18 years old.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
12. Of course Roberts said that. Not once in his life did anyone show racism towards him.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

History will not be kind to this court.

lark

(23,097 posts)
20. Worst SCOTUS in the history of this country.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jun 2014

The most politically motivated court ever, their actions in stating that corporations are persons and that there is a personal RIGHT to all Americans to own guns are just ludicrous and in a sane world will be overturned for judicial activism and ignoring precedent, the actual language of the law as well as common sense.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
26. Justice Roberts will be known as a judicial embarrassment by history books and the next generations
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

he's already achieved partial status today... and continues to work it

lark

(23,097 posts)
30. Shoot, I'd give equal billing to the others.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jun 2014

Scalia, Allito, Thomas are 100% paid supporters of the 1% and exist only to squelch the 99%. Kennedy is only a fraction better and that fraction is social issues. On economic issues, he's solidy in the crazy right wingers category along with the other 4.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
37. true
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jun 2014

mainly referring to how the courts are referred to in history - the Robert's Court, etc... but definitely it takes a village

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
10. Vacation and not fired
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

so the racist pos is being protected by other racist pos.

Sadly, racism is worse than ever because it is not overt and we have such as the turd Roberts saying no discrimination exists. Well it does and the small minded pricks that think they are superior because of their skin color are feeling emboldened by such as the tea party and Fox.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
11. They cannot sue until the EEOC finishes it's investigation and issues a "Right to sue" letter.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

I wish that they had made the allegations of what he said and then let the supervisor lie and say he did not say that, then roll that beautiful bean footage!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
36. They can ask the local HRC or EEOC for a RTS, they can also sue under federal 1869 law without a RTS
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jun 2014

... the company wont know what hit them under Grant law

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
13. Put him in a room with...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jun 2014

Some militant black panthers. End of problem!!!!

See how fast I get caught by the caver's on this. The jury would be messing with fire.

OS

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
15. the idea being that they would beat him up or something
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:16 PM
Jun 2014

but is that really true? Do/did Black Panthers beat up racist people?

Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
17. As someone that lived in the 60's...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:23 PM
Jun 2014

Yes. And with good reason. Ask this white guy what I would do to Mark David Chapman.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. LOL ...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:18 PM
Jun 2014

In real life or in the romanticized version of history.

Most Chapters of the Panthers would not/did not beat up racist people ... except in self-defense, or defense of another.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
19. "White people only" water?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:37 PM
Jun 2014

Is that the kind of water that was provided by Freedom Industries to 300,000 West Virginians earlier this year?

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
31. The technology that lets is all have a camera in our pocket for little cost
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jun 2014

Is doing, and going to do more for the fight for justice than anything else has.

Exposing the truth and preserving it.

Be it bad cops, corrupt politicians, or thug racist employers. The camera only records reality.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
39. it's so sad
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:01 PM
Jun 2014

that we cannot move beyond racism. prediction: he won't have his job for long. i hope the plaintiffs make lots and lots of money.

Cha

(297,184 posts)
41. Bottom line for me is.. I'm so grateful that Antonio Harris and Marrio Mangrum
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jun 2014

were able to get recordings of their monstrous boss who is in such a position of power over them. Shine some like on this racist from hell.

Seems like his name is being withheld for whatever reason.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
45. Such
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:06 AM
Jun 2014

egregious hate. Unless I read about this happening, I'd have a hard time believing it. (I guess I'm too optimistic that people aren't hatefilled shitbags.)

Obviously this supervisor needs to be fired and sued himself. The company should settle. For LOTS of money.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
47. The supervisor's
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

own words prove he's an idiot. 'Back then' (Jim Crow days) nobody thought anything about it? If that were true, nothing would have ever changed! A lot of people fought and died to change that monstrous injustice. Truly sad that we still need to fight against these racist jackasses. Also sad that we have a supremely dysfunctional court under Roberts pretending that these morons don't exist. Makes the fight that much harder.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
48. Soon That Supervisor......
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 06:07 AM
Jun 2014

Will be lamenting the days he had a job and the company lamenting they ever hired him.

TBF

(32,056 posts)
49. Have they fired that supervisor yet?
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jun 2014

That "vacation" of his better be permanent.

Also I believe FAUX news should be called on the carpet here. Along with certain radio talk show hosts they have created such a hostile environment in this country. Not that the racism wasn't just under the seams, because it always has been in this young country, but they have really fanned the flames the past few years and made this type of behavior acceptable in some circles. It's ridiculous.

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