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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:28 AM Jun 2014

San Mateo County Sheriff's Deputy Kills 18-Year-Old Female in Half Moon Bay

Last edited Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:36 PM - Edit history (1)



An 18-year-old woman was killed after a confrontation with San Mateo County sheriff's deputies that escalated into an officer-involved shooting.

Deputy Rebecca Rosenblatt said deputies responded to the Moonridge Housing Complex, located at Miramontes Point Road near Highway 1 by Half Moon Bay about 9:20 p.m. Tuesday.

The initial report was of a violent female subject who was thought to be armed.

Rosenblatt said there was a confrontation with the woman, and the deputy discharged his weapon because he feared for his life.

Deputies have not said what type of weapon the young woman had. She was declared dead at the scene. "

However, her brother, who only identified himself as "Lorenzo," said that his sister has special needs, may have been off her medication and likely had a knife. He identified his sister as
Yanira Serrano.


"We want answers," Lorenzo said. "Why didn't they use a Taser? We just want to know what really happened."

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/San-Mateo-County-Sheriff-Kills-Teen-in-Half-Moon-Bay-261816771.html
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San Mateo County Sheriff's Deputy Kills 18-Year-Old Female in Half Moon Bay (Original Post) damnedifIknow Jun 2014 OP
How To Talk Like A Pig & Eat Doughnuts At Same Time SoCalMusicLover Jun 2014 #1
WE need more details about this to judge, but in general we live in a police state randys1 Jun 2014 #2
A little more info damnedifIknow Jun 2014 #3
Reminds me of Rachel's reporting that FBI has shot 160 people and not one time did randys1 Jun 2014 #4
Unless she had a gun, a taser would avebury Jun 2014 #5
Sounds like the cop administered 9mm of medication. bluesbassman Jun 2014 #6
No police officer is going to get within knife range of a person Lurks Often Jun 2014 #7
Well okay but damnedifIknow Jun 2014 #8
I think you need to re-read my post Lurks Often Jun 2014 #9
If she was close enough to be a threat with a knife, that cop already had his gun out... bluesbassman Jun 2014 #10
Absent more details, it comes down to the police officers not wanting to get stabbed. Lurks Often Jun 2014 #11
The Policeman Is Innocent SoCalMusicLover Jun 2014 #12
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
1. How To Talk Like A Pig & Eat Doughnuts At Same Time
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jun 2014

"I Feared For My Life.....so I shot to Kill, the Dog/Person"

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. WE need more details about this to judge, but in general we live in a police state
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:57 AM
Jun 2014

The police state is meant to control lower middle class and poor so the 2% can feel safe and happy.

The police actually exist to protect the 2% from the rest of us...

Sure, lots of person-hours are spent in neighborhoods where there are no rich people, but the overall job is to make sure the violence that is inherent with poverty doesnt spread out to the rich and powerful.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
3. A little more info
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jun 2014

The woman was identified by relatives as Yanira Serrano. Serrano had special needs and was armed with a knife during the confrontation, relatives told reporters, but they had hoped she would receive medical help because she was off her medication."

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Woman-18-shot-dead-by-San-Mateo-sheriff-s-deputy-5527706.php

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Reminds me of Rachel's reporting that FBI has shot 160 people and not one time did
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

they find a wrongful shooting....

Of course many of them were, common sense dictates.

We are in the police state I mentioned, I wonder if this was a Woman of color, that would of course increase her chances of being shot long before a white person would.

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
6. Sounds like the cop administered 9mm of medication.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jun 2014

I just don't get this. The cop wasn't alone, the article says "deputies responded", she had a knife. So two or more deputies with tazers, nightsticks, and hand to hand combat training are "afraid for their lives" from a small 18 year old girl with a knife?!

Truly disgusting.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
7. No police officer is going to get within knife range of a person
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill which established the distance. That rules out baton, chemical spray and bare hands. The maximum effective range of a taser appears to be 35 feet.

Certainly this is an unfortunate tragedy and details are sparse, if the shooting incident occurred inside, she was probably closer then 21 foot threshold that is referenced in my link above.

Some other relevant facts: The kevlar most bullet proof vests are made of do not stop knives, especially stabbing and most police departments issue retention holsters designed to prevent people from grabbing an officers gun, the downside to a retention holster is that it also increases the time it takes a police officer to draw his weapon.

I've gone through military police training and use of force training, so my comments are based on that.

damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
8. Well okay but
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:36 PM
Jun 2014

If she was out of range of a taser and pepper spray then why did the officer feel threatened? Was she some sort of Nolan Ryan like knife throwing expert?

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
9. I think you need to re-read my post
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jun 2014

The link I provided clearly explains the distance someone with a knife is to be considered an imminent threat.

I never said she was out of range of the taser. The link did not state whether the shooting took place inside or outside. I made the observation that if the shooting occurred inside, the officers were likely inside the distance a knife is considered a threat.

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
10. If she was close enough to be a threat with a knife, that cop already had his gun out...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:23 PM
Jun 2014

Granted, we don't have all the details, but I'm still at a loss as to how more than one deputy on the scene where not able to subdue this 18 year old girl without using deadly force.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
11. Absent more details, it comes down to the police officers not wanting to get stabbed.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jun 2014

And again absent more details, this is probably going to be ruled a justifiable shooting.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
12. The Policeman Is Innocent
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

End of story. There will be the expected "investigation," while he's out eating doughnuts on paid leave, but this is a mere formality.

He would be within his rights to shoot her even if she had no weapon. The fact she had a knife, even if it was a plastic picnic knife, is enough justification for him to put multiple bullets in her. He was merely being nice to her family by not making her a bloody mess, and giving the embalmer more work.

<sarcasm>

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