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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDr Pepper 10 - wtf? "It's not for women."
I've heard their commercials several times now, and every time I get more and more disgusted.
What the hell is this?
I understand that they are trying to expand their customer base and cater to men who don't think diet soft drinks are macho - or whatever
But I cannot recall any soft drink or beer or wine or any beverage commercial that proclaimed "It's not for men".
Because I am a woman, am I not supposed to try it?
Seriously - wtf!?!
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/story/2011-10-10/dr-pepper-for-men/50717788/1
mdmc
(29,075 posts)reverse psychology..
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I hate those ads. I know they're supposed to be funny, or ironic, or reverse psychology or old school or something. But I just think they suck. And I'm a dude.
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)ok, so type 2 diabetes is better than, you know, appearing gay.
couldn't they just make a commercial that appealed to men, but without demeaning women?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)And a double fuck-you to Dr. Pepper because as a man I love diet drinks.
And a triple-fuck-you to them because they dared to try to define for me what it means to be a man.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)handmade34
(22,758 posts)and environment would be better off abolishing all "soft drinks"
don't buy into the propaganda
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)It still get that fun fizz, but with no additives, sugar, fake sugar, etc.
I started carrying the soda-sized bottle around, requested them all Wal-greens so I didn't have to go to Kroger's every time I wanted one and now the Wal-Greens carries them and they're usually running low! I hope I started a healthier trend.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Or better yet... FIJI!
Yes, let's drown the coastal dwellers of polynesia and sink Kiribati underwater by burning gobs of fossil fuels to transport water to your local corner store!
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Some people don't want any one else to have any fun.
Seriously? That's all you have?
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)it's cheaper.
FSogol
(45,529 posts)it's cheaper.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)You brought it up... your link... you know... to something that actually works and doesn't taste like crap.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)also...1.5 million other links:
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=diy+mineral+water
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I'll share in whatever verbal roasting you have in store.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)For someone with a "Fawke em" name, our radical obviously is not familiar with the bottled water issue.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)None of us can be.
What is ironic is that I live next to former seltzer water... a former spa that was one of FDR's favorite and, yet, I'm not offered local seltzer water.
That might be the problem.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)http://www.treehugger.com/clean-technology/pablo-calculates-the-true-cost-of-bottled-water.html
Over at Triple Pundit, Sustainability Engineer and MBA Pablo Päster has done a thorough and exhaustive study of the cost of bring a litre of Fiji Water to America. He starts with the production of the bottle in China, taking the bottle blanks to Fiji, and confirming that it takes more water to make the bottle than it actually holds. He then transports the bottle to the States by ship. Not even including the distribution in the States, the numbers are absolutely staggering.
In summary, the manufacture and transport of that one kilogram bottle of Fiji water consumed 26.88 kilograms of water (7.1 gallons) .849 Kilograms of fossil fuel (one litre or .26 gal) and emitted 562 grams of Greenhouse Gases (1.2 pounds).
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)not to mention, carbonated and seltzer drinks give gas, make you fart and/or belch. Yuck.
Just don't drink bottled drinks. Waste, waste, waste of earth's resources. And polluting, polluting, polluting.
And it steals water from the local people, who need it to live.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I don't drink that.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Which, unlike water from France, is easier to get to the west coast of the US. Also, they use plastic bottles, unlike the more energy intensive glass ones used for Perrier (and, no, they are not shipping the empties back to France).
Water flows downhill all by itself under the influence of gravity. It does not do so in a manner which gets it from a spring in France to the shelf at Walgreens.
Now, notice the word "environment" in the post to which you were responding.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Is it sparkling and what do I try and ask for?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Are you taking medication?
FIJI! IT'S WATER! FROM FIJI!
Hello? Is this thing on?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)You DO understand that I've never seen that before in my life, right?
When you say, "Fiji," I think of the place, not a product?
You really must realize what is available to you may or may not be to me and/or, if it is, it may not be advertized in a manner that I would know what it is.
On edit: I still don't know if it's sparkling. If it's just mineral water, I'll stick with my carbonized tapped and Perrier. The sparkling is the sale.
On edit 2: Husband just said it's NOT sparkling water - it's just regular spring water. I live in an area with plenty of spring water. I drink that, too. My whole point is that I drink sparkling water to get over the soda fix. I already drink clean, plain water, too.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do you know where Perrier comes from, and who owns it?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)either Coke or Pepsi owns it.
I realize it's corporate, but isn't that the problem? Some of us want things like this that don't have a local equivalent.
I probably raise and/or buy tons of fresh veg in the spring and summer and fall locally that off-sets my Perrier habit.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...what do they mean to you?
And, no, Perrier is owned by Nestlé. You know, those folks who provided free baby formula to third world mothers and convinced them that bottle feeding was "modern and healthy" regardless of whether those women had access to adequate water supplies to mix formula, with predictable results.
So I guess what I'm experiencing here is more accurately described as cognitive dissonance.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)so I didn't worry about where my baby's milk came from. I KNEW. I CREATED IT. For both of 'em. Their first fruits and veg were from our garden, woo.
My user name is from a movie. The real Guy Fawkes was guarding a gun powder pit. I created the name because I work in IT security and, yet still love Anonymous.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)and the environment is giving people a little cognitive dissonance.
Also, your apparent ignorance of unbelievably common brands of bottled drinking water.
Mosby
(16,360 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)I drink flavored seltzer. Same but without the sugar and other garbage in soda.
Gibby
(96 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Is that your kid? Adorable!
jillan
(39,451 posts)told her is to stop drinking soda. He said there is so much crap in there that the body doesn't know how to absorb because it's not natural.
And it really helped. Now she drinks 1/2 water 1/2 juice instead - with a soda every now and then.
Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)I know that might sound insulting but I personally am strongly opposed to banning any sort of foodstuff or beverage, people have the ability and right to chose what they consume.
handmade34
(22,758 posts)I believe in choice, but I am more than familiar with the power of marketing and propaganda by multi-million $$ corporations... and we have a very uneducated and gullible population of people that want to fit in. Using the "nanny state" argument is misleading and disingenuous.
I see the soft drink issue as a me against big money/power interests and I sure as hell am going to educate myself as best I can about the issue. Soft drinks waste millions of pounds of plastic, glass and aluminum every year, soft drinks have little or (mostly) no nutritional value, poor people spend an inordinate percentage of their money on soft drinks, compared to wealthier people and soft drinks contribute significantly to tooth decay, obesity and general malnutrition.
I believe people have the right to consume what they want but this is bigger than that...
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The response was rude, but I'd really like to know an alternative to Perrier (I recycle the bottle, btw)
1620rock
(2,218 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)No sweetener but still a flavored soda, just not cloying.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)If only I could regulate what they drink outside of the house.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I think it has been slowly killing me. I went cold turkey from soda 3 weeks ago.
handmade34
(22,758 posts)that stuff WILL kill you
and the millions of plastic and aluminum cans is contributing to the degradation of the environment
wickerwoman
(5,662 posts)I lost forty pounds just by cutting out all soda. Even the diet stuff with no calories triggered massive hunger pains and junk food cravings for me.
Haven't had a soda in five years and don't even miss it. I find it really shocking in the grocery store how much money people pretty much literally piss away on something with no nutritive value that screws up their teeth, gives them headaches, and just makes them hungrier than when they started.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)No creativity to them at all. They just sucked - not funny in the least bit. One of the worst ad campaigns I've ever seen, in fact.
Initech
(100,104 posts)Like the ones from Slim Jims, Axe Body Spray, Miller Lite, and about 100 others I can't think of - but it doesn't get the message out very well.
Lucky Luciano
(11,260 posts)Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)onenote
(42,768 posts)"Strong enough for a man. Made for a woman."
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Guess your ad worked.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)http://adage.com/article/news/dr-pepper-10-avoid-marketing-missteps-pepsi-coke/148983/
And to that, I only have this to say:
Warpy
(111,352 posts)I haven't liked the stuff since I was ten, it tastes too much like over the counter cough syrup.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Dr. Pepper is my favorite soda.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)But since I don't drink it anyway, I just email this commercial around to others to encourage them to boycott it.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)go figure...
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Exactly right.
kudzu22
(1,273 posts)It's mostly just liquor and guessing -- Dilbert
Archae
(46,350 posts)We're talking about it, and that gets people to buy Dr Pepper.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)The usual suspects haven't even bothered with the "it's different" argument this time around.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)for a woman's different "ph". I don't know whether it's true or not.
The Dr. Pepper ad doesn't seem to claim that Dr. Pepper is
formulated for men's different tastebuds or something...
It's just sexist for its own sake.
jp11
(2,104 posts)Then there are all those ads that start out with voice overs talking to women about this or that as if a man couldn't ever be using that product.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)now you'll try it or talk about it or write a rant on an internet message board.
It's still just gross chemicals put in a BPA lined can. Ignore it.
Ecumenist
(6,086 posts)does it contain? Liquified testicles? I wonder who's bright idea that was?
Dorian Gray
(13,501 posts)ad I can think of was for Secret: "It's strong enough for a man, but made for a woman."
Um... not quite the same, is it?
FSogol
(45,529 posts)belcffub
(595 posts)and as an advertising ploy it's working... the OP proves it...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)and action movies.
PavePusher
(15,374 posts)KG
(28,753 posts)FSogol
(45,529 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and those north African women think they have it bad with their genital mutilation. Wait until they see the horrors bourgeoisie western women face in the form of oppressive Dr. Pepper ads. Hey I know what we'll do, ladies. Lets buy a bunch of it a drink it just to show 'em. I bet they never anticipated that in a million years. Has Cracked magazine weighed in?
jillan
(39,451 posts)it to genital mutilation.
baffled.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)And yes people's outrage at this satyrical advert brings the spoiled nature of western bourgeoisie culture into stark focus.
jillan
(39,451 posts)just because that opinion is on something minor?
Expressing ones opinion in the confines on an online discussion group is not a "spoiled nature of western bourgeoisie culture."
It is just expressing an opinion to an online discussion group. It is not a statement of society - it is just one person's opinion on a minor issue, one advertising campaign. It has nothing to do with injustices here at home or around the world. Period. Nothing more. Nothing less.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Yourself and so shall I.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)So my guess is that doctor pepper 10 is for male menstrual periods, whatever those are, or the worst ad campaign since ExtenZe.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)i think the current crop of 20 somethings in the agency world aren't very talented.
you can tell which commercials were driven by younger creative types. they are the ones that are mean-spirited, snarky, and just silly for the sake of being silly. but not in a good way.
in other words, they suck.
that is all.
XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)But I agree- most ads are stupid.
Now they are running something for the ladies a la Red Bull. A young woman chases two muggers on a moped who stole her friend's purse.
librechik
(30,676 posts)still, the humor is so deadpan, I'm sure most folks miss it. I bet they're not selling more DP because of it...
frylock
(34,825 posts)Response to jillan (Original post)
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JonLP24
(29,322 posts)The guy says, "catchphrase" right before they reveal that.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)n/t
quinnox
(20,600 posts)There is nothing wrong with doing that. Why do you think action movies have so many explosions and crap in their trailers, they are going after the men, because we like that shit.
Same with romantic comedies and their appeal to the women and hence, the trailers are totally different. Its nothing new. Many products are targeted to either men or women.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)"Just for Men" hair color hit the market.
Won't someone save us??!
rustydog
(9,186 posts)It is a commercial.
flvegan
(64,416 posts)Women are too smart to drink this concoction, or just shouldn't considering.
Ingredients
CARBONATED WATER, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, CARAMEL COLOR, PHOSPHORIC ACID, ASPARTAME, SODIUM BENZOATE, CAFFEINE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVORS, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, SODIUM PHOSPHATE
And that's quoted from their website.
Obviously, they're trying to kill men. And boys. ORRRRRR, they're trying through commercialized psych-ops to get women to drink it to do damage to them. (Tell them they can't drink it, they'll drink twice as much.)
We CAN get crazy on this. Or just see it as stupid marketing by idiots.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)How can British women tolerate this kind of outrageous sexism?
Rex
(65,616 posts)in a certain demographic.