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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:20 PM Jun 2014

Jonathan Turley goes on Fox Newz...blasts Obama for the Bergdahl deal and compares him to Nixon

Law Professor: Obama’s the President Nixon Always Wanted to Be
by Josh Feldman | 11:05 pm, June 3rd, 2014

Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley may agree with President Obama on some issues, but as he made clear to Sean Hannity Tuesday night, he is going over-the-top in abusing his executive power and throttling the very idea of governmental checks and balances.

He said that in the Bowe Burgdahl case and others, the president has shown that he just “would not comply with federal law.” Turley noted how this is dangerously becoming an “imperial presidency, an über-presidency… where the president can act unilaterally.” And, to Turley, Obama just won’t comply with some of the limits on his authority.

In fact, Turley thinks that Obama’s abuse of power is so serious, he said that Obama is “the president Richard Nixon always wanted to be.” Oof.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/law-professor-obamas-the-president-nixon-always-wanted-to-be/

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Jonathan Turley goes on Fox Newz...blasts Obama for the Bergdahl deal and compares him to Nixon (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 OP
Back To His 'Impeach Clinton' Roots, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2014 #1
Correct sir. This is not surprising. He seems to come down against the side of the President on stevenleser Jun 2014 #21
snip* in his testimony at a House Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday, Turley said Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #29
My, my, they seem to have forgotten where the doctrine of the "unitary President" came from. kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #37
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #38
When you're dancing Turbineguy Jun 2014 #2
Jonathan Turley is the Cliff Van Zandt of Constitutional law blogslut Jun 2014 #3
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!! madinmaryland Jun 2014 #22
Damn, Ma'am --- That is Harsh The Magistrate Jun 2014 #23
Turley regularly provides friendly testimony to Issa et al. geek tragedy Jun 2014 #4
Fuck Turley, he must be off his meds. nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #5
Funny that this douchebag disappeared for the entire Bush administration tularetom Jun 2014 #6
That is not even remotely accurate. Turley spoke out clearly against torture during the Bush Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #7
He loses credibility as a staunch constitutional defender when he appears on the Sean Hannity show tularetom Jun 2014 #8
Turley does not fit in any one box..never did. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #9
Oh..Turley fits in a neat box....he wanted Clinton impeached for a blowjob and waited 'til it was msanthrope Jun 2014 #11
No. Not accurate at all. If he was he would not have gone after Bush. His record of positions are Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #13
He went after Bush when it was cool to do so...not before. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #14
What are you going on about..when it was cool? Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #15
Right..it took him 'til 2003 because in 2000, he was blaming Gore's loss on Clinton's blowjobs. msanthrope Jun 2014 #16
Silly argument. Turley has positions on the Constitution and they have never been about Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #18
Wait. You just said he was a partisan. Now he's a "mercenary?" DirkGently Jun 2014 #26
When it was pointed out to me that he criticized Bush on Olbermann's show tularetom Jun 2014 #40
Came here to say this, but you beat me to it. n/t scruboak Jun 2014 #10
He also pimped the "dumb Latina" meme geek tragedy Jun 2014 #17
My responses are not about having an affection for Turley..sheesh. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #19
He is Chicken Little. geek tragedy Jun 2014 #20
He has his opinions, torturing people under the Bush regime for which he spoke out Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #24
Broken clock was right that time. nt geek tragedy Jun 2014 #28
No Chicken Little..disagreements, yes. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #30
By that logic House Republicans geek tragedy Jun 2014 #36
I will leave you to mischaracterize Turley at your pleasure. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #41
Thanks for the example of Turley's libertarian hackishness. geek tragedy Jun 2014 #42
Like I said from the beginning, his opinions vary..he has always pissed off both sides. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #43
no, but only libertarians will whine when he attempts to implement geek tragedy Jun 2014 #44
When he voted for Obama. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #45
You know who else is a Constitutional law professor? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #12
Every time I ever heard Jonathan Turley opine about anything constitutional... MohRokTah Jun 2014 #25
Except that he was dead right about Bush, you mean. DirkGently Jun 2014 #31
Exactly. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #33
I never heard him opine about Bush. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #39
Missed it by three presidents. AtheistCrusader Jun 2014 #27
He was frequently on Olbermann's show. madamesilverspurs Jun 2014 #32
Yes, and not fueling conspiracy: Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #35
"it is a clear abuse of power to use such statements as a license to evade laws that the president PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #34

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. Back To His 'Impeach Clinton' Roots, Sir
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jun 2014

Cheerleading Gingrich's attempted coup was brought him to the public notice, and he has never really left it behind, let alone lived it down....

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
21. Correct sir. This is not surprising. He seems to come down against the side of the President on
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:53 PM
Jun 2014

every issue. That does not sound like someone who is impartially applying the law to given situations.

The President hasn't been right about everything, but he certainly hasn't been wrong about everything either.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
29. snip* in his testimony at a House Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday, Turley said
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jun 2014

this shift did not begin with President Obama, but that “it has accelerated at an alarming rate under this administration.” Turley emphasized that he does not view the president as a dictator, but he does think the problem is urgent.

The following is an excerpt of his prepared remarks:

As someone who voted for President Obama and agrees with many of his policies, it is often hard to separate the ends from the means of presidential action. Indeed, despite decades of thinking and writing about the separation of powers, I have had momentary lapses where I privately rejoiced in seeing actions on goals that I share, even though they were done in the circumvention of Congress. For example, when President Obama unilaterally acted on greenhouse gas pollutants, I was initially relieved. I agree entirely with the priority that he has given this issue. However, it takes an act of willful blindness to ignore that the greenhouse regulations were implemented only after Congress rejected such measures and that a new sweeping regulatory scheme is now being promulgated solely upon the authority of the President. We are often so committed to a course of action that we conveniently dismiss the means as a minor issue in light of the goals of the Administration. Many have embraced the notion that all is fair in love and politics. However, as I have said too many times before Congress, in our system it is often more important how we do something than what we do. Priorities and policies (and presidents) change. What cannot change is the system upon which we all depend for our rights and representation.

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/02/27/power-presidency-turley

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
37. My, my, they seem to have forgotten where the doctrine of the "unitary President" came from.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jun 2014

It was ok when it was Bush...the other deserter.

Turbineguy

(37,322 posts)
2. When you're dancing
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jun 2014

in the republican tittie-bar you gotta jump up on the table and rip off all your clothes and set yourself on fire to be noticed at all.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
6. Funny that this douchebag disappeared for the entire Bush administration
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:37 PM
Jun 2014

Ignoring all it's constitutional lapses and outright nose thumbing.

But now that a Democrat is back in the Oval Office he's suddenly gone all constitutional law professor on us and he's making the rounds to keep us informed of the evil deeds of yet another Democratic miscreant.

Oh, well, I guess he'd never get his check from Fox if he didn't talk a lot of negative shit on Obama.

Just another media whore.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. That is not even remotely accurate. Turley spoke out clearly against torture during the Bush
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:52 PM
Jun 2014

Regime. He has some positions I don't agree with, some of which I find flat out bizarre, and he also
has many I agree with.

Just a snapshot: snip*Politics

Professor Turley is widely regarded as a champion of the rule of law, and his stated positions in many cases and his self-proclaimed "socially liberal agenda",[8] have led liberal and progressive thinkers to also consider him a champion for their causes, especially on issues such as separation of church and state, environmental law,[10][16] civil rights,[7][17] and the illegality of torture.[18][19][20] Politico has referred to Turley as a "liberal law professor and longtime civil libertarian".[21] Turley has nevertheless exhibited his disagreement with rigid ideological stances in contradiction to the established law with other stated and published opinions.[10][21]

In numerous appearances on Countdown with Keith Olbermann and The Rachel Maddow Show, he has called for criminal prosecution of Bush administration officials for war crimes, including torture.[22]

In USA Today in October 2004, he famously argued for the legalization of polygamy,[23] provoking responses from writers such as Stanley Kurtz.[24][25]

Commenting on the Military Commissions Act of 2006, which, he contends, does away with habeas corpus, Turley says, "It’s something that no one thought—certainly I didn’t think—was possible in the United States. And I am not too sure how we got to this point. But people clearly don’t realize what a fundamental change it is about who we are as a country. What happened today changed us."[20]

He is a critic of special treatment for the church in law, asking why there are laws that "expressly exempt faith-based actions that result in harm".[26]

Turley disagrees with the theory that dealing with bullies is just a part of growing up, claiming that they are "no more a natural part of learning than is parental abuse a natural part of growing up" and believes that "litigation could succeed in forcing schools to take bullying more seriously".[27]

He has written extensively about the injustice of the death penalty noting that, "Human error remains a principal cause of botched executions" and opining that "eventually society will be forced to deal directly with a fundamental moral question: Has death itself become the intolerable element of the death penalty?"[28]

He worries that the Supreme Court is injecting itself into partisan politics.[29] He has frequently expressed the view that recent nominees to the court hold extreme views.[30][31]

However, Turley has a strong libertarian streak and sometimes infuriates the left with a contrarian position.[10] For instance, he has said, “It is hard to read the Second Amendment and not honestly conclude that the Framers intended gun ownership to be an individual right.”[8] Moreover, Turley testified in favor of the Clinton impeachment.[32]

In another commentary that outraged progressives, Turley defended Judge Henry E. Hudson's ruling declaring the individual mandate unconstitutional for violating the Commerce Clause of the Constitution, saying: "It’s very thoughtful — not a screed. I don’t see any evidence this is motivated by Judge Hudson’s personal beliefs...Anybody who’s dismissing this opinion as a political screed has obviously not read the opinion".[21]

Turley described Eric Holder in an Op-ed as President Barack Obama's sin-eater. "For Obama, there has been no better sin eater than Holder. When the president promised CIA employees early in his first term that they would not be investigated for torture, it was the attorney general who shielded officials from prosecution. When the Obama administration decided it would expand secret and warrantless surveillance, it was Holder who justified it. When the president wanted the authority to kill any American he deemed a threat without charge or trial, it was Holder who went public to announce the “kill list” policy. Last week, the Justice Department confirmed that it was Holder who personally approved the equally abusive search of Fox News correspondent James Rosen’s e-mail and phone records in another story involving leaked classified information. In the 2010 application for a secret warrant, the Obama administration named Rosen as “an aider and abettor and/or co-conspirator” to the leaking of classified materials. The Justice Department even investigated Rosen’s parents’ telephone number, and Holder was there to justify every attack on the news media."[33]

In a December 2013 congressional hearing, responding to a question from Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) about the danger posed by President Obama's apparent unilateral modification of laws passed by congress, Turley said, "The danger is quite severe. The problem with what the president is doing is that he's not simply posing a danger to the constitutional system. He's becoming the very danger the Constitution was designed to avoid. That is the concentration of power in every single branch. This Newtonian orbit that the three branches exist in is a delicate one but it is designed to prevent this type of concentration. There is two trends going on which should be of equal concern to all members of Congress. One is that we have had the radical expansion of presidential powers under both President Bush and President Obama. We have what many once called an imperial presidency model of largely unchecked authority. And with that trend we also have the continued rise of this fourth branch. We have agencies that are quite large that issue regulations. The Supreme Court said recently that agencies could actually define their own or interpret their own jurisdiction." [34]
Testimony before Congress

The conceptual thread running through many of the issues taken on by Turley is that they involve claims of Executive Privilege. For example, he said, "the president’s claim of executive authority based on Article II would put our system on a slippery slope."[35] He has argued against national security exceptions to fundamental constitutional rights.[30][36]

He is a frequent witness before the House and Senate on constitutional and statutory issues.[37][38] as well as tort reform legislation.[1]

Turley has testified in Congress against President Bush's warrantless domestic surveillance program and was lead counsel in a case challenging it. In regard to warrantless wiretaps he noted that, "Judge Anna Diggs Taylor chastised the government for a flagrant abuse of the Constitution and, in a direct message to the president, observed that there are no hereditary kings in America."[39]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Turley

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
8. He loses credibility as a staunch constitutional defender when he appears on the Sean Hannity show
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jun 2014

to take the president to task for constitutional misdeeds.

IMO, Obama is more than a little deserving of criticism for thumbing his nose at the 4th Amendment. But to compare his actions in the Bergdahl incident with the crimes committed by Nixon is more than a little bit of a stretch.

Odd that he goes on Keith Olbermann to bad mouth Bush and then appears with Haniity to trash Obama. Makes him seem like a mercenary opportunist rather than a constitutional purist.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
9. Turley does not fit in any one box..never did.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jun 2014

I think he gets invited by anyone who wants a legal expert on their side, they know
he is not one sided..the opportunists are more related to the networks than Turley,
generally speaking.

In the end, this blow up will not be a success for the Republicans but they'll
try and waste enough time on it.



 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. Oh..Turley fits in a neat box....he wanted Clinton impeached for a blowjob and waited 'til it was
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:54 PM
Jun 2014

safe to critique Bush. He's still sore over getting his ass smacked by Reggie Walton in Kucinich v Obama...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=107135

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
13. No. Not accurate at all. If he was he would not have gone after Bush. His record of positions are
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:00 PM
Jun 2014

varied, there has been no secret about that, ever.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
15. What are you going on about..when it was cool?
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:08 PM
Jun 2014

He wrote about Bush as early as 2003. Who decided it was cool? He has no history
of taking one side on a variety of positions.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
16. Right..it took him 'til 2003 because in 2000, he was blaming Gore's loss on Clinton's blowjobs.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jun 2014

Turley is an opportunist.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
18. Silly argument. Turley has positions on the Constitution and they have never been about
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jun 2014

one political side and they certainly have not been about opportunity for self gain.
He has been quite vocal about them.


Disagreements are one thing, what you suggest is unsupportable.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
26. Wait. You just said he was a partisan. Now he's a "mercenary?"
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jun 2014

So, what then? His only reasonable course of action is to speak out only against Republicans?

I don't always agree with Turley either, but you're just blindly slashing at the guy.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
40. When it was pointed out to me that he criticized Bush on Olbermann's show
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jun 2014

I realized that he was not in fact a partisan, but rather the type of whore who tells each side what they want to hear. Notice that he didn't appear on Hanity's program and talk shit about Bush. If he were indeed an objective observer whose only interest was the integrity of the constitution he would have had the cojones to tell that to the nutcase fox viewers.

Similarly, when he wants to trash a Democratic administration, he doesn't go on any MSNBC program and do it. No, he goes running to fox where he knows he'll get paid handsomely for talking shit about Obama.

Unfortunately the always-on news networks have created a goldmine for the for hire pundits willing to tell both sides what they want to hear.

You can defend Turdley all you want, but I don't believe he really stands for anything except getting wealthier by selling his opinions to cable news stations wrapped in a scholarly sounding spiel.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. He also pimped the "dumb Latina" meme
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jun 2014

against Sotomayo and generally rubber stamps whatever House Republicans say about Obama's supposed imperial tendencies (Turley thinks Obama is obligated to keep deporting DREAMers, for example).

And he soiled himself about the NDAA in 2011 despite not having read it. Because Obama is a scary dictator, etc.

So, screw him

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
19. My responses are not about having an affection for Turley..sheesh.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:31 PM
Jun 2014

He is a professor, he has a trained opinion, agree or disagree with him, I have.

But he was out in front about Bush and torture and executive privilege..that was
what the other poster and myself were discussing.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. He is Chicken Little.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 05:49 PM
Jun 2014

Every presidential action in his mind is cause for pants-wetting. Thus, Obama failing to deport dreamers or not defending DOMA or signing an NDAA that explicitly avoided the detention of citizens issue become just as scary, and met with the same level of rhetoric, as Bush's torturing people.

It's his schtick. Everything from blowjobs to torture to not endorsing homophobic discrinination--all of it is the death of the republic.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
24. He has his opinions, torturing people under the Bush regime for which he spoke out
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:03 PM
Jun 2014

forcefully against does not constitute an equivalent to Chicken Little.

You can appreciate that about him or not.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
36. By that logic House Republicans
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jun 2014

are not bigoted asshats, they merely disagree with liberals.

Reminder: this libertarian prick assailed Sotomayor for lacking "intellectual depth" and claimed she did not have "a profound understanding of the law."

Thus echoing his royal prick of a colleague at GW, Jeffery Rosen.

And produces shrieking hyperbole about Obama on a monthly basis, in the past comparing him to kings and dictators, and saying his 'power grabs' have brought the usa to a "tipping point" and repeatedly bleating about how dangerous Obama is.


Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
41. I will leave you to mischaracterize Turley at your pleasure.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:16 PM
Jun 2014

His record for voting for Obama as well as his agreements and disagreements on executive
privilege and the like, are all on the record. His record of admonishing Bush is also part
of that record. Turley never fit in any one mindset...that is the point.

The following is an excerpt of his prepared remarks:

As someone who voted for President Obama and agrees with many of his policies, it is often hard to separate the ends from the means of presidential action. Indeed, despite decades of thinking and writing about the separation of powers, I have had momentary lapses where I privately rejoiced in seeing actions on goals that I share, even though they were done in the circumvention of Congress. For example, when President Obama unilaterally acted on greenhouse gas pollutants, I was initially relieved. I agree entirely with the priority that he has given this issue. However, it takes an act of willful blindness to ignore that the greenhouse regulations were implemented only after Congress rejected such measures and that a new sweeping regulatory scheme is now being promulgated solely upon the authority of the President. We are often so committed to a course of action that we conveniently dismiss the means as a minor issue in light of the goals of the Administration. Many have embraced the notion that all is fair in love and politics. However, as I have said too many times before Congress, in our system it is often more important how we do something than what we do. Priorities and policies (and presidents) change. What cannot change is the system upon which we all depend for our rights and representation.

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/02/27/power-presidency-turley

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
42. Thanks for the example of Turley's libertarian hackishness.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:31 PM
Jun 2014

Turley:

However, it takes an act of willful blindness to ignore that the greenhouse regulations were implemented only after Congress rejected such measures and that a new sweeping regulatory scheme is now being promulgated solely upon the authority of the President.


Turley is spouting CATO/Koch brothers nonsense, and taking the Bush administration position on this. The EPA has an affirmative obligation to promulgate such regulations under the Clean Air Act. That is where the authority comes from--a delegation from Congres, recognized and upheld by the judicial branch. The authority to do so has been repeatedly upheld by the Roberts court.

Such measures had been in the works for years.

http://www.epa.gov/oms/climate/documents/420f11031.pdf

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2011-09-15/pdf/2011-20740.pdf

Turley is a libertarian concern troll.

I'm sure Scalito and Thomas will adopt his spin on this, however.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
43. Like I said from the beginning, his opinions vary..he has always pissed off both sides.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:38 PM
Jun 2014

If you imagine only libertarians will take this administration to task on executive
privilege you may need tranquilizers to get through the reading.

Have a good night.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
44. no, but only libertarians will whine when he attempts to implement
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jun 2014

the Clean Air Act.

When's the last time Turley pissed conservatives off, 2007?

Since 2009, he's been pretty much holding hands with Rand Paul and Darrel Issa.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
45. When he voted for Obama.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 07:52 PM
Jun 2014

I recognize him as a principled man who has his opinions and I don't always agree and I
don't need to to see the distinctions.

I don't see his positions aimed to condemn Obama for the sake of doing so with some
deviant premise attached. His political leanings are not ones you can pigeon hole.




 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
25. Every time I ever heard Jonathan Turley opine about anything constitutional...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jun 2014

the courts have always gone the other way.

He's like the Bill Kristol of legal analysis.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
31. Except that he was dead right about Bush, you mean.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jun 2014

It's not that complicated. As noted higher in the thread, Turley is suspicious of Executive power. I don't always agree with his interpretations either, but he does seem fairly consistent, and he was one of the few willing to call out the Bush Doctrine for what it was.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
39. I never heard him opine about Bush.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jun 2014

I didn't watch television news while Bush was president because i tired of the cheerleading in early 2001.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
32. He was frequently on Olbermann's show.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jun 2014

One night, after Keith, I flipped over to the History Channel and there was Turley, on a show about Area 51.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
35. Yes, and not fueling conspiracy:
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:24 PM
Jun 2014

Below is my column today in the Los Angeles Times. The column follows the recognition of the name for Area 51, which produced a great deal of media coverage.

Last week, the U.S. government declassified a report about a secret facility in Nevada. Such declassifications are nothing new but, from the report’s 400 pages, two words immediately jumped out: Area 51. The government had finally acknowledged the name of a controversial base in the desert north of Las Vegas where it conducted top-secret research.

The document’s release will do little to quash the glut of Area 51 conspiracy theories about recovered alien spaceships and government cover-ups. But the real cover-up there has nothing to do with UFOs. Area 51 was more than a national security site; it was also an alleged crime scene, and at least two good men may have died from what occurred there. They were not hurt by aliens but by their own government, which refused to declassify information they needed to understand what had happened to them.

During the 1990s, I represented Area 51 workers in two lawsuits. The suits, which forced the first official recognition of the base — though not its name — were the first against a “black facility,” one whose very existence is denied by the government. Over the course of the litigation, the contents of my office were classified, I was threatened with arrest, workers and their families were threatened with prosecution and we had to go as far as Moscow to find images to prove the existence of the base.

http://jonathanturley.org/2013/08/21/the-truth-is-out-there-the-real-cover-up-at-area-51/

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
34. "it is a clear abuse of power to use such statements as a license to evade laws that the president
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jun 2014

does not like or as an end-run around provisions designed to foster accountability."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/





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